How was the selection a joke?
"But, he has a duty to the club and the fans to make the most of what he has and he is not doing it!"
Perfectly put.
The decision to revert to the ineffective 4-3-3 when we were on top and putting pressure on Napoli yesterday was totally brainless!
But we had to go 433 to accommodate Lampard which is what you guys all wanted. I've said it before, AVB can't win
TBK............
Cole, Essien, Lampard on the bench with Terry out injured! The three most experienced CL players in the squad,playing away where the objective should always be to keep the tie alive for the home leg.
Playing Miereles who has been rubbish for the last 3 months, playing Malouda who is rubbish, not playing a proper holding midfield player away from home when the 2 CBs are inexperienced in the CL.
Chasing the game agst a team famous for its counter attacking
I have not called for a Chelsea manager toi be sacked since Ken Shellito, but AVB is feckin useless!
But we had to go 433 to accommodate Lampard which is WHAT YOU GUYS ALL WANTED.
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All? Find me where I've called for that. I hate generalisations.
Lampard has been cack all season
Steve Mclaren won the Dutch League.and even got Boro to some cup finals, but he is a useless manager.
ACB won the Portuguese league and some cup finals and he is also useless!
The two of them should get a room!
He even got Boro
Essien should have started, but Lampard wouldn't have fit anywhere in a 4231. And if the reports about Cole about true, would you have really started him
How was the selection a joke?
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by playing two attacking midfielders in holding roles, with mikel and essien on the bench against napoli with one of the most lethal set of forwards in the champions league?
a forking 2 year old could see it was the most stupid decision ever
The decision to revert to the ineffective 4-3-3 when we were on top and putting pressure on Napoli yesterday was totally brainless!
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4-3-3 doesn't really work uless you have the personnel to fit it.
A lot of people think United play it, where as, we have not since Rooney tevez and Ronaldo were in the team.
Chelsea don't have the strikers or a winger who can play as a striker, to be successful in that formation.
by playing two attacking midfielders in holding roles, with mikel and essien on the bench against napoli with one of the most lethal set of forwards in the champions league?
a forking 2 year old could see it was the most stupid decision ever
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And if the reports about Cole about true, would you have really started him
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Of course they are not true! That was just a quote straight from his book ffs!
Cole was 50/50 for this match and was never going to start, we both know if he was 100% fit he would have started like normal. Anyway he was hardly impressive was he? Meireles and Malouda had to be played to accommodate Mata in a 4231, Lampard is not disciplined enough for the deep role in a 4231 so we would have to go 433 which we are terrible in attacking these days. Lampard has not been better than either this season. I do not see why you think he is so key to our side, he isn't.
If Mikel started you would still get half the board complaining and I maintain Essien is not 100% match fit yet. He was also so static when he came on. Anonymous.
Ramires is definitely not an attacking midfielder, he's been effective in a 4231 before too. Essien should have started instead of Meireles but you can see his think behind playing him
What bothers me and maybe it's not completely Avb's fault (but we should have enough quality in our side the figure this out) is why can't we create more chances than our opponents? We had plenty of the ball last night, pressured them quite a bit in their third but other than the goal which was a bit of fluke, we didn't really create anything more than a few half chances. Whereas Napoli could have scored 5 or 6 (with better finishing).
He needs to figure out how to get our centre forwards scoring and looking dangerous. Drogba was completely invisible and Torres well, we all know the story there. We created nothing against Birmingham either and in most of our last 10 or so matches. It's a losing recipe giving how we are so prone to defensive lapses. We aren't going to sign a striker that is miles (if at all) better than these two next season, so this needs to be worked out.
TBK.........
Its because you have no understanding of the importance and value of experienced players to a team.when playing in big games.
Fair enough, you are not old enough to value experience yet, but the fact is two of either Lampard, Essien or Mikel should have started.
It wasn't a stupid line up, it was a bold line up. If Ramires & Meireles had been the creative force going forward he put them in for, it would've been justified. The 4-2-3-1 was justified, we'd have conceded the same goals whatever formation we played last night, awful individual errors, except Mata wouldn't have been through the middle to capitalise for the first goal. And he had to revert back to 4-3-3 to accomediate Lampard.
He took a risk, it didn't work. I'd have taken the same risk so i can't condemn him for it
Why do we (with experienced defenders) continue to make defeinsive errors, every match? Why does no one have a word with Luiz about playing the a safe option. Ivanovic makes diabolical errors no matter where he plays but gets a free pass at RB for some reason (maybe because he's a better corsser than Bosingwa). Avb doesn't seem to take this side of the game seriously, he always downplays it mentioning referees or bad luck. He needs to sort it out.
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100% agreed with OP.
Playing away against a decent highly motivated hungry side like Napli and you are benching Lamps, Cole, Essien, Mikel... wtf???
This guy doesn't know when to stop digging.
He's history any way. He'll be fired in the coming days. But I hope RA sacks him before return leg, I'm 99% confident that if he does, we'll go through to the 1/4 final and.... might even win the league.
might even win the league.
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Even SAF couldn't win the league with the players you have.
Every man and his dog were questioning avb's selction. Everyone. Yet we have people on here asking for avb to be rewarded with a new contract for his stunning tactics and lineup last night. Worse than scousers
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posted on 22/2/12
How was the selection a joke?
posted on 22/2/12
Another fine mess
posted on 22/2/12
"But, he has a duty to the club and the fans to make the most of what he has and he is not doing it!"
Perfectly put.
