i was going to make an article on this. shows how much some people know.
"Dutch coach Bert van Marwijk has expressed an interest in the vacancy and would be willing to work under his compatriot"
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If there was any truth in this, than that would be a mouth watering prospect for me
Suarez7
Justcreated an article on that!
Koptalk have been reporting that rogers would come if we made an offer. It makes sense as if he went for talks and didnt get the job, it would damage his relationship with the clubs supporters.
Winch master
Agreed, that applies for most managers as well
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He rejected the chance to talk to us, so why should he be given another chance?
He rejected the talks when there where 12 people in the running as it would seem disrespectful to his current club. Anybody could see that! If he's actually offered the job, he'd jump at and that goes for most people!
But why should we offer the job who doesn't want to have talks with us, and try and persuade FSG that he is the right man for the job?
Maybe it's just me and I'm using the real working world as an example, but if there was a top job that I was interested, I would do anything to try and get it which includes meeting up with the my potential bosses at every given opportunity.
But why should we offer the job who doesn't want to have talks with us, and try and persuade FSG that he is the right man for the job?
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Because of the backwards way that your owners have gone about this process, I don't blame Rodgers for rejecting the chance to attend an interview for the job. It's not how football manager recruitment works.
Clubs identify their man & then go & try to land him. Not draw up a list of 'potential' managers & ask them to come for a chat. For those who did choose to come for an interview & then didn't get the job, it would totally undermine their position at their own clubs.
Any manager worth his salt would tell you to go & do one, at that suggestion.
comment by Toblerone Boots (U4965)
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I disagree. As with most jobs in life, you identify the best candidates for a role and you interview them. You don't put all your eggs in one basket.
I disagree. As with most jobs in life, you identify the best candidates for a role and you interview them. You don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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Football management isn't like "most jobs in life"
There's a reason that selection of managers is carried out in the manner that it is & by going against convention, your owners have shown their total ignorance of how the game works. I can't remember another club ever having taken this sort of approach............I wonder why
Fair enough but you don't know that other clubs don't do that. In fact you don't know what LFC are doing because FSG have kept very quiet on this whole situation. You say the owners have shown total ignorance of how the game works but probably know more about the game than you do. Why - because they are actually doing it and are more involved in the processes of how to run a club, where you are just speculating based on tabloids, as do most football fans.
In further news, Swansea have agreed a deal worth Sigurdsson for £7.2m - I think the owners would be a bit annoyed that they sanction a deal for Rodgers and he leaves ...
Fair enough but you don't know that other clubs don't do that. In fact you don't know what LFC are doing because FSG have kept very quiet on this whole situation. You say the owners have shown total ignorance of how the game works but probably know more about the game than you do. Why - because they are actually doing it and are more involved in the processes of how to run a club, where you are just speculating based on tabloids, as do most football fans.
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Know more than me?
Someone who's followed football for 33 years? lol
By their own admission they knew precisely nothing about the game until they were offered LFC & it shows.
I do know that other clubs "don't do that". When have you ever heard of a football club approaching another club for permission for their manager to attend an interview?
Answers on a postcard.
comment by Toblerone Boots (U4965)
I meant 'know more than you' with regards to the running of a football club.
You said they know "how the game works" better than me, which their actions show is patently not the case.
I suppose your countless years of running a football club, appointing managers, negotiating contracts, sponsorship deals, other commercial deals, partnerships means you're more qualified than our owners.
Sorry - didn't mean to come across as condescending! But my point is that they have more experience of running a high profile club than you do. Unless you're David Gill in disguise?
The media have an agenda, which during this process has become apparent.
They have basically trawled around europe, asking the world and his wife if they would accept the Liverpool job, to fuel their silly little, Liverpool rejected once again editorials.
I understand the frustration of fans, as we would all like a conclusion to the search for a new manager, sooner rather than later, but at the same time, we need to be as sure as possible, that the person, or persons coming in, are right for the job, hopefully for the next 5 years or so.
Regarding the owners approach toward hiring the right man, it would seem that the whole structure is likely to change, in terms of having a technical director, who would advise any new manager has regards available transfer targets, and the footballing structure within the club.
