Ole would be ideal but no. At least not until he has proven himself in the Best leagues in Europe.
I would want Mourinho at any costs. He is the only guy who has the arrogance, attitude, pedigre to succeed the greatest manager of all time.
I think people are getting too obsessed with the Barcelona model ex Guardiola etc.
We do not want a post Busby situation to happen again. So I would only want Mourinho to succeed SAF.
Can't believe there is a ridiculous poster over here who has said a few days ago that we should go for Moyes.
Absolute b()ll()cks.!!!
My point is unless Ole has established himself as a top manager with other club in a top league i.e won the league, CL or at least reached the semis or finals consistently I wouldn't be keen on him.
Got to agree with Jones.
Jose would be my second choice though after hiddink. Pep looks good but in truth it's the Barca youth set up that's making him look good, I could manage that team to at least second in the La Liga.
But ole needs to get another few years under his belt at home and then cut his teeth at a bigger club, he's still very young and a good age would be mid 40's.
Dejavu again with another ex fergie player?
when you have argentina and spains best players in your team, im sure it isnt that hard to manage
Can we stop discussing fergie retiring it really hurts me thinking about that day of doom when it arrives
mourinho will want money and wont neccessarily focus on your youngsters. also i doubt he'd stay more than 3-4 years. he's not that good anyway, he's overrated. let us have him back, i heard roy hodgson's a good manager though would fit united like a glove
On my members page it has said:
20legend will be our next manager!
For a few years now.
He will come
Re. comment by Jonesis,
Sorry mate but Josie would be my worst nightmare,
he loves himself so much that it would be all about him,
the players would be so much fodder for his ego that we could never attract a half decent player again.
The job is way too big for Ole at this stage. From Molde to United is a massive step too far. he needs to cut his teeth first at a club far bigger tham Molde
We need a manager who is going to continue with United's youth policy and a manager who plans on sticking around longer than a couple of years (David Gill has already stated this will be part of what the next candidate will have to be so he follows United's way. He went on to say if a manager does not want to go the route that SAF has done over the years then he probably isn;t the right man for United
Jose does not fit that bill for me.
Maybe when AVB has completed his apprenticeship at Chelsea he will fit the bill
Moyes is not as bad a shout as some think. He consistantly over achieves at Everton and he clearly sees a job for the long haul
I think when SAF does step aside it will be at the drop of a hat and the new man will have already been lined up and it won't be a big name. We don't often buy big name players and I think the same approach will be made with the manager. Some of the antics of Jose might have put the board, owners and fans off, but Jose would do a good job but it's unlikely they have him, he'll end up back at chelsea or in Itlay again
I think Mr Chelsea is right about Mourinho's short-term perspective. Every job he has had so far he has been backed with a fantastic budget and been allowed to spend on immediate success. He left both Chelsea and Inter with a legacy of an ageing core team and a need to overhaul. One of our greatest assets over the last two decades has been the continuity and long-term thinking Fergie has brought, and I regard that as more likely to continue if we appoint someone from 'within'.
Whether Solskjaer has what it takes is an entirely different question - all we have is a very promising start to his managerial career.
By the way, I disagree with Mr Chelsea's claim that Mourinho is 'overrated'. He's obviously a superb man manager and a clever tactician. But I'd be warmer to the idea of him succeeding Fergie if I believed he saw United as the club to settle at and the point to which his career had been building, rather than another bullet point for his CV.
Your'll get Mourinho and like it
People are criticizing Mourinho for the wrong reasons IMO.
1)He plays a boring brand of football - Just have a look at Madrid this season. They have played a very exciting style of football and still are my favourites for the la liga and CL despite the classico as Jose rarely fails in his second season.
2)He has a big ego and thinks too much about himself. - Even Fergie has a big ego and a sense of pride. This is what enables coaches like Fergie and Mourinho achieve success.
Regarding he thinks too much about himself just take a look at Sergio Ramos' interview last season where he said that the Madrid players would give their lives away for Jose. I love the way he develops a siege mentality just like Fergie. That motivates the players to achieve even more.
3)He doesn't promote youngsters - The average age of this Madrid side is less than United.
Benzema and has had a surge in form. He bought Varane, Sahin maybe Neymar, Ozil, Coenrtao etc.
Marcelo suddenly looks damn solid under him.
So all these excuses against him are baseless.
Red Russian
Mr Chelsea was wumming.LOL
Laurent Blanc could be an option (apparently)
Red Russian I was kidding about Mourinho being overrated.
He's a top manager. Will win trophies wherever he goes.
I think he's biding his time at Madrid until Fergie retires. He's always said he wants to come back to England and the United job would suit him down to a tee. Who better to fill the massive boots of fergie than jose? he knows he'l get to do what he wants in the club and he wont get interference from above. thats why he wants it. he's always spoken of his admiration for fergie and how he's done at united and fergie was probably the only manager mourinho never got involved in a spat with in his time at chelsea bodes well for jose. its gna be either united or chelsea either way
It won't be Chelsea for Mou. At least not until Roman is still around. He has too much of a sense of ego and pride to return to that swamp.