The decision to revert to the ineffective 4-3-3 when we were on top and putting pressure on Napoli yesterday was totally brainless!
posted on 22/2/12
But we had to go 433 to accommodate Lampard which is what you guys all wanted. I've said it before, AVB can't win
posted on 22/2/12
TBK............
Cole, Essien, Lampard on the bench with Terry out injured! The three most experienced CL players in the squad,playing away where the objective should always be to keep the tie alive for the home leg.
Playing Miereles who has been rubbish for the last 3 months, playing Malouda who is rubbish, not playing a proper holding midfield player away from home when the 2 CBs are inexperienced in the CL.
Chasing the game agst a team famous for its counter attacking
I have not called for a Chelsea manager toi be sacked since Ken Shellito, but AVB is feckin useless!
posted on 22/2/12
But we had to go 433 to accommodate Lampard which is WHAT YOU GUYS ALL WANTED.
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All? Find me where I've called for that. I hate generalisations.
posted on 22/2/12
Lampard has been cack all season
posted on 22/2/12
Steve Mclaren won the Dutch League.and even got Boro to some cup finals, but he is a useless manager.
ACB won the Portuguese league and some cup finals and he is also useless!
The two of them should get a room!
He even got Boro
posted on 22/2/12
Essien should have started, but Lampard wouldn't have fit anywhere in a 4231. And if the reports about Cole about true, would you have really started him
posted on 22/2/12
How was the selection a joke?
----------------------------------------------------
by playing two attacking midfielders in holding roles, with mikel and essien on the bench against napoli with one of the most lethal set of forwards in the champions league?
a forking 2 year old could see it was the most stupid decision ever
posted on 22/2/12
The decision to revert to the ineffective 4-3-3 when we were on top and putting pressure on Napoli yesterday was totally brainless!
..................................
4-3-3 doesn't really work uless you have the personnel to fit it.
A lot of people think United play it, where as, we have not since Rooney tevez and Ronaldo were in the team.
Chelsea don't have the strikers or a winger who can play as a striker, to be successful in that formation.
posted on 22/2/12
by playing two attacking midfielders in holding roles, with mikel and essien on the bench against napoli with one of the most lethal set of forwards in the champions league?
a forking 2 year old could see it was the most stupid decision ever
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posted on 22/2/12
And if the reports about Cole about true, would you have really started him
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Of course they are not true! That was just a quote straight from his book ffs!
posted on 22/2/12
Cole was 50/50 for this match and was never going to start, we both know if he was 100% fit he would have started like normal. Anyway he was hardly impressive was he? Meireles and Malouda had to be played to accommodate Mata in a 4231, Lampard is not disciplined enough for the deep role in a 4231 so we would have to go 433 which we are terrible in attacking these days. Lampard has not been better than either this season. I do not see why you think he is so key to our side, he isn't.
posted on 22/2/12
If Mikel started you would still get half the board complaining and I maintain Essien is not 100% match fit yet. He was also so static when he came on. Anonymous.
posted on 22/2/12
Ramires is definitely not an attacking midfielder, he's been effective in a 4231 before too. Essien should have started instead of Meireles but you can see his think behind playing him
posted on 22/2/12
What bothers me and maybe it's not completely Avb's fault (but we should have enough quality in our side the figure this out) is why can't we create more chances than our opponents? We had plenty of the ball last night, pressured them quite a bit in their third but other than the goal which was a bit of fluke, we didn't really create anything more than a few half chances. Whereas Napoli could have scored 5 or 6 (with better finishing).
He needs to figure out how to get our centre forwards scoring and looking dangerous. Drogba was completely invisible and Torres well, we all know the story there. We created nothing against Birmingham either and in most of our last 10 or so matches. It's a losing recipe giving how we are so prone to defensive lapses. We aren't going to sign a striker that is miles (if at all) better than these two next season, so this needs to be worked out.
posted on 22/2/12
TBK.........
Its because you have no understanding of the importance and value of experienced players to a team.when playing in big games.
Fair enough, you are not old enough to value experience yet, but the fact is two of either Lampard, Essien or Mikel should have started.
posted on 22/2/12
It wasn't a stupid line up, it was a bold line up. If Ramires & Meireles had been the creative force going forward he put them in for, it would've been justified. The 4-2-3-1 was justified, we'd have conceded the same goals whatever formation we played last night, awful individual errors, except Mata wouldn't have been through the middle to capitalise for the first goal. And he had to revert back to 4-3-3 to accomediate Lampard.
He took a risk, it didn't work. I'd have taken the same risk so i can't condemn him for it
posted on 22/2/12
Why do we (with experienced defenders) continue to make defeinsive errors, every match? Why does no one have a word with Luiz about playing the a safe option. Ivanovic makes diabolical errors no matter where he plays but gets a free pass at RB for some reason (maybe because he's a better corsser than Bosingwa). Avb doesn't seem to take this side of the game seriously, he always downplays it mentioning referees or bad luck. He needs to sort it out.
posted on 22/2/12
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posted on 22/2/12
100% agreed with OP.
Playing away against a decent highly motivated hungry side like Napli and you are benching Lamps, Cole, Essien, Mikel... wtf???
This guy doesn't know when to stop digging.
He's history any way. He'll be fired in the coming days. But I hope RA sacks him before return leg, I'm 99% confident that if he does, we'll go through to the 1/4 final and.... might even win the league.
posted on 22/2/12
might even win the league.
...............
Even SAF couldn't win the league with the players you have.
posted on 22/2/12
Every man and his dog were questioning avb's selction. Everyone. Yet we have people on here asking for avb to be rewarded with a new contract for his stunning tactics and lineup last night. Worse than scousers
posted on 22/2/12
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