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posted 17 hours, 32 minutes ago

So what result did you predict before the game?

posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago

Sandy, you are ridiculous

I'll give you answers, as you seem to be ignoring them.

Play with fullbacks, we don't.

Stop playing three attackers, especially when one of them are always a passenger.

Change formation to suit the players you have available.

Play 4-3-1-2 for instance to sure up the centre of two young centre backs.

According to you, it's Liverpool, they are great, so we shouldn't try and noone should be upset when we get ripped apart.

You did not need to do an article to prove my point on the previous article.

posted 17 hours, 18 minutes ago

comment by GJ #COYS (U23170)
posted 10 minutes ago
So what result did you predict before the game?
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I was hoping for a win, as all fans should. But realistically knew it would be a defeat. How many teams full strength have beaten Liverpool this season, let alone one with lots of injuries. The answer is ONE.

So I don`t get all the nonsense because Spurs joined the growing list of clubs that have lost to Liverpool this season, when they had half the first XI missing.

posted 17 hours, 16 minutes ago

comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sandy, you are ridiculous

I'll give you answers, as you seem to be ignoring them.

Play with fullbacks, we don't.

Stop playing three attackers, especially when one of them are always a passenger.

Change formation to suit the players you have available.

Play 4-3-1-2 for instance to sure up the centre of two young centre backs.

According to you, it's Liverpool, they are great, so we shouldn't try and noone should be upset when we get ripped apart.

You did not need to do an article to prove my point on the previous article.
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Change formation. Like just sit back and get gubbed 4-0. You know that defence on the pitch yesterday is a reserve defence, and you suddenly think by changing tactics slightly it is suddenly going to peak into a peak Italian 1980s defence. They would have lost whatever the formation. They were up against a better side. When you play the better sides, you need your best team on the pitch. It isn`t rocket science.

posted 17 hours, 13 minutes ago

I 100% agree with the OP.

I was reading the match thread before kick off and the OP is right, everyone to a man was predicting a loss (and a big loss). I remember thinking to myself that even though that's what they're expecting, when it actually happens they will go into a complete meltdown, and so it proved.

Look, Ange is not helping himself with his comments to the media. He has been very prickly in interviews this season and in an attempt to defend himself he has chosen to double down on his rhetoric so as not to be seen as someone that is caving in. This approach makes him vulnerable to his critics.

The reality is that we are suffering a remarkable amount of injuries in key areas and as the OP says, any other team in the league would be struggling if they were in the same situation. Also, we are suffering from too many individual errors that are not down to tactics, just down to players having brain fart moments.

I was at the game yesterday and I'm pleased to say that the manager is still being largely backed by the fans as they understand that he can only work with the tools at his disposal.

Let's hope we can get some of our key players back and fit for the remainder of the season as we will then see results improve.


comment by Grinch (U23226)

posted 17 hours, 12 minutes ago

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posted 17 hours, 10 minutes ago

posted 17 hours, 6 minutes ago

We were predicting a loss because of the manager and his tactics, not because we expected it as they are better than us and we should accept it, as you are suggesting.

Cause and effect.

It is like dealing with primary school children

posted 17 hours, 3 minutes ago

comment by Grinch (U23226)
posted 8 minutes ago
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/463857

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/463899

Seriously how pathetic are you Sandy?
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posted 16 hours, 59 minutes ago

comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 4 minutes ago
We were predicting a loss because of the manager and his tactics, not because we expected it as they are better than us and we should accept it, as you are suggesting.

Cause and effect.

It is like dealing with primary school children
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You've tied yourself up a bit there and I don't know what your point is.

Are you saying that Liverpool are better than us and that's why you were expecting a defeat?

Or are you saying that we are better than Liverpool (even with half a reserve side) and you were expecting a defeat because of our manager?

posted 16 hours, 51 minutes ago

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 19 minutes ago
I 100% agree with the OP.

I was reading the match thread before kick off and the OP is right, everyone to a man was predicting a loss (and a big loss). I remember thinking to myself that even though that's what they're expecting, when it actually happens they will go into a complete meltdown, and so it proved.

Look, Ange is not helping himself with his comments to the media. He has been very prickly in interviews this season and in an attempt to defend himself he has chosen to double down on his rhetoric so as not to be seen as someone that is caving in. This approach makes him vulnerable to his critics.

The reality is that we are suffering a remarkable amount of injuries in key areas and as the OP says, any other team in the league would be struggling if they were in the same situation. Also, we are suffering from too many individual errors that are not down to tactics, just down to players having brain fart moments.

I was at the game yesterday and I'm pleased to say that the manager is still being largely backed by the fans as they understand that he can only work with the tools at his disposal.