Mr Chelsea
I feel foolish for missing the irony. I've always felt that Mourinho could have his eye on the City job, should Mancini get the boot. Jose has a gift for making the right move at the right time and I'd have thought the big budget / chance to be the messiah for a new club would look quite attractive to him. Succeeding Fergie / suffering from comparisons / restricted Glazer budgets could be a bit of a poisoned chalice.
...whether the UEFA financial fair play regulations prove to have teeth could affect this analysis, of course.
Red Russian
There's just something in how he never talks ill of Fergie and Man Utd that makes me think he wants the United job. When asked about coming back to England, He's always said "Id love to come back whether it's with Chelsea or another club" I think that other club is Utd.
Doesn't mourinho want to manager portugal some time in his career?
Mr Chelsea
Doesn't his wording keep his options nicely open? I wouldn't want to suggest that United isn't one of the handful of jobs he'd regard as attractive propositions. But I wouldn't say that his record and career decisions so far suggest that, with the current ownership conditions and spending power, United would be his first choice.
Of course, I can't see inside his mind, and if he turned down a City offer to join United, this would set my mind at ease considerably.
Arab Manc
I think he has said he'd like to do that towards the end of his career. International management isn't such a full-time job.
Having said that, he'd be a great choice for the England job one day: good at motivating players, knows the English game well, good at coming up with tactical plans to slay better teams in tournament football (cf. Porto in CL; Inter v Barcelona). England's best hope is to have a good plan and have every player deploying it with convinction - like Greece 2004. Mourinho could be the rich man's Otto Rehhagel
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Arab Manc I think he will manage Portugal later on in his career He's always said International management is for an older experienced manager.
Red Russian - I was thinking If the Sheiks really wanted Mourinho,and if Mourinho was interested in joining them ,Wouldnt they have made a move for him by now instead of appointing Mancini?
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posted on 13/12/11
Ole would be ideal but no. At least not until he has proven himself in the Best leagues in Europe.
I would want Mourinho at any costs. He is the only guy who has the arrogance, attitude, pedigre to succeed the greatest manager of all time.
I think people are getting too obsessed with the Barcelona model ex Guardiola etc.
We do not want a post Busby situation to happen again. So I would only want Mourinho to succeed SAF.
Can't believe there is a ridiculous poster over here who has said a few days ago that we should go for Moyes.
Absolute b()ll()cks.!!!
My point is unless Ole has established himself as a top manager with other club in a top league i.e won the league, CL or at least reached the semis or finals consistently I wouldn't be keen on him.
posted on 13/12/11
Got to agree with Jones.
Jose would be my second choice though after hiddink. Pep looks good but in truth it's the Barca youth set up that's making him look good, I could manage that team to at least second in the La Liga.
But ole needs to get another few years under his belt at home and then cut his teeth at a bigger club, he's still very young and a good age would be mid 40's.
posted on 13/12/11
Dejavu again with another ex fergie player?
posted on 13/12/11
when you have argentina and spains best players in your team, im sure it isnt that hard to manage
posted on 13/12/11
Can we stop discussing fergie retiring it really hurts me thinking about that day of doom when it arrives
posted on 13/12/11
Arab Manc.
Spot on.
posted on 13/12/11
mourinho will want money and wont neccessarily focus on your youngsters. also i doubt he'd stay more than 3-4 years. he's not that good anyway, he's overrated. let us have him back, i heard roy hodgson's a good manager though would fit united like a glove
posted on 13/12/11
On my members page it has said:
20legend will be our next manager!
For a few years now.
He will come
posted on 13/12/11
Re. comment by Jonesis,
Sorry mate but Josie would be my worst nightmare,
he loves himself so much that it would be all about him,
the players would be so much fodder for his ego that we could never attract a half decent player again.
posted on 13/12/11
The job is way too big for Ole at this stage. From Molde to United is a massive step too far. he needs to cut his teeth first at a club far bigger tham Molde
We need a manager who is going to continue with United's youth policy and a manager who plans on sticking around longer than a couple of years (David Gill has already stated this will be part of what the next candidate will have to be so he follows United's way. He went on to say if a manager does not want to go the route that SAF has done over the years then he probably isn;t the right man for United
Jose does not fit that bill for me.
