comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 10 minutes ago
To my mind It still falls on you to provide me examples given that you stated that sky use rubbish stats

Up to you....if you can't back it up - just say
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I don;t have to back it up. People educated enough will instinctively see the pitfalls in weak statsitical data, Ignorance is bliss, please do continue to be blissful

comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I must give creit to Daily Mail that despite its right hand column (online) that each day objectifies women, it never shirks from claiming the moral high ground on issue of sexism...
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Very true. Albeit most female music artists with empowerment hashtags and calls for gender equality spend most their time gyrating with no clothes on.
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That is also true....

As usual, somewhere in the middle. Ignoring stats is fully as is only relying on stats.

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Isn't pools run built on stats and var?

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 51 seconds ago
I said too much math and then y'all had a 4 page discussion about stats. Thanks
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no..this came from something Biggish said...it's back with him
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Sheriff as a matter of interest, what do you know about statistics exactly? You appear to have immense faith in them, theerfore, i must assume that you are well eductaed in this domain
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Oh dear...I have said at least twice on here today I'm no expert on stats...that wasn't the debate...and well you know it
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no....you seem to have an unquestionable loyalty to stats....you used it as the reason as to why Jose let KDB leave and you took umbrage when i state the view that sports media dumb down stats to make dumb points for a dumb audience...

comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted about a minute ago
As usual, somewhere in the middle. Ignoring stats is fully as is only relying on stats.
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Of course, quality stats are incredibly important as part of evidence based analysis

And Soc, in your profession and in your training, i imagine you are well versed in using stats

Nah I use a dartboard with diagnoses on it

comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted about a minute ago
Nah I use a dartboard with diagnoses on it
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Like the NHS then

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 10 minutes ago
To my mind It still falls on you to provide me examples given that you stated that sky use rubbish stats

Up to you....if you can't back it up - just say
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I don;t have to back it up. People educated enough will instinctively see the pitfalls in weak statsitical data, Ignorance is bliss, please do continue to be blissful
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Bit rude

Yep...but i am too tired to post anything dimplomatic.

This is not a recent article, but it starts to delve into some of the things that i mean

http://www.thefalsenine.co.uk/2015/01/14/the-dangers-of-football-statistics/

ditto

https://www.theguardian.com/football/when-saturday-comes-blog/2014/feb/03/statistics-football-analysis-miss-point-game

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 10 minutes ago
To my mind It still falls on you to provide me examples given that you stated that sky use rubbish stats

Up to you....if you can't back it up - just say
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I don;t have to back it up. People educated enough will instinctively see the pitfalls in weak statsitical data, Ignorance is bliss, please do continue to be blissful
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You said you would though...just saying

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 51 seconds ago
I said too much math and then y'all had a 4 page discussion about stats. Thanks
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no..this came from something Biggish said...it's back with him
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Sheriff as a matter of interest, what do you know about statistics exactly? You appear to have immense faith in them, theerfore, i must assume that you are well eductaed in this domain
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Oh dear...I have said at least twice on here today I'm no expert on stats...that wasn't the debate...and well you know it
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no....you seem to have an unquestionable loyalty to stats....you used it as the reason as to why Jose let KDB leave and you took umbrage when i state the view that sports media dumb down stats to make dumb points for a dumb audience...


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I did...and left the conversation that they had as proof

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 10 minutes ago
To my mind It still falls on you to provide me examples given that you stated that sky use rubbish stats

Up to you....if you can't back it up - just say
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I don;t have to back it up. People educated enough will instinctively see the pitfalls in weak statsitical data, Ignorance is bliss, please do continue to be blissful
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You said you would though...just saying
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I said i would look for an example the next time i watch sky sports news, but that aint that often....

but the two articles i just posted, although not recent are along the lines that i am coming from

Ok...you made the effort

Overall I feel I've covered my points adequately though...and haven't promised anything I couldn't deliver..

So when is CMF back?....Will he be allowed to glowing relay every word from Frank's press conferance on Friday?

Oh I'd forgotten about him...couldn't have had this debate with his inane footprint all over the shop

Sheriff I get that one of the reasons KDB left may have been down to his stats base on his interview/convo with Jose. Did you agree with him being sold?

I can picture RTM in hysterics right now

The soulless one had an attitude problem according to one with no attitude problem whatsoever, right? Which is why he was let go. Didnt train well. Maybe it's a Belgian thing.