Can you imagine mourinho staying at a club as long as alex ferguson, (or even wenger) has at their respective clubs, and be as successful? I don't think so. the constant re-building of teams, handling the way players have changed over the years (mentality, money before success attitudes, etc.), it's not a picnic.

One thing I will say about Mourinho though is wherever he goes, the players love him. They never want him to leave.

If Mourinho leaves Madrid, that will be the biggest mess he will ever leave behind.

So many superstars, don't see any manager lasting for more than 3 months at Madrid until the whole team dismantled.

He F'ecked up Chelsea and Inter with his legacy

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please explain how he has fecked up chelsea. if anyone has fecked up chelsea, its the board and maybe roman

Pep did alot more than "inherit" Barca. During their final season under Rijkaard, they looked broken. Still had a wealth of talent, which was demonstrated enough, but there was something broken about the club ..... players were becoming disillusioned, Rijkaard looked increasingly stressed, and the support behind their project was losing momentum. Now why'll Pep did have the best "team" in the world at his disposal - to win the lot in his first season (all be it in controversional circumstances) was still some acheivement given they were on the floor mentality when he was promoted.

I don't think he's a better manager than Mourinho what so ever, Guardiola would not win the CL with Porto within two years, would never happen. None the less, he's a grounded man and a visionary, but intriguingly an unproven tactican.

Guardiola isn't better than Mourinho but he's a great manager who's brought a lot to Barcelona.

They weren't the best team of all time when Pep took over, no one was calling Xavi and iniesta the best midfielders in the world before Pep took over, Barca hadn't won the league in 3 years before he took over but yeah anyone else could of done the same with that team.

please explain how he has fecked up chelsea. if anyone has fecked up chelsea, its the board and maybe roman

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He has messed us up indirectly, though it was the boards responsability to notice and put out the fire when it arose.

Our dressing room's superiority complex towards it's managers is a result of Mourinho installing a single minded belief system that still engulfs certain individuals to this day. It's why i suspect AVB had the hardest time of the lot, too close to home.

Of all the club's he's managed, we're the one's who've been moulded most in his image. The way you hear former Inter players speak of him, it sounds more like he impacted them tactically, revealed weaknesses in the opposition no other manager would've noticed ..... but everywhere in our club we have genuine individuals who mirror his thinking patterns. He border line brainwashed us lol

If anything I think that Pep is underrated. He is an incredible coach and he is often disregarded because of the great players he has at his disposal.

Whenever a Barca player is asked about Guardiola they always tell of how demanding he is in training. Barcelona were nowhere near this good before he joined.

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If anything I think that Pep is underrated. He is an incredible coach and he is often disregarded because of the great players he has at his disposal.

Whenever a Barca player is asked about Guardiola they always tell of how demanding he is in training. Barcelona were nowhere near this good before he joined.
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he's not under rated and he did very well to win the quad in his first season

but really and truly, he's got a great squad, great academy and a good budget. to add to that he doesn't have to do a lot tactically as barca will play the same whoever the manager is. everything has pretty much been set up for him to win which he has as everyone epect you to

at least he can cope with the pressure and has good man managment, you'd have to be rafa to mess that system up

hmm see what you're saying polykhor

pep does have a good system around him, the la masia academy, 3 of the worlds best players playing in his team, everyone idolises him from within the club.

what pep's done is bring total football back to barcelona. im not too clued up on their history but they started this total football didnt they when cryuff was around? or was it some guy before him. it was he who wanted barcelona to copy ajax's academy setup and their total football philosophy mixed with tiki taka.

it got lost in the 2000s imo and pep has brought it back and possibly nurtured one of the best club sides in history.

are you joking barcas system has been roughly the same throughout for ages

if he brought anything to the squad maybe it was better man management and motivation

Can i just re-iterate That Pep, did inherit and effing good set up. This Barca team in the words of a lot of people, has been described as "15 years in the making" Meaning the foundations etc were laid a long long time before Pep.

I no longer want Rijkaard (i did back in 08), but he also did a not too disimilar job to Pep, challenged Real's dominence in Spain, missed out on 3 titles in a row, based on games against, In most other leagues that would've been 3 in a row based on goal difference. Barca were in a shocking state when Rijkaard took over. They finished 3rd when he was replaced. And got to the Semi Final of Champs league, when i Believe Messi spent half the season injured and was used sparingly when returned, to protect,

If our youth set up and academy one day mirrors Barca's current set up, then by all means............Let's hire Pep...........But now? We'd be as well bringing back AVB

Pep is very good.
Mourinho is the best manager in the world.

yeah i think barca need to win a few trophies and start playing teams off the park before we can say pep is any good.

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Read the Graham Hunter book about Barcelona and then try and say that Guardiola isn't a good manger.

He is definitely in the top 3 managers in the world, no doubt.

Pep was the Barcelona youth coach who brought most of these players through.
Moaninho is a chequebook manager.
If he can't spend more than everybody in the league he's in he won't win it.
And to see the negative tactics he employs with these multi million pound squads is IMHO embarrassing.

Negative tactics? Have you seen how many goals Real Madrid have scored?

he only employs them against barca tbf. against other teams they are superb at times.

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not sure you're really arguing the case for pep properly there quebecelt...

Mr. Chelsea, your ex-manager is a whining little man who tries to influence the refs with his incessant moaning.

And your point is?

Obviously I don't like him. That's about it.

quebecelt - i think they're both good managers - you cannot questions mourinho's record of winning a league title in every country he's been in and he's won 2 cl's with two different clubs. obviously he has a way of doing things. some may not like it. i dont think he's all that negative. only when he has to be ultra negative then he will play that type of football like against barcelona for example but if you watch their football against the rest of the league, its far from boring

also on the diving issue, i suggest you look at some barcelona players. they can dive and feign injury and exxaggerate contact as much as any of mourinho's men

i like pep because of the football he's got barcelona playing. its pretty much perfect football and he's won something like 13 trophies in 4 years of managing them. ridiculous record.