I don't work at the club so I cannot definitely speak about the logic behind the statement, what I can however do, is to give opinions on why the club released a statement.
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Yes, we can all make things up as to why they issued a statement. It may have been because Fergie bet Malcolm Glazer he couldn’t come up with a random statement with a particular set of letters in it.
It may be that all of their apologies are insincere.
Or it may have been because the apology was sincere, and they were sorry
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For the umpteeth time, there are people who believe such in regards to Man U,
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Yes, I’ve already grasped that, Denis, and I’m saying they’re nuts, because it’s a far-fetched association based on the fact that it has 3 letters in common.
I’ve never met anybody who thinks it’s any more of an insult than ‘Man City’, and I’ve heard United fans using it.
It’s an abbreviation, ffs.
I’ve never met anybody who thinks it’s any more of an insult than ‘Man City’, and I’ve heard United fans using it.
It’s an abbreviation, ffs.
***
the origins of man U are well documented. just because people are ignorant of it doesn't excuse them.
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just got back from work is this still going
thank bejeezus for that, ut was embarrasing earlier and im sure it continued in the same vein
just got back from work is this still going
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Yes, but the tone of it's changed.
It's now turned into a a bizarre but entertaining set of logical contortions and nutty claims, such as the claim that 'Man U' originated as some kind iof deranged and far-fetched insult.
It's now turned into a a bizarre but entertaining set of logical contortions and nutty claims, such as the claim that 'Man U' originated as some kind iof deranged and far-fetched insult.
**
you are been slightly ignorant with that comment. The fact that it does insult some united fans especially the old ones, who remember the 50s, then thats all you need to know.
comment by Kemlyn Road (U10652)
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I've never been convinced on that either. 20 years of supporting United and I'd never heard it, 20 mins on BBC 606 and I'd heard it 5 times.
i hadnt heard of most things until a teacher educated me
First I heard of it was on here. It's quite silly. Anyhow I have no idea why anybody would refer to them as Man U.
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 53 seconds ago
i hadnt heard of most things until a teacher educated me
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My dad is a lifelong United fan, so is his brother and his uncle. I couldn't have had many more teachers yet find it all bollox when people get upset by it.
you are been slightly ignorant with that comment. ========================================
No, I'm not.
Have a look at Towton's link. It's not "well documented" at all, is it?.
"If you scour the internet for proof of this, or a source, or indeed anything to back this up, you'll inevitably only be confronted with this masterpiece of the English language, posted and re-posted word for word on various forums and what nots. There's even bizarrely a facebook group, despite this being almost entirely the only source of evidence or opinion".
I"t is (and I can't stress this enough) complete b0l0x."
"Even if you bypass the bizarre logic of "u" being offensive because it's meant to imply "you", the main problem with this theory is its terrible grasp of history"
"The term Man U was created entirely by the news reporters of the 40s and 50s"
So, it's just the same ridiculous rumour, posted word for word around various internet sites, and with nothing else to back it up except its own self-justifying claim.
That is not the definition of “well documented”.
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The fact that it does insult some united fans especially the old ones,
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Well, I've never met any of them....and reading that link, it seems much more likely that it's younger loonies, spreading things around t'internet and then believing them because they're on t'internet.
The same happened with another far-fetched and untenable claim, that Celtic first sang YNWA. It's the young loonies on t'internet that believe it , not the older ones who were there, and know it's b0l0x.
I think that's game, set and match right there.
Looks like the OP tossed a hand grenade in, and walked off.
Either that, or realised that repeatedly countering an argument with "your only 10 years old", doesn't really present yourself in a favourable light.
Well, I've never met any of them...
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therefore they dont exist.
Typical 606 football didn't exist before 1992 attitude. They don't in general go on the internet so they don't have a voice on here.
Typical 606 football didn't exist before 1992 attitude.
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Oh, I see what you mean, there...
"The term Man U was created entirely by the news reporters of the 40s and 50s"
"Well-documented" my ass,
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They don't in general go on the internet
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Who don't? Older people?
How the feck do you know that?
Who don't? Older people?
How the feck do you know that?
***
you would be stupid to think that over 60s populated this forum or any forum like this
you would be stupid to think that over 60s populated this forum or any forum like this
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Wouldn't have a clue. I saw a few on the old 606...
comment by Red Mamba _ Kop in Kenya _ User 1282 (U13041)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
Some one explain why United issued a statement condemning the chants if it wasn't about Hillsborough. Have they issued similar statements every other time the chants have occurred? If not then there's your answer.
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You mean like how Suarez, Kenny and Ayres issued an apology over Suarez not shaking hands? I've been as polite as I can be to you in this thread but so are somewhat of a hypocrit it must be said.
There have been breaks when it wasnt sung. However, we were not in a period before last week where it was not being sung and it was being sung because of the Evra/Suarez affair.
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That's the kind of bizarre contortion of logic I was looking for, Elvis. Thanks for that.
