He would have had to have ben blind not to spot Silva, considering he played for Rafa at Valencia.
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No he didn't.
My mistake, yes he did, he was on loan
Rafa did not get value for money. He paid low prices for players with low worth. Wenger pays low prices for players with high worth. Just because the players were cheap doesn't make them good signings.
I have no jealousy to Rafa, that is laughable. If it wasn't for your CL win he would never be talked about. That is all he did.
Only got us to 2 finals and came second in the league.. yep awful manager..
Rafa has a better medal collection than Wenger.
You'd never know it from the 'fat spanish waiter' hating media and collective banter, but he does.
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 32 seconds ago
Rafa has a better medal collection than Wenger.
..........................
Are you sure about that?
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Wenger's got 3 prems, Rafa's got 2 La Liga's and a CL
Only a fool would rate the former higher.
Wenger has more medals, but he doesn have the European Cup or UEFA Medals. Or La Liga.
No need to lie bro. Wenger has 9 major honours, as opposed to Rafas 5
You don't for a second think Rafa is better than Wenger do you?
On a par with each other. Very different strengths and weaknesses
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 2 minutes ago
positive
Wenger's got 3 prems, Rafa's got 2 La Liga's and a CL
Only a fool would rate the former higher.
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Rafa
2 x La Ligas, 1 x UEFA Cup, 1x CL 1x FA Cup
Arsene
1x French League 1x French Cup
3x EPL 4x FA Cup
Off you go now.
Liverpool fans really are something else. You all live in a scouse bubble.
Wenger spends less money, plays better football and consistently gets results. He won manager of the decade with these results;
IFFHS – Top 10 managers 2001-2010
1. Arsene Wenger France 156
2. Sir Alex Ferguson Scotland 148
3. Jose Mourinho Portugal 135
4. Fabio Capello Italy 120
5. Guus Hiddink Holland 112
6. Carlo Ancelotti Italy 108
7. Luiz Scolari Brazil 101
Marcelo Bielsa Argentina 101
9. Rafael Benitez Spain 97
10. Marcello Lippi Italy 88
I don't even think he is the best but its clear to see your claim is laughable.
French trophies and FA Cups? You're having a laugh
Getting results = major trophies
there are only 4 major trophies in existence.
I'm a big Wenger fan. Despite him being an abysmal failure in Europe.
But Anti-Liverpool banter and the English media's character assassination of Benitez has rotted your brain.
Show me the medals. Not from little domestic cups and 3rd tier leagues. Real medals.
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
French trophies and FA Cups? You're having a laugh
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Pretty sure he got medals for them.
Rafa did not get value for money. He paid low prices for players with low worth.
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Reina £6m - market value is probably about £15- 20m
Alonso £10m - sold for £32m
Agger- £5.6m - market value £10-£15m
Skrtel - £6m - market value £10-15m
Lucas - £6m - market value £10-15m
Maxi Free
Crouch £7m sold for £11m
Bellamy £6m sold for £8.5m
Sissoko £5.5m sold for £8.5m
We could also include Torres - relatively cheap for a world class striker at £24m sold for £50m.
That decent value for money and pretty profitable.
Of course there were the bad signings too.
there are only 4 major trophies in existence.
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And they are?
He would have won la liga too if he was Spanish. Why do you think he is Reals number one candidate?
FA cups don't count now? But I heard King Ken was the greatest for merely reaching the final?
I could chat about my admiration of Wenger for ages. He's a fantastic manager.
But as I said before, anti-Liverpool banter and the English media's character assassination of Benitez has rotted your brain.
Agger, Skrtel and Lucas have only increased in value due to age. Their original price was fair. As for Crouch, Bellamy and Sissoko, not really the players you want if your challenging for top honours are they?
Anelka, Pires, Henry, Vieira, Ljungberg, Clichy, Toure, Fabregas, RVP, Adebayor, Song, Vermaelan, Koscielny, Sagna, Lauren... All signed for under 10 million, and I could go on.
You don't for a second think Rafa is better than Wenger do you?
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Nobody said that, he just has a better collection of medals.
Believe me I don't listen to the media, I form my own opinions. Liverpool fans blindly support their own cause at all times.
If I had no money and wanted to qualify for the CL, I'd hire Wenger.
If I had a moderate amount of money and wanted to win the CL I'd hire Benitez.
Depends on your objectives really.
Both won multiple league titles in top leagues on vastly inferior money to those they overtook.
and the English media's character assassination of Benitez
...............
What English media's character assassination of Benitez?
Got to love you self pitty idiots.
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posted on 26/4/12
He would have had to have ben blind not to spot Silva, considering he played for Rafa at Valencia.
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No he didn't.
posted on 26/4/12
My mistake, yes he did, he was on loan
posted on 26/4/12
Rafa did not get value for money. He paid low prices for players with low worth. Wenger pays low prices for players with high worth. Just because the players were cheap doesn't make them good signings.
