no conspiracies - but still un-believable decision. Just feel for hamilton, he gets everything in order, n then this.

i genuinely feel this is an in-justice

Gutted for Lewis. He just can't buy a break. No matter what he does it seems to go wrong.

Maybe you can bemoan the stewards for the harshness of the penalty, but Mclaren...what a joke. A team with 50 years experience, won more than 170 races, and they can't even fuel a car with enough for a sample.

If they were hoping to gain an unfair advantage then that's not only poor class, but moronic. You can't get anything past the stewards these days.

Agreed Ron Denis needs to look at Whitmarsh. It's just one foul up after another for Mclaren this season.

Under Whitmarsh Mclaren have become a joke they need to fire this man ASAP!

is it just me that are praising the FIA for this, the rules are there for a reason and rightly punished the McLaren TEAM for it, not just Hamilton.

Break the Rules and be punished

The stewards are not Spanish.

They are German Czech and Danish.

I hope Lewis blasts the entire race. His pit crew will obviously have to try harder to ruin things up but no doubt they will.

If we're gonna take a leaf from the book of tsheporam then I'll throw in this conspiracy...

1) I think we all know where the Spanish stand on Hamilton.

2) Penalizing Hamilton puts Alonso, a Ferrari driver, on the front row in front of his home crowd

WTCBU, what have the stewards got to do with it? Charlie Whiting pulls their strings and Bernie pulls his.
F1, sad to say as I am a fan, is the most corrupt sport on the planet after horse racing.

What did he get for? Turned the TV straight after qualifying to enable me to do study.

JustAnotherGunner

is it just me that are praising the FIA for this.

Yes.

You are obviously jumping on Lewis for breaking a rule that you did not even know existed.

Perhaps you could demonstrate your superior knowledge of F1 by explaining to us what punishments suit which particular infringements.

To be honest it gets embrassing for F1 as a whole really. I will call it closer to racial bais but i will rather say it's victimisation. Never have i heard of a penalty like that. Seems to be conjured out of thin air. Did Vettel not part his car right after winning the Bahrain Grand Prix? Was there an official enquiry?

Lewis is a white dominated sport with the white coporate world behind it and unfortunately there will always be bias against him. For example, i thought in Bahrain he could have been punished after the race over the Roseberg incident but seeing Alonso was involved with similar incident with Roseberg, they would have to punish Roseberg as well and guess what, they went with a warning.

A driver produces a stunning lap to claim victory and due to the ever incompetence of his team and he is demoted back to the grid to start last. Why don't just they ban him from the sport and say : " Sorry, No blacks allowed" ?

Hamilton and Mclaren have been reprimanded for this before http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/06/hamilton-pole-in-canada-breaks-red-bull-stranglehold/ and this makes me think that it wasn't an honest blunder but a team trying to gain an advantage by manipulating the rules.

If that is the case (and the stewards must have felt it was) then the penalty is justified, although I personally felt he would get a 5 place penalty.
Hash for Hamilton as I suspect it was the teams doing rather than something he requested.

Thats the FIA's job not mine.

Maybe if Hamilton had continued to the pits rather than try to con the FIA they wouldn't have been so harsh on him or his team.
Stopping out on track and cheating other teams by trying to get away with under fueling the car is disgusting. FACT

WTCBU,

I agree with giving Hamilton a penalty, but dropping him to 24th is ridiculous.

I read that the normal penalty for this is either a 5 place penalty or having the lap time cancelled.

Either one would drop him to 6th.

Great analyst - are you for real? How is parking your car at the end of a race the same as not returning to the pits because if you had you would have not had enough fuel left for the required FIA testing?

Mclaren know the rules and I do not buy that it was a technical error that resulted in the car being under fueled as Mclaren have previous in this area (see my post above)

(U10925)

we are on the same wavelength, thank goodness

I agree with Great_Analyst.
It's not like he drove dangerously or endangered another driver. That's the sort of thing you might expect to see incur such a harsh penalty. A technical infringement caused by the team rather than the driver, which would not have affected the result as he was miles quicker, to incur that penalty is unbelievable.
It will generate a lot of discussion and controversy but then Bernie's probably very happy about that.

JustAnotherGunner a perfect example of the glorified idiots i well documented in my post. Perhaps did the genius in you read the articles on this which clearly stated Mclaren told him to stop the car? Or does Lewis have a fuel indicator in his car to see he is short?

I wouldn't mind a penalty either but demoting him to last seems very suspicious for me to be honest. People can deny it all they want to make themselve seem part of a new civilised society but racial bias still exist.

TaU i agree with you, however I think as JustAnother says if Hamilton had returned to the pits and not had enough fuel for testing he would have got the 5 place penalty.
Instead though Mclaren chose to stop him out on track and the stewards may be making an example of them to let other teams know you cannot get away with under fueling in quali to gain an advantage.

Goodness sake has nobody considered he tried to cheat the system with stopping out on track when in actual fact he had enough fuel to get to the pits but did not do so as it would have been under the regulations?

I hear the school bus a'callin, better run for it because the majority of yous have just been schooled

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Great analyst - are you for real? How is parking your car at the end of a race the same as not returning to the pits because if you had you would have not had enough fuel left for the required FIA testing



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Confirms my suspicion you clearly have no clue about the rules. Fuel testing is not only done after qualifying but after the race as well where the cars are supposed to bring it in for fuel test but obviously why would they investigate the reason Vettel packed his car soon after crossing the line. He is a double world champion and white. Fits the profile perfectly.

You are Racist for thinking the FIA is racist

I have no problem with that. At least i won't deny being a racist should it be beyond doubt that i am. Exactly the case we are seeing with the treatment of Lewis.

JustAnotherGunner, putting driver allegiances aside, don't you think that penalty was incredibly harsh?

"Great analyst - are you for real? How is parking your car at the end of a race the same as not returning to the pits because if you had you would have not had enough fuel left for the required FIA testing?"

You're a moron.