comment by ole_1999 (U13262)
posted 7 seconds ago
yesterday young was caught by clarke and a penalty was the correct decision. i'll be honest enough to admit that i don't like the way young exaggerated it, but the vast majority of players at any level would have done the same. it's part of the game and probably always will be.
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Many players do it, true, Young more than most. However I don't agree it will always be part of the game. It wasn't before, so it doesn't need to be now. When video evidence, eventually gets introduced, which it will, considering the outrageous amount of bad decisions that have come into the game, especially this season, we'll begin to stamp out dives and punish them retrospectively.

Furthermore 'going down easily' should be punished too, meaning the referee can blow for a free-kick whether a player goes down or not.

"Furthermore 'going down easily' should be punished too."

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Interesting point of view from a supporter of the club who pays Luis Suarez' wages. Turkeys voting for Christmas?

players are already booked for diving, short of sending them off, which i can't ever see being implemented, how do you think it will be eradicated?

Many players do it, true, Young more than most.

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comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Furthermore 'going down easily' should be punished too."

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Interesting point of view from a supporter of the club who pays Luis Suarez' wages. Turkeys voting for Christmas?
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Why is it interesting. I want it stamped out, whether it is a Liverpool player or not. I have said this in this very thread. I can say that, I'm not completely biased and on the defensive, like some on this thread.

as ole1999 said it was a pen. A silly challenge that Young made the most of. Not pretty from Youngs point of view but unfortunately nothing out of the norm in todays game.....

I'm not completely biased and on the defensive, like some on this thread.

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Never said you were, old boy.

comment by ole_1999 (U13262)
posted 2 minutes ago
players are already booked for diving, short of sending them off, which i can't ever see being implemented, how do you think it will be eradicated?
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You think? Referees do it once in a blue moon, due to the fact that they can't be sure. Unless referees are sure, they can't make the decision.

So retrospectively the FA should ban a player for a game, using video evidence. It won't fix the problem and it won't console the team who were on the receiving end of a dive which won the game but it will punish the player and make him think twice as bans start to rack up.

One dive=One game ban.

Do it again? Two game ban.

Again? Three game ban.

This means the serial divers are punished more severely than one-time offenders.

Aluko was banned retrospectively by the SFA for 2 matches - in spite of there being contact.

If it cuts out diving then even as a Rangers fan I say it's a good thing.

Young does it more than most

You have Suarez in your team mate, Jesus

I'm not completely biased and on the defensive, like some on this thread.

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your comparison of gerrard and young was somewhat biased and defensive....

i.e

"Yes. He has dived a few times since that too. However he doesn't do it, in nearly every game, like Young does."

filters=wimps (U11635)
posted 35 minutes ago

I said it in his Villa time a lot.

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of course you did

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Of course, I did.


Diving is wrong. I dont come here saying Liverpool players are right and I call it wrong when i see it.

Young is a cheat. Current form doesnt lie.

comment by filters=wimps (U11635)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'm not completely biased and on the defensive, like some on this thread.

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your comparison of gerrard and young was somewhat biased and defensive....

i.e

"Yes. He has dived a few times since that too. However he doesn't do it, in nearly every game, like Young does."
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How so? It is true. It is not bias at all. Gerrard has dived on a few occasions, including the Champions League final, which was still a penalty, like the Ashley Young one. However Young dives nearly every game. I am not in defence of Gerrard diving at all, nor Suarez, who goes down far too easily and as I've said players should be banned retrospectively and that, to put your mind at ease, includes Liverpool players.

However he doesn't do it, in nearly every game, like Young does."

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But thats not true....

Young dose not dive in every game....

Thats your anti utd bias talking...

"Young is a cheat. Current form doesnt lie. "

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Young may well have cheated in the last two games to win a penalty. I'm uncomfortable with that.

How do you feel about Suarez exaggerating contact in exactly the same way?

Will you categorically say 'Suarez is a cheat. His form this season doesn't lie'.

Course you won't, in fact I bet you'd go on to justify the barrell roll at Old Trafford, the reaction that got Rodwell sent off, the pen at WBA etc etc etc in precise details. We keep hearing 'Suarez doesn't dive, there's always contact'. If that's the criteria then Young's in the clear.

So just saying Young's a cheat is just inflammatory and trying to get a rise out of United fans, unless of course you're willing to categorically state Suarez is a cheat? We'd have a level debate then where it doesn't just feel like a dig.

comment by filters=wimps (U11635)
posted 24 minutes ago
However he doesn't do it, in nearly every game, like Young does."

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But thats not true....

Young dose not dive in every game....

Thats your anti utd bias talking...
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I didn't say he dives every game. Which makes your other points redundant.

I didn't say he dives every game. Which makes your other points redundant.

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my mistake you said "in nearly every game"

Still a nonsense statement

United get more than their fair share of dodgy decisions.

It is undisputable.

Not a game has passed since the creation of this article where they haven't received a poor decision in their favour.

all rangers fans have ginger hair and diabolical personal hygiene standards. it is indisputable.

Not a game has passed since the creation of this article where they haven't received a poor decision in their favour.

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And not a game has gone past where we have had a poor decision go againts us either soft lad.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not a game has passed since the creation of this article where they haven't received a poor decision in their favour.

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And not a game has gone past where we have had a poor decision go againts us either soft lad.
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This is a fair comment and in my opinion true. However, all decisions that went against United seemed to come after the initial decision which changed the game. When teams lineup against United they lineup not to concede but if the concede they have to come out and play which results in more conceded. So this means that if United get a decision in their favour which results in them scoring, the whole game has changed.

I said that United would thrash Villa and I don't think that was ever in doubt, however it was made easy, with this decision.

Of course other teams get decisions also, such has been the poor standard of refereeing this season. Only recently Chelsea had two offside goals, which helped to defeat Wigan, I believe. Plus the ghost goal and not giving the foul previous to giving a foul in Chelsea's favour when Lampard scored.

ok then, wigan away only five days ago. two valid penalty appeals turned down and their goal came from a corner which should never have been given. over to you.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)

This is a fair comment and in my opinion true. However, all decisions that went against United seemed to come after the initial decision which changed the game.
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Some of them do, some of them don't. The pens that we should have had against Wigan for example. Or the penalty decision against Newcastle.

comment by ole_1999 (U13262)
posted 3 minutes ago
ok then, wigan away only five days ago. two valid penalty appeals turned down and their goal came from a corner which should never have been given. over to you.
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As I said before, I haven't doubted that United have had decisions go against them.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)

This is a fair comment and in my opinion true.

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do you think its a fair or true comment to say that Young dives in nearly every game...