btw i love slaughterhouse

And drake

i love cee lo green

that man is great

jus coss he sings for der bitcheezzz

If Slaughterhouse wanted to sound popular they would just get Eminem to sign them to Shady and get him on a load of tracks on the album...

Eminem is out and out hip hop. He is hip hop royalty.

....Loop hole.

Cee-Lo is hip hop royalty.

how far do you wanna go back

He was good, but then there's elite hip hop.

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Because they didnt have the technology to create all these synthetic 'hhhhhhhoooooooonnnnnnkkkkk' sounds, it doesnt mean they aren't as well thought out or as much effort has been put into them. A minimalistic, yet catchy beat is a lot harder to master than the modern beats, which are all basically Notorious BIG's 'Dead wrong' on Auto-Tune. Just because they use REAL instruments doesnt mean they arent as well produced.

I would argue the lyricism in modern day songs is pretty terrible these days. You get people like Jay-Z writing songs about how he hates autotune and then goes and produces songs by Mr Hudson and Kanye. At least lupe/macklemore can actually write, even if they are a bit too political.

Cee-Lo was hip hop royalty in the 90s, 00s and remains so now. Hence why Slaughterhouse get him on a track.

Are you going to suggest Andre 3000 also is no longer relevant?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HjhxG0SYE

Don't get me wrong, 80's/90's rap was incredible, it still is for alot of people. But People have to understand that hip hop is an art form, and it is the 21st century, people are creating new and exciting sounds that 20 years ago people couldn't even imagine.

Even now the lyricisim I believe is gone to greater depths than 20 years ago, when it did sound like they were rapping about the same stuff over and over again, banging hoe-s, shooting cops, and bragging about themselves 24/7.

You can't just ignore people who literally work themselves to the ground 24/7 nowheredays, people like childish gambino, kendric lamar, J.Cole, and hopsin etc.

It's just purists who always maintain that modern hip hop is all about money and drugs are completely wrong. If they're creating new sounds then we should be celebrating, the lyricism is just as incredible, it's just that not everyone grew up in the hood selling drugs.

Appreciate.

Sorry if i got a bit ranty,

It's just I grew up listening to modern rap, i only discovered 90's rap (tupac/big etc.) 3 or 4 years ago.

Still love both though.

Also, I didn't know until recently that Cee lo was a rapper

I just thought he did a catchy song called crazy

You listen to a very limited range of 90s rap if you think they were only rapping about banging hoe-s, shooting cops and bragging about themselves.

Listen to OutKast, Tha Pharcyde, A Tribe Called Quest and the whole Native Tongues clique.

And as for working hard??? They broke down the walls, when rap and hip hop was a small movement that many tried to ban, radios wouldn't play their songs etc.
For instance, the RZA had to sell Protect Ya Neck, Wu's first single, from the back of his car around the neighbourhood to get hype for the album.

Cee-Lo, The Goodie Mobb, Organized Noise and OutKast pretty much put the South of US on the hip-hop map, opening the doors to much of the music that is popular now, such as Cash Money/Young Money style.

Even now the lyricisim I believe is gone to greater depths than 20 years ago, when it did sound like they were rapping about the same stuff over and over again, banging hoe-s, shooting cops, and bragging about themselves 24/7.
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I would say its gone the other way around. There are so many artists now who just talk about that kind of stuff, but I do admit there are others tackling other stuff outwith.


I dont mind a few modern hip-hop artists, just the majority of it is now terrible. And the good ones have sold out as well.

Currently in the uk top 40 r'n'b charts there is William, Lil Wayne, fiddy, Flo Rida, frank ocean, kanye, and more.

In the US there is Chris brown, Drake, 2 Chainz (I hate these guys if I remember correctly), Lil Wayne, Future, Big shaun, Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, Mack Miller and Wale.

Top quality that

'Appreciate'

I understand you care very much for 80's90's rap, but why do you persist with the argument that all their modern day contemporaries are uesless and don't have half the skill?

Kanye is simply a genius with producing incredible hip hop albums, it may not be "real", or you may consider it pop, but the guy pretty much transformed the whole idea of what a hip hop record should sound like.

I do appreciate hip hop from back in the day, It is a limited knowledge i have yes, but the hip hop of these days seems to me far more progressive and daring.

Sorry but if you're just looking at the top 40...

Im using it to show how the majority of modern mainstream rap has really gone to sh.it.

But yes there are some acts I do like.

Frank Ocean is very good...

Kanye? Sell out

808s & Heartbreak is one of the few albums I have ever sold.

Chris Brown isn't even a rapper. None of the people you mentioned, apart from Drake, have any clue how to rap

I like Mack Miller, he does his own thing, doesn't try and get to pop sounding

You don't think the likes of RZA (who KanYe took the whole speeded up soul samples from), DJ Premier, The Bomb Squad, Pete Rock etc made what hip hop should sound like?

I would take Just Blaze ahead of KanYe for best Roc-a-fella/Roc Nation producer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FCRmggNqQ

A perfect example of Kanye making a ridiculous sample sound incredible.

This song is why i believe in 21st century hip hop.