Do any of you Liverpool fans think the players you've signed actually improve your team?

Henderson - No better than Lucas

Adam - Only excels at set-pieces

Carroll - Not a patch on Torres at his best

Suarez - Admittedly decent signing

Downing - Can't get into an awful England side, best player in a side who have just avoided relegation
__________________________________________

Henderson - bright talent and one for the future. By the way, Lucas is a very good player.

Adam - very good range of passing and as you say, also excels at set pieces, which can never be underestimated.

Carroll - a different option, showed that we can play well with him in the team against Man City (just about the only time he was fully fit).

Downing - a natural left winger which we badly need, and can supply excellent delivery into the box, which can only help the likes of Carroll.

Yeah and the likes of Lampard is absolute tripe because he was only brought in from West Ham.

------------------
We bought Xabi Alonso from Real Sociedad, they're a mid table team.

Wonder what became of him?

"Because you aren't good enough.
______________________________________

That's a pathetic effort."

Effort? What more do I need to elaborate on? Your defence is poor. You captain is past it. Your new signings are unproven at the highest level. You have finished midtable 2 seasons running and have not made any signings to indicate that will change. Your only world class player is your goalkeeper. I don't know why it is so difficult for you lot to understand that. When has a team gone from 6th in the PL to winning it the next season? The closest thing to that happening was United going from 3rd to 1st the next season. What makes you think the likes of Henderson and Downing is going to change that statistic?

Seriously, there are so many reasons why Liverpool will not challenge for the league, never mind win it that you don't even have to think of them and I feel foolish here for actually giving you an answer rather than doing what everybody else has done at laugh at the utter delusion of the OP and all those that agree with him.

Do you worry about becoming one-dimensional with Carroll up top? Do you think the players may just lump it up to him and hope he gets a decent touch?

I have the same fear when we play Drogba, some of our play was so predictable and easy to defend last season so we resorted to hoof and pray.

We bought Xabi Alonso from Real Sociedad, they're a mid table team.

Wonder what became of him?
----------------------------------------------

Yeah he must be awful as well lol, oh wait no he left Liverpool, so that would make him World Class now.

Things are looking much, much better than they did this time last year. Will we win the league on the back of our improvement under Kenny and our approximate £45m expenditure under the new owners?... I seriously doubt it.

As fans we need to be realistic. We should be looking to seriously compete for a top 4 finish and have at least one good cup run.

Anything else would be a bonus, but certainly not to be expected.

I hope you're right and if you are, there will be one hell of a lot of humble pie to be eaten from many on these boards. Even if we were to scrape 4th this will apply.

Your defence is poor.
-------------------------------

An Arsenal fan calling our defence poor. This guy is seriously deluded.

"An Arsenal fan calling our defence poor. This guy is seriously deluded."

I'm not claiming we will compete for or win the league though, am I? Dimwit

Jolly

Poor mans Holland....that's a good discription I won't be surprised if Holloway gets them back in the Premiership again soon. They will probably meet Hogson on the way down!

Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
-----------------------

I agree, is that a copy and paste job, swear I've seen that before. But then again, I guess you have to keep repeating yourself to some of these muppets who litter the Liverpool board with utter rubbish.

"An Arsenal fan calling our defence poor. This guy is seriously deluded"

exactly what has that got to do with this?

How many times has teams gone from 3rd to 1st and won the league in recent times? let alone 6th to 1st.

Us in 2010 and Man.Utd in 2003 are the only teams i can think off that have jumped from 3rd to win it.

Well according the genius Rafa Benitez Alonso was no better than Gareth Barry

Am sorry but how are Henderson and Adam an improvement? Meireles was your best player last season, why are you looking to replace him with Adam, the standout performer on a relegated Blakpool side

And if Henderson and Downing are genuinely good enough to turn mid table teams into title challengers then why weren't they able to do that with Villa and Sunderland?

Effort? What more do I need to elaborate on? Your defence is poor. You captain is past it. Your new signings are unproven at the highest level. You have finished midtable 2 seasons running and have not made any signings to indicate that will change. Your only world class player is your goalkeeper. I don't know why it is so difficult for you lot to understand that. When has a team gone from 6th in the PL to winning it the next season? The closest thing to that happening was United going from 3rd to 1st the next season. What makes you think the likes of Henderson and Downing is going to change that statistic?

Seriously, there are so many reasons why Liverpool will not challenge for the league, never mind win it that you don't even have to think of them and I feel foolish here for actually giving you an answer rather than doing what everybody else has done at laugh at the utter delusion of the OP and all those that agree with him.
__________________________________________

Our defence, while admittedly not the best, is more than capable. There's no wonder that we conceded so many goals last season when over half of it was spent under Roy Hodgson.

Our captain is past it? He hasn't been great over the last couple of seasons but he is still class and now says he feels better than ever, so we will see how he fares this season. Even if he doesn't improve (which I'm sure he will), we now have players who can fill in, as shown in parts of last season.

Hardly any signings are proven at the highest level. Just because we're not signing players from the likes of Barcelona, Chelsea and Man Utd, that doesn't mean they are not good players. The players we have signed this summer are players who all have Premier League experience and all played well last season.

To say Reina is our only world class player is ridiculous. Gerrard is still class, and Suarez is most definitely world class. Plus, it's more about how we develop as a TEAM. Individual talent only makes up a part of it, but creating a team that works well as a unit is much more important.