Let's hope we can get some of our key players back and fit for the remainder of the season as we will then see results improve.



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Spot on Gezza. I am astonished that some of our fans cannot see that the injuries are playing a major part in the season thus far. Sure when all the players come back, Spurs still will not be winning every match. But they will be in a lot healthier position with players like Vicario, Romero, Micky, Udogie, Bentancur, Richarlison, Micky Moore, Odobert added to the selection process.

posted 16 hours, 48 minutes ago

comment by Grinch (U23226)
posted 22 minutes ago
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/463857

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/463899

Seriously how pathetic are you Sandy?
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That was then, since then Ange has had an unprecedented injury list to deal with. I have changed my mind completely on Ange. He is getting a rough deal from supporters and media over things that are completley out is control.

I guess you have never changed your mind on anything though.

posted 16 hours, 46 minutes ago

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 4 minutes ago
We were predicting a loss because of the manager and his tactics, not because we expected it as they are better than us and we should accept it, as you are suggesting.

Cause and effect.

It is like dealing with primary school children
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You've tied yourself up a bit there and I don't know what your point is.

Are you saying that Liverpool are better than us and that's why you were expecting a defeat?

Or are you saying that we are better than Liverpool (even with half a reserve side) and you were expecting a defeat because of our manager?


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I don`t think he knows what he saying. I think he saying Spurs should be beating Liverpool with a change of tactics with half the side missing.

posted 16 hours, 32 minutes ago

Most of us get that we have injuries and we have a make shift CB pairing.

If Ange is bemoaning the injury’ list why does he not help them team he puts out with a few adjustments here and there. We all knew if he played the same we’d get tonked and we were. why doesn’t he….. that’s all we ask.

Biss and Sarr are supposed offer protection to the CB’s and even more with Gray and Drag. At times yesterday there was a massive gap between defence and the two CM’s. It was like an eat all you can buffet for Liverpool.



posted 16 hours, 30 minutes ago

I mean I lost faith in Ange back during the Coventry game. We won't win anything with him, and I'd prefer to see him replaced sooner rather than later if we can identify the right person.

But - some of the overreactions are ridiculous. We lost by three goals to the best team in the country, with a whole bunch of important players missing for us. This game isn't the one to spit dummies out over.

posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago

Im curious to know, if you had lost 3-0 without trying to attack or cross the half way line, would this have been seen as acceptable as you played within your means?

posted 16 hours, 11 minutes ago

Of course absent players are having a major impact, we are unable to rotate and rest players which all contributes to a drop off.

But Ange`s tactics are also contributing, even with a full strength team on the pitch we have lost games we should be winning, it doesn`t matter which personnel are playing, we will still leave ourselves wide open and give the opposition acres of space to play.

Every team we play is given free licence in wide areas as our full backs disappear up the pitch, everybody knows how to beat Spurs.

Maybe with a fresh team every game, Ange ball can work, but refusing to adapt to the situation we are in is just stubborn stupidity, and every pundit is saying the same.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 16 hours, 7 minutes ago

It's not just about yesterday's result in isolation, it's the accumulation of form. It's another loss to make it 8 now this season. Not as if Liverpool beat every team they face either. They had 2 draws before us and no team has conceded as many to them as we did. Plus being at home you might expect for more.

As for the injuries, yes it might be partly responsible but let's add a little more context.

Udogie has been criticised for not being defensively good enough and Spence has come in and done well, if not been an improvement, so you can almost dismiss that.

Romero is another one who has been criticised heavily, including by you Sandy. Now you want to use him as a player that we're really missing? Hmmm.

Davies has now gone from being a fringe player we should have got rid of a while back to being another whose service is invaluable in the face of unavailability.

Forster apart from the 2 bad mistakes against United, hasn't really done much wrong. Dragusin and Gray we paid a lot of money for so if the idea is that we're rubbish when these guys have to step in, it doesn't say a lot about the decision to sign them and Ange agreeing to it.

Of course we all should know by now that when we've had our first players fit or when we haven't, the defence has been shaky for a long time and we always give up way too many chances.

I suppose given the injured players and the team we face next being a top 4 team, we should all accept it's going to be another loss, right and not complain about it?

posted 15 hours, 57 minutes ago

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's not just about yesterday's result in isolation, it's the accumulation of form. It's another loss to make it 8 now this season. Not as if Liverpool beat every team they face either. They had 2 draws before us and no team has conceded as many to them as we did. Plus being at home you might expect for more.

As for the injuries, yes it might be partly responsible but let's add a little more context.

Udogie has been criticised for not being defensively good enough and Spence has come in and done well, if not been an improvement, so you can almost dismiss that.