So it makes obvious sense to have a number of options, in terms of candidates, who must be sounded out, as to whether or not, they would be willing to work under a regime, such as the one that is likely to be put in place in the next few weeks.
As for posters on 606, who believe they know more about running a football club, and the best way to go about making appointments, they might be better advised to offer this advise to their own clubs, and leave the business of football, to the men who spend 7 days a week involved in this line of work, and whose own money is at stake, regarding the success or failings of their decisions.
lfc-009 he needs to get his daily dig at liverpool in
but seriously, we wanted them to do everything behind closed doors when they first arrived, and on that front they have done exactly that.
How do we actually know what is going, apart from Rodgers who was approached i thought the rest hadn't been approached and were responding to rumours.
swansea chairmen has just said it is pure speculation as well by the way!
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ok so the term interview is not used in football, but it might just be a easy word to describe contacting or approaching a manager.
Clubs dont just turn up and say heres a contract to become our manager hope you accept it. Without talking about a lot of things first come on guys.
They all speak to their candidate/s, call it an interview or w.e it doesnt matter its the same thing when it comes to football.
FSG want their candidates to go and meet them, like most clubs meet their potential new managers, some might do it over the phone etc but at the end of the days the same things are generally said and asked.
Having said that clubs dont usually have so many candidates to get through, and have a more clear idea of what and who they want.
But given Liverpools situation and the managers that have previously came and gone, they need their own man, a unique man to fit their somewhat complicated plans. Theres nothing wrong with it imo, but from another club/managers point of view, i would also be put off by the fact its in the media they are wanting to talk to 8 managers, when you have a good promising job like Rodgers at Swansea, if he went for it and didnt get it, then hes back at Swansea with the club and supporters doubting him.
i find it strange how everyone is saying fsg are making a mess of this. Comparing to other manager situations, how are they messing it up?
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posted on 27/5/12
i was going to make an article on this. shows how much some people know.
posted on 27/5/12
"Dutch coach Bert van Marwijk has expressed an interest in the vacancy and would be willing to work under his compatriot"
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If there was any truth in this, than that would be a mouth watering prospect for me
posted on 27/5/12
Suarez7
Justcreated an article on that!
posted on 27/5/12
Koptalk have been reporting that rogers would come if we made an offer. It makes sense as if he went for talks and didnt get the job, it would damage his relationship with the clubs supporters.
posted on 27/5/12
Winch master
Agreed, that applies for most managers as well
posted on 27/5/12
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posted on 28/5/12
He rejected the chance to talk to us, so why should he be given another chance?
posted on 28/5/12
He rejected the talks when there where 12 people in the running as it would seem disrespectful to his current club. Anybody could see that! If he's actually offered the job, he'd jump at and that goes for most people!
posted on 28/5/12
But why should we offer the job who doesn't want to have talks with us, and try and persuade FSG that he is the right man for the job?
Maybe it's just me and I'm using the real working world as an example, but if there was a top job that I was interested, I would do anything to try and get it which includes meeting up with the my potential bosses at every given opportunity.
posted on 28/5/12
But why should we offer the job who doesn't want to have talks with us, and try and persuade FSG that he is the right man for the job?
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Because of the backwards way that your owners have gone about this process, I don't blame Rodgers for rejecting the chance to attend an interview for the job. It's not how football manager recruitment works.
Clubs identify their man & then go & try to land him. Not draw up a list of 'potential' managers & ask them to come for a chat. For those who did choose to come for an interview & then didn't get the job, it would totally undermine their position at their own clubs.
Any manager worth his salt would tell you to go & do one, at that suggestion.
posted on 28/5/12
comment by Toblerone Boots (U4965)
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I disagree. As with most jobs in life, you identify the best candidates for a role and you interview them. You don't put all your eggs in one basket.
posted on 28/5/12
I disagree. As with most jobs in life, you identify the best candidates for a role and you interview them. You don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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Football management isn't like "most jobs in life"
There's a reason that selection of managers is carried out in the manner that it is & by going against convention, your owners have shown their total ignorance of how the game works. I can't remember another club ever having taken this sort of approach............I wonder why
posted on 28/5/12
Fair enough but you don't know that other clubs don't do that. In fact you don't know what LFC are doing because FSG have kept very quiet on this whole situation. You say the owners have shown total ignorance of how the game works but probably know more about the game than you do. Why - because they are actually doing it and are more involved in the processes of how to run a club, where you are just speculating based on tabloids, as do most football fans.