And also, I'm not saying we're going to win the league! I specifically pointed that out I'm just saying that we can put in a challenge, although I do expect us to fall short.

I'm sorry, but you really must do better.

comment by BornABlue (U1716)


posted 1 minute ago


Sensible post, deserves a sensible answer.

I think if Carol was our only option up front, then, yes, we would be very one dimensional.

What Kenny and Steve are doing is giving us many options.

Don't forget, we were a ver potent attacking force when Carrol wasn't playing and we had Suarez and Kuyt up front.

The problem was that when AC did play, we weren't providing him with the right service, that is also being addressed.

I think it's fair to say that we had enough in the locker last year againdt the top team, our problem was when we played the lower half team and they parked the bus.

We needed more options.

This Liverpool squad of seasons ago would have ran away with the league last year. There is little doubt.

The team is minus Torres, Alonso, Mascha, Arbeloa & Beny & Riera.

We are up Suarez, Carroll, Johnson, Adam, Aquilani, Downing & Meireles, & more than likely a tidy leftback & a few promising young players.

In my opinion it can be persuasively argued that the elite players are not as good i.e Torres for Carroll but the squad certainly is & has more depth, options & balance.

Whether it can compete - again in my opinion - is more dependent on the Management team of Dalglish & Clarke.

Is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? No. Do I think it could happen? Maybe.

" our problem was when we played the lower half team and they parked the bus.

We needed more options. "

We had that problem when you came to the Bridge and played 5 defenders

We had that problem when you came to the Bridge and played 5 defenders
___________________________________________

Worked though didn't it

We're not going to come to Stamford Bridge and go all-out attack are we?

The best thing was we didn't even need Suarez to come on

I agree, is that a copy and paste job, swear I've seen that before. But then again, I guess you have to keep repeating yourself to some of these muppets who litter the Liverpool board with utter rubbish.

----------

Most of it is copied from a post I made earlier today, well spotted.

Some fans may get a little carried away and there is nothing wrong with that in my view. Considering how far we have progressed since this time last year and during the trials of G&H and Hodgson, it's no wonder we are very happy. This in my view can snowball to unrealistic expectations which I feel should be avoided. Some I guess are just happy to go with the roll.

Rival fans just can't seem to deal with the fact that the new owners are investing and that as a whole the club is now on a far more stable footing. It's just so obvious that it upsets them.

If we have a good season next season (by that I mean pushing for 4th spot) then I imagine a good few of them may spontaneously combust.

Cant believe this suarez is world class guff. Hes a very good player, a very clever player, but that is it, hes done nothing to prove he is world class, and by world class i mean one of the top 5-10 strikers in the world. Remember last season at the emirates he couldnt even keep the ball

Meireles was your best player last season, why are you looking to replace him with Adam, the standout performer on a relegated Blakpool side

And if Henderson and Downing are genuinely good enough to turn mid table teams into title challengers then why weren't they able to do that with Villa and Sunderland?
----------------------

More drivel.

For a start we are not looking to replace Meireles, and he has already stated he's staying, Adam and Henderson are players to ADD to the squad, hence improvement. Also remember that we have Aquilani back again now, so we have definitely improved, and still are looking to improve further before the window shuts.

One player can't turn a whole team into title challengers. That is just ludicrous. Now Henderson, Adam and Downing will be around much better players than they were before and will improve from learning from them.

"Our defence, while admittedly not the best, is more than capable. There's no wonder that we conceded so many goals last season when over half of it was spent under Roy Hodgson."

Capable? You conceded more goals than Fulham last season for god's sake.

"Our captain is past it? He hasn't been great over the last couple of seasons but he is still class and now says he feels better than ever, so we will see how he fares this season."

He feels better than ever? He must have been living a lot of his life in excrutiating pain then because there are currently doubts over his fitness for the start of this season. Face it, he has been on a downward slope for 2 years now and considering his age and injury problems it is very unlikely he will reach the earlier heights of his career.

"Hardly any signings are proven at the highest level. Just because we're not signing players from the likes of Barcelona, Chelsea and Man Utd, that doesn't mean they are not good players. The players we have signed this summer are players who all have Premier League experience and all played well last season."

That is true but the difference between your signings and signings that the other top clubs make is that the young signings look like they have potential to be top players (ie De Gea, David Luiz, Ramsey) whereas the prices you have paid for your signings do not reflect the potential that everybody outside Liverpool feels they have.

"To say Reina is our only world class player is ridiculous. Gerrard is still class, and Suarez is most definitely world class. Plus, it's more about how we develop as a TEAM. Individual talent only makes up a part of it, but creating a team that works well as a unit is much more important."

Suarez world class? Based on what?!?!?!?!?! And actually Gerrard still class? What is that based on too, he's showed glimpses of his old form maybe 2 or 3 times in the last 2 years yet that means he is world class. Seriously

"And also, I'm not saying we're going to win the league! I specifically pointed that out I'm just saying that we can put in a challenge, although I do expect us to fall short."

And I am saying that you will NOT even challenge. 4th place at best and that will only happen if Cesc and Nasri pull a runner.

Where has little-ish gone?
Beddy bies.
Tell mummy to let you stay up later whn the hols start.

We had that problem when you came to the Bridge and played 5 defenders

========================================

Didn't see the game then? You were overun in midfield & we played 3 at the back for most of the game.

Rival fans just can't seem to deal with the fact that the new owners are investing and that as a whole the club is now on a far more stable footing. It's just so obvious that it upsets them.
---------------------

You speak a lot of sense!