Amiga you are still here! Glad you're back

Peepull can drive cars jussed as bad as AI driverz

Cheers House. Just letting the younger generation take over the gaming. Mattyp has stepped up and doing a great job

Is there a domestic market for driverless cars or do you thinknits gonna be more aimed at the logistics like trucking?
Theres a lot of peoples livelihoods reliant of driving.

Ultimately it will mean people no longer drive. Automation will make things far safer, and insurance and legislation will means automation takes over.

Progress has always cost jobs, and that won't change. Robotics and Ai will mean the the way we look at work will change forever.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Is there a domestic market for driverless cars or do you thinknits gonna be more aimed at the logistics like trucking?
Theres a lot of peoples livelihoods reliant of driving.
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Honestly within probably a couple of decades people rightfully so won't be allowed to drive on public roads (or insurance so high/testing will be so hard it will basically be impossible) and it will be all AI - which will massively reduce accidents and traffic. The only question will be who owns the cars.

Good to see you back Amiga. Thought we'd lost you.
If you don't remember me, I'm old Greg, the dude who recommended Life is Strange all those years ago.

Amiga

Life is Strange. A surprisingly enjoyable game. Good call on that old Greg.

Admin nice to know you missed me. Now give me an EV page.

comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 6 minutes ago
Life is Strange. A surprisingly enjoyable game. Good call on that old Greg.

Admin nice to know you missed me. Now give me an EV page.
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I need to work out how to add sections to the site. It's been so long. Last time I tried to do it I backed out as dint want to break stuff.

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Is there a domestic market for driverless cars or do you thinknits gonna be more aimed at the logistics like trucking?
Theres a lot of peoples livelihoods reliant of driving.
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Honestly within probably a couple of decades people rightfully so won't be allowed to drive on public roads (or insurance so high/testing will be so hard it will basically be impossible) and it will be all AI - which will massively reduce accidents and traffic. The only question will be who owns the cars.
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In America, people think their freedom is under threat if somebody wears a face mask within a 100-yard radius, and they believe QR codes are a form of digital tyranny.

I can't see them being too happy about having their cars and their right to drive taken from them by AI, even if it's at the behest of the Great Elon Musk.

comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Is there a domestic market for driverless cars or do you thinknits gonna be more aimed at the logistics like trucking?
Theres a lot of peoples livelihoods reliant of driving.
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Honestly within probably a couple of decades people rightfully so won't be allowed to drive on public roads (or insurance so high/testing will be so hard it will basically be impossible) and it will be all AI - which will massively reduce accidents and traffic. The only question will be who owns the cars.
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In America, people think their freedom is under threat if somebody wears a face mask within a 100-yard radius, and they believe QR codes are a form of digital tyranny.

I can't see them being too happy about having their cars and their right to drive taken from them by AI, even if it's at the behest of the Great Elon Musk.
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It's not Elon, it's stats. We should not be driving.....full stop. We are too dumb as a species to drive, and outside of medical stuff and war, car deaths are next on the list, and I would guess over 95% of car related deaths are avoidable if not more. But car sales are great for governments and capitalism therefore would never be banned. Cars are interesting though, one of the highest outlays for in theory so little use (apart from a small minority of jobs that require more travel). Like seriously WFH should be mandatory in all jobs where it is possible cos big cities if not already will be grinding to a halt as real estate developers try and fit in as many high rises into tiny spaces as possible and fook what it looks like in 10 years because the infrastructure isn't there, or noone is willing to pay for it - just to keep profit margins up!

In America, people think their freedom is under threat if somebody wears a face mask within a 100-yard radius, and they believe QR codes are a form of digital tyranny.

I can't see them being too happy about having their cars and their right to drive taken from them by AI, even if it's at the behest of the Great Elon Musk.

This as I said has nothing to do with Elon. It is the future. I doubt governments will simply ban people driving. It will be a slow progression. small areas where only automation is allowed, increases in insurance for those that do etc.

Remember you probably grew up driving cars. The next generation will grow up using apps and calling their rides, avoiding the expense of owning and maintaning their own.

comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 17 minutes ago
In America, people think their freedom is under threat if somebody wears a face mask within a 100-yard radius, and they believe QR codes are a form of digital tyranny.

I can't see them being too happy about having their cars and their right to drive taken from them by AI, even if it's at the behest of the Great Elon Musk.

This as I said has nothing to do with Elon. It is the future. I doubt governments will simply ban people driving. It will be a slow progression. small areas where only automation is allowed, increases in insurance for those that do etc.

Remember you probably grew up driving cars. The next generation will grow up using apps and calling their rides, avoiding the expense of owning and maintaning their own.
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That's it Amiga - and we are already seeing a decline in people taking test due to the high cost of owning a vehicle etc etc

Also we aren't taking your right to drive away, you can still own a car and have it drive you where ever you like. Or did I miss the 75th amendment that all Americans have the right to bear a steering wheel

I hope so cos Tesla drivers are quickly becoming some of the worst I've seen

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 17 minutes ago
In America, people think their freedom is under threat if somebody wears a face mask within a 100-yard radius, and they believe QR codes are a form of digital tyranny.

I can't see them being too happy about having their cars and their right to drive taken from them by AI, even if it's at the behest of the Great Elon Musk.

This as I said has nothing to do with Elon. It is the future. I doubt governments will simply ban people driving. It will be a slow progression. small areas where only automation is allowed, increases in insurance for those that do etc.