I have no jealousy to Rafa, that is laughable. If it wasn't for your CL win he would never be talked about. That is all he did.
posted on 26/4/12
Only got us to 2 finals and came second in the league.. yep awful manager..
posted on 26/4/12
Rafa has a better medal collection than Wenger.
You'd never know it from the 'fat spanish waiter' hating media and collective banter, but he does.
posted on 26/4/12
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 32 seconds ago
Rafa has a better medal collection than Wenger.
..........................
Are you sure about that?
posted on 26/4/12
positive
Wenger's got 3 prems, Rafa's got 2 La Liga's and a CL
Only a fool would rate the former higher.
posted on 26/4/12
Wenger has more medals, but he doesn have the European Cup or UEFA Medals. Or La Liga.
posted on 26/4/12
No need to lie bro. Wenger has 9 major honours, as opposed to Rafas 5
posted on 26/4/12
You don't for a second think Rafa is better than Wenger do you?
posted on 26/4/12
On a par with each other. Very different strengths and weaknesses
posted on 26/4/12
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 2 minutes ago
positive
Wenger's got 3 prems, Rafa's got 2 La Liga's and a CL
Only a fool would rate the former higher.
..............................
Rafa
2 x La Ligas, 1 x UEFA Cup, 1x CL 1x FA Cup
Arsene
1x French League 1x French Cup
3x EPL 4x FA Cup
Off you go now.
posted on 26/4/12
Liverpool fans really are something else. You all live in a scouse bubble.
Wenger spends less money, plays better football and consistently gets results. He won manager of the decade with these results;
IFFHS – Top 10 managers 2001-2010
1. Arsene Wenger France 156
2. Sir Alex Ferguson Scotland 148
3. Jose Mourinho Portugal 135
4. Fabio Capello Italy 120
5. Guus Hiddink Holland 112
6. Carlo Ancelotti Italy 108
7. Luiz Scolari Brazil 101
Marcelo Bielsa Argentina 101
9. Rafael Benitez Spain 97
10. Marcello Lippi Italy 88
I don't even think he is the best but its clear to see your claim is laughable.
posted on 26/4/12
French trophies and FA Cups? You're having a laugh
posted on 26/4/12
Getting results = major trophies
there are only 4 major trophies in existence.
I'm a big Wenger fan. Despite him being an abysmal failure in Europe.
But Anti-Liverpool banter and the English media's character assassination of Benitez has rotted your brain.
Show me the medals. Not from little domestic cups and 3rd tier leagues. Real medals.
posted on 26/4/12
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
French trophies and FA Cups? You're having a laugh
.......................
Pretty sure he got medals for them.
posted on 26/4/12
Rafa did not get value for money. He paid low prices for players with low worth.
-------------------
Reina £6m - market value is probably about £15- 20m
Alonso £10m - sold for £32m
Agger- £5.6m - market value £10-£15m
Skrtel - £6m - market value £10-15m
Lucas - £6m - market value £10-15m
Maxi Free
Crouch £7m sold for £11m
Bellamy £6m sold for £8.5m
Sissoko £5.5m sold for £8.5m
We could also include Torres - relatively cheap for a world class striker at £24m sold for £50m.
That decent value for money and pretty profitable.
Of course there were the bad signings too.
posted on 26/4/12
there are only 4 major trophies in existence.
.............
And they are?
posted on 26/4/12
He would have won la liga too if he was Spanish. Why do you think he is Reals number one candidate?
FA cups don't count now? But I heard King Ken was the greatest for merely reaching the final?
posted on 26/4/12
I could chat about my admiration of Wenger for ages. He's a fantastic manager.
But as I said before, anti-Liverpool banter and the English media's character assassination of Benitez has rotted your brain.
posted on 26/4/12
Agger, Skrtel and Lucas have only increased in value due to age. Their original price was fair. As for Crouch, Bellamy and Sissoko, not really the players you want if your challenging for top honours are they?
Anelka, Pires, Henry, Vieira, Ljungberg, Clichy, Toure, Fabregas, RVP, Adebayor, Song, Vermaelan, Koscielny, Sagna, Lauren... All signed for under 10 million, and I could go on.
posted on 26/4/12
You don't for a second think Rafa is better than Wenger do you?
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Nobody said that, he just has a better collection of medals.
posted on 26/4/12
Believe me I don't listen to the media, I form my own opinions. Liverpool fans blindly support their own cause at all times.
posted on 26/4/12
If I had no money and wanted to qualify for the CL, I'd hire Wenger.
If I had a moderate amount of money and wanted to win the CL I'd hire Benitez.
Depends on your objectives really.
Both won multiple league titles in top leagues on vastly inferior money to those they overtook.
posted on 26/4/12
and the English media's character assassination of Benitez
...............
What English media's character assassination of Benitez?
Got to love you self pitty idiots.
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