Maybe when AVB has completed his apprenticeship at Chelsea he will fit the bill
Moyes is not as bad a shout as some think. He consistantly over achieves at Everton and he clearly sees a job for the long haul
posted on 13/12/11
I think when SAF does step aside it will be at the drop of a hat and the new man will have already been lined up and it won't be a big name. We don't often buy big name players and I think the same approach will be made with the manager. Some of the antics of Jose might have put the board, owners and fans off, but Jose would do a good job but it's unlikely they have him, he'll end up back at chelsea or in Itlay again
posted on 13/12/11
I think Mr Chelsea is right about Mourinho's short-term perspective. Every job he has had so far he has been backed with a fantastic budget and been allowed to spend on immediate success. He left both Chelsea and Inter with a legacy of an ageing core team and a need to overhaul. One of our greatest assets over the last two decades has been the continuity and long-term thinking Fergie has brought, and I regard that as more likely to continue if we appoint someone from 'within'.
Whether Solskjaer has what it takes is an entirely different question - all we have is a very promising start to his managerial career.
By the way, I disagree with Mr Chelsea's claim that Mourinho is 'overrated'. He's obviously a superb man manager and a clever tactician. But I'd be warmer to the idea of him succeeding Fergie if I believed he saw United as the club to settle at and the point to which his career had been building, rather than another bullet point for his CV.
posted on 13/12/11
Your'll get Mourinho and like it
posted on 13/12/11
People are criticizing Mourinho for the wrong reasons IMO.
1)He plays a boring brand of football - Just have a look at Madrid this season. They have played a very exciting style of football and still are my favourites for the la liga and CL despite the classico as Jose rarely fails in his second season.
2)He has a big ego and thinks too much about himself. - Even Fergie has a big ego and a sense of pride. This is what enables coaches like Fergie and Mourinho achieve success.
Regarding he thinks too much about himself just take a look at Sergio Ramos' interview last season where he said that the Madrid players would give their lives away for Jose. I love the way he develops a siege mentality just like Fergie. That motivates the players to achieve even more.
3)He doesn't promote youngsters - The average age of this Madrid side is less than United.
Benzema and has had a surge in form. He bought Varane, Sahin maybe Neymar, Ozil, Coenrtao etc.
Marcelo suddenly looks damn solid under him.
So all these excuses against him are baseless.
posted on 13/12/11
Red Russian
Mr Chelsea was wumming.LOL
posted on 13/12/11
Laurent Blanc could be an option (apparently)
posted on 13/12/11
Red Russian I was kidding about Mourinho being overrated.
He's a top manager. Will win trophies wherever he goes.
I think he's biding his time at Madrid until Fergie retires. He's always said he wants to come back to England and the United job would suit him down to a tee. Who better to fill the massive boots of fergie than jose? he knows he'l get to do what he wants in the club and he wont get interference from above. thats why he wants it. he's always spoken of his admiration for fergie and how he's done at united and fergie was probably the only manager mourinho never got involved in a spat with in his time at chelsea bodes well for jose. its gna be either united or chelsea either way
posted on 13/12/11
It won't be Chelsea for Mou. At least not until Roman is still around. He has too much of a sense of ego and pride to return to that swamp.
posted on 13/12/11
Mr Chelsea
I feel foolish for missing the irony. I've always felt that Mourinho could have his eye on the City job, should Mancini get the boot. Jose has a gift for making the right move at the right time and I'd have thought the big budget / chance to be the messiah for a new club would look quite attractive to him. Succeeding Fergie / suffering from comparisons / restricted Glazer budgets could be a bit of a poisoned chalice.
...whether the UEFA financial fair play regulations prove to have teeth could affect this analysis, of course.
posted on 13/12/11
Red Russian
There's just something in how he never talks ill of Fergie and Man Utd that makes me think he wants the United job. When asked about coming back to England, He's always said "Id love to come back whether it's with Chelsea or another club" I think that other club is Utd.
posted on 13/12/11
Doesn't mourinho want to manager portugal some time in his career?
posted on 13/12/11
Mr Chelsea
Doesn't his wording keep his options nicely open? I wouldn't want to suggest that United isn't one of the handful of jobs he'd regard as attractive propositions. But I wouldn't say that his record and career decisions so far suggest that, with the current ownership conditions and spending power, United would be his first choice.
Of course, I can't see inside his mind, and if he turned down a City offer to join United, this would set my mind at ease considerably.
posted on 13/12/11
Arab Manc
I think he has said he'd like to do that towards the end of his career. International management isn't such a full-time job.
Having said that, he'd be a great choice for the England job one day: good at motivating players, knows the English game well, good at coming up with tactical plans to slay better teams in tournament football (cf. Porto in CL; Inter v Barcelona). England's best hope is to have a good plan and have every player deploying it with convinction - like Greece 2004. Mourinho could be the rich man's Otto Rehhagel
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Arab Manc I think he will manage Portugal later on in his career He's always said International management is for an older experienced manager.
Red Russian - I was thinking If the Sheiks really wanted Mourinho,and if Mourinho was interested in joining them ,Wouldnt they have made a move for him by now instead of appointing Mancini?
newWAYNEorder (U1015) Very Pretty Wayne
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