Remember you probably grew up driving cars. The next generation will grow up using apps and calling their rides, avoiding the expense of owning and maintaning their own.
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That's it Amiga - and we are already seeing a decline in people taking test due to the high cost of owning a vehicle etc etc

Also we aren't taking your right to drive away, you can still own a car and have it drive you where ever you like. Or did I miss the 75th amendment that all Americans have the right to bear a steering wheel
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Hmmm… I think this is more than a little bit naive.

It’s pretty much impossible to overstate the paranoia that many Americans have when it comes to their government. It’s the reason so many of them have guns: they believe that if they weren’t armed, the government would come to their houses and take away all their freedoms.

And that’s just America.

Look at how many people around the world still believe that Covid was a sinister global plan to take away our freedoms and usher us all towards a cashless society.

(And I don't believe the right to use cash is enshrined in the US Constitution either.)

Look at what happens in this country when a big supermarket dares to open a single cash-free store as a trial. There are calls to boycott that chain because apparently taking away our right to pay in cash (even in one store) is tantamount to locking us in digital prisons in which the government can determine what we can and cannot buy.

And the idea that people will stop driving simply because ‘we should not be driving’ is extraordinary to me.

We should not be doing lots of things. We should not be draining and damaging the planet for profit. We should not be electing liars, frauds and criminals to positions of power. Children should not risk being shot at school.

But individual freedoms are far, far, far more important than ‘should’.

There won't be a ban. It will be a gradual thing. The younger generation will grow up not owning cars, the older generation will moan about,

But automation taking over our roads is inevitable. It will save lives, it will grow the economy, and free up space. It will take time, but there will be a day people don't drive cars.

comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 17 minutes ago
In America, people think their freedom is under threat if somebody wears a face mask within a 100-yard radius, and they believe QR codes are a form of digital tyranny.

I can't see them being too happy about having their cars and their right to drive taken from them by AI, even if it's at the behest of the Great Elon Musk.

This as I said has nothing to do with Elon. It is the future. I doubt governments will simply ban people driving. It will be a slow progression. small areas where only automation is allowed, increases in insurance for those that do etc.

Remember you probably grew up driving cars. The next generation will grow up using apps and calling their rides, avoiding the expense of owning and maintaning their own.
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That's it Amiga - and we are already seeing a decline in people taking test due to the high cost of owning a vehicle etc etc

Also we aren't taking your right to drive away, you can still own a car and have it drive you where ever you like. Or did I miss the 75th amendment that all Americans have the right to bear a steering wheel
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Hmmm… I think this is more than a little bit naive.

It’s pretty much impossible to overstate the paranoia that many Americans have when it comes to their government. It’s the reason so many of them have guns: they believe that if they weren’t armed, the government would come to their houses and take away all their freedoms.

And that’s just America.

Look at how many people around the world still believe that Covid was a sinister global plan to take away our freedoms and usher us all towards a cashless society.

(And I don't believe the right to use cash is enshrined in the US Constitution either.)

Look at what happens in this country when a big supermarket dares to open a single cash-free store as a trial. There are calls to boycott that chain because apparently taking away our right to pay in cash (even in one store) is tantamount to locking us in digital prisons in which the government can determine what we can and cannot buy.

And the idea that people will stop driving simply because ‘we should not be driving’ is extraordinary to me.

We should not be doing lots of things. We should not be draining and damaging the planet for profit. We should not be electing liars, frauds and criminals to positions of power. Children should not risk being shot at school.

But individual freedoms are far, far, far more important than ‘should’.
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My dude how many massive changes have we seen over the last 120 with almost the same thing you are talking about. And in almost all of your examples you are talking about a loud minority.

Yes a few people thought COVID was sinister - the majority got jabs.

People also hated Credit Cards, now in the western world in most countries is the most common form of transaction with digital far out stripping physical again apart from a minority.

Video games/media the vocal few complain about not being able to have physical media, yet once again the majority have spoken and we are now almost completely digital.

You say naive, I say you are shortsighted and believe a vocal few have power.........they really don't, they are just loud. We have already loads of massive changes, this is no different.

Know the worst thing about EV's, theyre boring, they dont need a bonnet but all EVs have bonnets. I wish theyd show some imagination, if this is the vehicle of the future, make it look like a vehicle of the future instead of sticking batteries in what we already know.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 40 seconds ago
Know the worst thing about EV's, theyre boring, they dont need a bonnet but all EVs have bonnets. I wish theyd show some imagination, if this is the vehicle of the future, make it look like a vehicle of the future instead of sticking batteries in what we already know.

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The Cybertruck looks like a vehicle of the future and people mock and despise it

comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 13 minutes ago

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 40 seconds ago
Know the worst thing about EV's, theyre boring, they dont need a bonnet but all EVs have bonnets. I wish theyd show some imagination, if this is the vehicle of the future, make it look like a vehicle of the future instead of sticking batteries in what we already know.

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The Cybertruck looks like a vehicle of the future and people mock and despise it

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Change does not come easy. People will naturally go against what they don't understand. Eventually it becomes the norm, and everyone accepts it (for the most part) People are not arguing against EV's par se. They are arguing about the unknown.

FWIW I think the Cybertruck looks amazing – something radical and different and genuinely futuristic-looking (even if it does look like the future as imagined in the 1980s).

Just a shame that the man behind it becomes more dislikable with every passing day.

Whatever people think of Elon, He will go down in history as one of the great distruptors. He is changing the way we think about, energy, travel, rockets, ai, robotics. the list goes on.

No one is perfect, but the world will be a very different place because of him.

For the worse, I imagine

comment by T-BAD

For the worse, I imagine

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That would depend on your definition of worse. You could argue television, mobile phones, the internet have made some things worse. But there is no going back.

What Elon is doing, there will be no going back.