In further news, Swansea have agreed a deal worth Sigurdsson for £7.2m - I think the owners would be a bit annoyed that they sanction a deal for Rodgers and he leaves ...
posted on 28/5/12
Fair enough but you don't know that other clubs don't do that. In fact you don't know what LFC are doing because FSG have kept very quiet on this whole situation. You say the owners have shown total ignorance of how the game works but probably know more about the game than you do. Why - because they are actually doing it and are more involved in the processes of how to run a club, where you are just speculating based on tabloids, as do most football fans.
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Know more than me?
Someone who's followed football for 33 years? lol
By their own admission they knew precisely nothing about the game until they were offered LFC & it shows.
I do know that other clubs "don't do that". When have you ever heard of a football club approaching another club for permission for their manager to attend an interview?
Answers on a postcard.
posted on 28/5/12
comment by Toblerone Boots (U4965)
I meant 'know more than you' with regards to the running of a football club.
posted on 28/5/12
You said they know "how the game works" better than me, which their actions show is patently not the case.
posted on 28/5/12
I suppose your countless years of running a football club, appointing managers, negotiating contracts, sponsorship deals, other commercial deals, partnerships means you're more qualified than our owners.
posted on 28/5/12
Sorry - didn't mean to come across as condescending! But my point is that they have more experience of running a high profile club than you do. Unless you're David Gill in disguise?
posted on 28/5/12
The media have an agenda, which during this process has become apparent.
They have basically trawled around europe, asking the world and his wife if they would accept the Liverpool job, to fuel their silly little, Liverpool rejected once again editorials.
I understand the frustration of fans, as we would all like a conclusion to the search for a new manager, sooner rather than later, but at the same time, we need to be as sure as possible, that the person, or persons coming in, are right for the job, hopefully for the next 5 years or so.
Regarding the owners approach toward hiring the right man, it would seem that the whole structure is likely to change, in terms of having a technical director, who would advise any new manager has regards available transfer targets, and the footballing structure within the club.
So it makes obvious sense to have a number of options, in terms of candidates, who must be sounded out, as to whether or not, they would be willing to work under a regime, such as the one that is likely to be put in place in the next few weeks.
As for posters on 606, who believe they know more about running a football club, and the best way to go about making appointments, they might be better advised to offer this advise to their own clubs, and leave the business of football, to the men who spend 7 days a week involved in this line of work, and whose own money is at stake, regarding the success or failings of their decisions.
posted on 28/5/12
lfc-009 he needs to get his daily dig at liverpool in
but seriously, we wanted them to do everything behind closed doors when they first arrived, and on that front they have done exactly that.
How do we actually know what is going, apart from Rodgers who was approached i thought the rest hadn't been approached and were responding to rumours.
posted on 28/5/12
swansea chairmen has just said it is pure speculation as well by the way!
posted on 28/5/12
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posted on 28/5/12
would love klopp!
posted on 28/5/12
ok so the term interview is not used in football, but it might just be a easy word to describe contacting or approaching a manager.
Clubs dont just turn up and say heres a contract to become our manager hope you accept it. Without talking about a lot of things first come on guys.
They all speak to their candidate/s, call it an interview or w.e it doesnt matter its the same thing when it comes to football.
FSG want their candidates to go and meet them, like most clubs meet their potential new managers, some might do it over the phone etc but at the end of the days the same things are generally said and asked.
Having said that clubs dont usually have so many candidates to get through, and have a more clear idea of what and who they want.
But given Liverpools situation and the managers that have previously came and gone, they need their own man, a unique man to fit their somewhat complicated plans. Theres nothing wrong with it imo, but from another club/managers point of view, i would also be put off by the fact its in the media they are wanting to talk to 8 managers, when you have a good promising job like Rodgers at Swansea, if he went for it and didnt get it, then hes back at Swansea with the club and supporters doubting him.
posted on 28/5/12
i find it strange how everyone is saying fsg are making a mess of this. Comparing to other manager situations, how are they messing it up?
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