Romero is another one who has been criticised heavily, including by you Sandy. Now you want to use him as a player that we're really missing? Hmmm.

Davies has now gone from being a fringe player we should have got rid of a while back to being another whose service is invaluable in the face of unavailability.

Forster apart from the 2 bad mistakes against United, hasn't really done much wrong. Dragusin and Gray we paid a lot of money for so if the idea is that we're rubbish when these guys have to step in, it doesn't say a lot about the decision to sign them and Ange agreeing to it.

Of course we all should know by now that when we've had our first players fit or when we haven't, the defence has been shaky for a long time and we always give up way too many chances.

I suppose given the injured players and the team we face next being a top 4 team, we should all accept it's going to be another loss, right and not complain about it?
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No team has also not scored as many as Spurs did against Liverpool yesterday. But I guess that doesn`t suit the agenda.

Yes the defence has had problems even at full strength. especially with set pieces. But in general it looked reasonably comfortable against most teams. Surely better to have the best team on the pitch. They will win a lot more than they lose. Most of this seasons defeats have come since the injuries started to pile up.

posted 15 hours, 55 minutes ago

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's not just about yesterday's result in isolation, it's the accumulation of form. It's another loss to make it 8 now this season. Not as if Liverpool beat every team they face either. They had 2 draws before us and no team has conceded as many to them as we did. Plus being at home you might expect for more.

As for the injuries, yes it might be partly responsible but let's add a little more context.

Udogie has been criticised for not being defensively good enough and Spence has come in and done well, if not been an improvement, so you can almost dismiss that.

Romero is another one who has been criticised heavily, including by you Sandy. Now you want to use him as a player that we're really missing? Hmmm.

Davies has now gone from being a fringe player we should have got rid of a while back to being another whose service is invaluable in the face of unavailability.

Forster apart from the 2 bad mistakes against United, hasn't really done much wrong. Dragusin and Gray we paid a lot of money for so if the idea is that we're rubbish when these guys have to step in, it doesn't say a lot about the decision to sign them and Ange agreeing to it.

Of course we all should know by now that when we've had our first players fit or when we haven't, the defence has been shaky for a long time and we always give up way too many chances.

I suppose given the injured players and the team we face next being a top 4 team, we should all accept it's going to be another loss, right and not complain about it?
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Nottm Forest are currently in the top four. But they are a countrymile off being as good as Liverpool, even though they won at Anfield. I expect Spurs to get at least a draw, and maybe even a win. Wolves after that are Spurs bogey team, so anything could happen in that match. Also typically Wolves have finally hit a bit of form just in time for the Spurs match.

posted 15 hours, 54 minutes ago

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's not just about yesterday's result in isolation, it's the accumulation of form. It's another loss to make it 8 now this season. Not as if Liverpool beat every team they face either. They had 2 draws before us and no team has conceded as many to them as we did. Plus being at home you might expect for more.

As for the injuries, yes it might be partly responsible but let's add a little more context.

Udogie has been criticised for not being defensively good enough and Spence has come in and done well, if not been an improvement, so you can almost dismiss that.

Romero is another one who has been criticised heavily, including by you Sandy. Now you want to use him as a player that we're really missing? Hmmm.

Davies has now gone from being a fringe player we should have got rid of a while back to being another whose service is invaluable in the face of unavailability.

Forster apart from the 2 bad mistakes against United, hasn't really done much wrong. Dragusin and Gray we paid a lot of money for so if the idea is that we're rubbish when these guys have to step in, it doesn't say a lot about the decision to sign them and Ange agreeing to it.

Of course we all should know by now that when we've had our first players fit or when we haven't, the defence has been shaky for a long time and we always give up way too many chances.

I suppose given the injured players and the team we face next being a top 4 team, we should all accept it's going to be another loss, right and not complain about it?
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I think in reality it's somewhere in the middle. It's not quite as disastrous in terms of injuries as some are claiming, but I think it's worse than you're making out.

Romero and VDV are categorically our first choice centre backs.
Dragusin is third choice, Davies 4th choice, and maybe Gray is 5th choice at best. So we're playing with our 3rd and 5th choice CB's.

Forster is a distant second choice keeper. I agree he's done ok overall, but he's nowhere near Vicario's level.

Udogie is our first choice LB. I agree Spence has been great and so it doesn't really feel like a drop off in that area. But it also means Porro is being run into the ground because his backup options (Spence and Gray) are being used elsewhere.

Bentancur would absolutely be playing an important role in midfield.

Richy if ever fit would play a part, giving another attacking option and the option to rest Solanke, Son etc.

Same applies for Odobert and arguably Moore.

