On a similar vein...were we thinking at one time of signing Thorgan Hazard...because he was (so say) potentially better than Eden...?

That went quiet

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 11 minutes ago
and like it or not biggish..stats of all types are a huge part of all top class sport now, especially in football, and from all levels.
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Ok, if you are such a stats guru, then I am interested to know your methodology for significance and interpretation.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 11 minutes ago
and like it or not biggish..stats of all types are a huge part of all top class sport now, especially in football, and from all levels.
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Ok, if you are such a stats guru, then I am interested to know your methodology for significance and interpretation.
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Did I say I was that....?

try the Thorgan question...I said that..

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 6 minutes ago
try the Thorgan question...I said that..
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Explain the point of the Thorgan question, I saw no point in it whatsoever, other than its utter irrelevance

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 11 minutes ago
and like it or not biggish..stats of all types are a huge part of all top class sport now, especially in football, and from all levels.
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Ok, if you are such a stats guru, then I am interested to know your methodology for significance and interpretation.
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Did I say I was that....?
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It's pretty frightening if people are prepared to buy into an opinion based on data that they neither understand how to interpret nor validate for significance

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 6 minutes ago
try the Thorgan question...I said that..
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Explain the point of the Thorgan question, I saw no point in it whatsoever, other than its utter irrelevance
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Really...spotting potential...?

maybe his stats never stacked up...maybe we were never in for him

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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 6 minutes ago
try the Thorgan question...I said that..
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Explain the point of the Thorgan question, I saw no point in it whatsoever, other than its utter irrelevance
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Really...spotting potential...?

maybe his stats never stacked up...maybe we were never in for him
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We signed him and we let him go, please explain the significance of that in relation to Chelsea and KDB

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comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 4 minutes ago
It was obvious to everyone aside from Mourinho how good KDB was. But feel free to disagree.
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I will thanks...

Problem was Jose was the man with the call on whether he plays....an insight into how far Jose's fallen maybe...despite being Spurs made manager...the success of which is yet to be seen

https://www.90min.com/posts/6345493-kevin-de-bruyne-reveals-reason-behind-chelsea-exit-describes-football-at-man-city-as-nirvana
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KDB at Chelsea oozed potential, frankly anyone who could not see that is an utter kant
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His stats didn't support that...Jose wasn't having it
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How do stats support potential? Just watch a player, thatv is all it takes. If you need stats to spot talent. then frankly you dont have a clue.
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I'm saying Jose thought his stats were the issue...he basically told him so
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I dont get this, maybe you know more about the situation, but what stats are we talking about? KDB played about 150 minutes for chelsea. Less than two games worth overall.

Howcome we never kept hold of thorgan? isn't he pretty good nowadays.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Howcome we never kept hold of thorgan? isn't he pretty good nowadays.
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Nothing special, bit part player at Dortmund this season

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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Howcome we never kept hold of thorgan? isn't he pretty good nowadays.
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Nothing special, bit part player at Dortmund this season
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seeeen. Getting pretty bored now, and we have to wait till Monday ffs

I hope I'm not disappointed in the summer as I'm expecting a clear out of all the deadwood in this squad and also those who are not good enough.

Hopefully with the bonus of us getting our business done early in terms of incomings.

Yeah it's been boring without the PL even though I'm not optimistic about Monday's game.

I'm glad we've had this short winter break. It's crazy to expect players to keep going nonstop over a 9 month season with as many games as there are in all comps. This should have been introduced years ago.

Hopefully we'll see some of our very jaded looking players like Tammy and Mount bounce back on their returns and be sharp for the remianinder of the season.

* remainder

It has been boring as fack without footie of course, especially in February when there's not much else going on. But I'm expecting the standard of play to improve as players return re-energised etc.

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comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 35 minutes ago
I'm glad we've had this short winter break. It's crazy to expect players to keep going nonstop over a 9 month season with as many games as there are in all comps. This should have been introduced years ago.

Hopefully we'll see some of our very jaded looking players like Tammy and Mount bounce back on their returns and be sharp for the remianinder of the season.
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I disagree with you on this superb I must be honest. Obviously not playing at that level, but with none of the physio or healthcare these pros have to hand, I use to play footy 3/4 times a week and do kickboxing too. And I was very intense as a player and a bit of a freak energy wide...which makes me feel even worse nowadays when i struggle to do a 5k

comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 14 minutes ago
I expect a horror week from us so to me this is a pleasant calm period before this place turns into a permanent place of heated argument
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you're always expecting a horror week!

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour ago
Howcome we never kept hold of thorgan? isn't he pretty good nowadays.
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I honestly wasn't aware we even had him on the books...there was lots of talk, obviously didn't pass muster then

I don't think we can take what happens this season to heart too much because it's a one-off season for us that we won't see again.

Rookie young manager, team filled with young inexperienced players and two completely inactive transfer seasons. It's unheard of for us so we clearly shouldn't have great expectations for this season. I don't anyway and I didn't think we'd get top four before the season started.

At this point I'm really just looking at this summer and this all important summer transfer window that the club absolutely must get right and must be deep in preparation for as we speak. No excuses.

Yeah everyone I think knew to give this season time, what's been dissapointing to me is now seeing how good our younger players can be, we have let ourselves down in certain games.
Some of the losses and dropped points have been shambolic. I was expecting us to be flaky and to struggle against the top teams, but we've actually been pretty good against the better teams and been very poor against the lower teams.

I had us 8th & just missing out on Euromick...which seemed to be not too bad a plan, as long as we could attracct decent new players in summer

How dare Frank up our expectations...

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 11 minutes ago
and like it or not biggish..stats of all types are a huge part of all top class sport now, especially in football, and from all levels.
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Ok, if you are such a stats guru, then I am interested to know your methodology for significance and interpretation.
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Did I say I was that....?
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It's pretty frightening if people are prepared to buy into an opinion based on data that they neither understand how to interpret nor validate for significance
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i'm sure it must be...however I never said I did...I said stats are an important part of the game, whether you like it/agree or not

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 35 minutes ago
I'm glad we've had this short winter break. It's crazy to expect players to keep going nonstop over a 9 month season with as many games as there are in all comps. This should have been introduced years ago.

Hopefully we'll see some of our very jaded looking players like Tammy and Mount bounce back on their returns and be sharp for the remianinder of the season.
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I disagree with you on this superb I must be honest. Obviously not playing at that level, but with none of the physio or healthcare these pros have to hand, I use to play footy 3/4 times a week and do kickboxing too. And I was very intense as a player and a bit of a freak energy wide...which makes me feel even worse nowadays when i struggle to do a 5k
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Fair enough but the thing is these players are just human beings and what they have to put into a season energy wise is immense when you factor even trivial stuff like all the travelling these guys have to do. Especially to far flung corners of Europe and back within a day or two.

Looking at Mount and Tammy in recent weeks they both looked wrecked to me. Let's see how they do on their returns, will be interesting to see if the rest has done them good or not.