We're very stretched, and it's badly affecting us. But Ange could and should be being smarter based on what we have available.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 15 hours, 51 minutes ago

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's not just about yesterday's result in isolation, it's the accumulation of form. It's another loss to make it 8 now this season. Not as if Liverpool beat every team they face either. They had 2 draws before us and no team has conceded as many to them as we did. Plus being at home you might expect for more.

As for the injuries, yes it might be partly responsible but let's add a little more context.

Udogie has been criticised for not being defensively good enough and Spence has come in and done well, if not been an improvement, so you can almost dismiss that.

Romero is another one who has been criticised heavily, including by you Sandy. Now you want to use him as a player that we're really missing? Hmmm.

Davies has now gone from being a fringe player we should have got rid of a while back to being another whose service is invaluable in the face of unavailability.

Forster apart from the 2 bad mistakes against United, hasn't really done much wrong. Dragusin and Gray we paid a lot of money for so if the idea is that we're rubbish when these guys have to step in, it doesn't say a lot about the decision to sign them and Ange agreeing to it.

Of course we all should know by now that when we've had our first players fit or when we haven't, the defence has been shaky for a long time and we always give up way too many chances.

I suppose given the injured players and the team we face next being a top 4 team, we should all accept it's going to be another loss, right and not complain about it?
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No team has also not scored as many as Spurs did against Liverpool yesterday. But I guess that doesn`t suit the agenda.

Yes the defence has had problems even at full strength. especially with set pieces. But in general it looked reasonably comfortable against most teams. Surely better to have the best team on the pitch. They will win a lot more than they lose. Most of this seasons defeats have come since the injuries started to pile up.
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We scored our second and third when we were 5-1 down and Liverpool had already won ffs. That's what happens when teams are already way out in front, they take things easier.

Where does the idea that we'll win more than we lose come from, given our record? Aren't there as many losses as wins if you take out the first 10 new manager bounce games? It's crap form dating back to last season. The same form that is worse than what we went through under Poch towards the end who you were desperate for Levy to sack.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted 15 hours, 49 minutes ago

comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 39 minutes ago
I mean I lost faith in Ange back during the Coventry game. We won't win anything with him, and I'd prefer to see him replaced sooner rather than later if we can identify the right person.

But - some of the overreactions are ridiculous. We lost by three goals to the best team in the country, with a whole bunch of important players missing for us. This game isn't the one to spit dummies out over.
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how come as early on as the Coventry game?

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 15 hours, 48 minutes ago

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's not just about yesterday's result in isolation, it's the accumulation of form. It's another loss to make it 8 now this season. Not as if Liverpool beat every team they face either. They had 2 draws before us and no team has conceded as many to them as we did. Plus being at home you might expect for more.

As for the injuries, yes it might be partly responsible but let's add a little more context.

Udogie has been criticised for not being defensively good enough and Spence has come in and done well, if not been an improvement, so you can almost dismiss that.

Romero is another one who has been criticised heavily, including by you Sandy. Now you want to use him as a player that we're really missing? Hmmm.

Davies has now gone from being a fringe player we should have got rid of a while back to being another whose service is invaluable in the face of unavailability.

Forster apart from the 2 bad mistakes against United, hasn't really done much wrong. Dragusin and Gray we paid a lot of money for so if the idea is that we're rubbish when these guys have to step in, it doesn't say a lot about the decision to sign them and Ange agreeing to it.

Of course we all should know by now that when we've had our first players fit or when we haven't, the defence has been shaky for a long time and we always give up way too many chances.

I suppose given the injured players and the team we face next being a top 4 team, we should all accept it's going to be another loss, right and not complain about it?
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Nottm Forest are currently in the top four. But they are a countrymile off being as good as Liverpool, even though they won at Anfield. I expect Spurs to get at least a draw, and maybe even a win. Wolves after that are Spurs bogey team, so anything could happen in that match. Also typically Wolves have finally hit a bit of form just in time for the Spurs match.
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What will you say if they lose to Forest then seeing as you think we'll draw or win? Going to bring out the injury excuse again?

We'll revisit this after the game.

posted 15 hours, 47 minutes ago

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 39 minutes ago
I mean I lost faith in Ange back during the Coventry game. We won't win anything with him, and I'd prefer to see him replaced sooner rather than later if we can identify the right person.

But - some of the overreactions are ridiculous. We lost by three goals to the best team in the country, with a whole bunch of important players missing for us. This game isn't the one to spit dummies out over.
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how come as early on as the Coventry game?
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For me personally, I thought that game highlighted all his shortcomings. We were lucky to scrape through that one, and we've had some decent results since, but I just don't see anything which makes me believe we'll win anything with him.

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