The truth is that you have nohing other than this bit of logical gymnastics to fall back on. In the week after the Hillsborough events, even non-Liverpool fans will draw their own conclusions, and that's why MUFC issued an apology.
I don't think you're the kind of poster who'd justify it, Elvis, and I believe most United fans would comdemn it.....but you are trying to mitigate it, and at the very least, you can't possibly know that it didn't refer to Hillsborough..
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You clearly have read my earlier posts properly and I cant be bothered going back over it.
I've read some seriously sick comments from Manchester United fans (from Manchester) regarding plans for the Anfield game next week.
Some suggesting that they'll burn the JFT96 flag to signing more songs about Hillsborough.
I condemn anyone who sings songs like these about ANY club and these people should be banned and ARRESTED for public order offences.
You mean like how Suarez, Kenny and Ayres issued an apology over Suarez not shaking hands? I've been as polite as I can be to you in this thread but so are somewhat of a hypocrite it must be said.
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No one cried out for United to issue an apology on this one like they did with Pool. For us it was an apology or bust. You guys just volunteered your apology??? You can't really compare the two situations IMO.
Also I've been polite to you too. I think its daft that you are defending the chants same way you think I am daft for suggesting Suarez did not instigate the shake thing. You talk like you think you are doing me a favour. Clearly you are not.
Javier
God forbid it!!!!!! Should be a rather small minority of the Man U nation doing it though.
How did this get 350 comments?
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posted on 17/9/12
I don't work at the club so I cannot definitely speak about the logic behind the statement, what I can however do, is to give opinions on why the club released a statement.
=========================================
Yes, we can all make things up as to why they issued a statement. It may have been because Fergie bet Malcolm Glazer he couldn’t come up with a random statement with a particular set of letters in it.
It may be that all of their apologies are insincere.
Or it may have been because the apology was sincere, and they were sorry
=========================================
For the umpteeth time, there are people who believe such in regards to Man U,
=========================================
Yes, I’ve already grasped that, Denis, and I’m saying they’re nuts, because it’s a far-fetched association based on the fact that it has 3 letters in common.
I’ve never met anybody who thinks it’s any more of an insult than ‘Man City’, and I’ve heard United fans using it.
It’s an abbreviation, ffs.
posted on 17/9/12
I’ve never met anybody who thinks it’s any more of an insult than ‘Man City’, and I’ve heard United fans using it.
It’s an abbreviation, ffs.
***
the origins of man U are well documented. just because people are ignorant of it doesn't excuse them.
posted on 17/9/12
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posted on 17/9/12
just got back from work is this still going
posted on 17/9/12
Not now, you killed it
posted on 17/9/12
thank bejeezus for that, ut was embarrasing earlier and im sure it continued in the same vein
posted on 17/9/12
just got back from work is this still going
===========================================
Yes, but the tone of it's changed.
It's now turned into a a bizarre but entertaining set of logical contortions and nutty claims, such as the claim that 'Man U' originated as some kind iof deranged and far-fetched insult.
posted on 17/9/12
It's now turned into a a bizarre but entertaining set of logical contortions and nutty claims, such as the claim that 'Man U' originated as some kind iof deranged and far-fetched insult.
**
you are been slightly ignorant with that comment. The fact that it does insult some united fans especially the old ones, who remember the 50s, then thats all you need to know.
posted on 17/9/12
comment by Kemlyn Road (U10652)
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I've never been convinced on that either. 20 years of supporting United and I'd never heard it, 20 mins on BBC 606 and I'd heard it 5 times.
posted on 17/9/12
i hadnt heard of most things until a teacher educated me
posted on 17/9/12
First I heard of it was on here. It's quite silly. Anyhow I have no idea why anybody would refer to them as Man U.
posted on 17/9/12
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 53 seconds ago
i hadnt heard of most things until a teacher educated me
----------------
My dad is a lifelong United fan, so is his brother and his uncle. I couldn't have had many more teachers yet find it all bollox when people get upset by it.
posted on 17/9/12
you are been slightly ignorant with that comment. ========================================
No, I'm not.
Have a look at Towton's link. It's not "well documented" at all, is it?.
"If you scour the internet for proof of this, or a source, or indeed anything to back this up, you'll inevitably only be confronted with this masterpiece of the English language, posted and re-posted word for word on various forums and what nots. There's even bizarrely a facebook group, despite this being almost entirely the only source of evidence or opinion".
I"t is (and I can't stress this enough) complete b0l0x."
"Even if you bypass the bizarre logic of "u" being offensive because it's meant to imply "you", the main problem with this theory is its terrible grasp of history"
"The term Man U was created entirely by the news reporters of the 40s and 50s"
So, it's just the same ridiculous rumour, posted word for word around various internet sites, and with nothing else to back it up except its own self-justifying claim.
That is not the definition of “well documented”.
=========================================
The fact that it does insult some united fans especially the old ones,
=========================================
Well, I've never met any of them....and reading that link, it seems much more likely that it's younger loonies, spreading things around t'internet and then believing them because they're on t'internet.
The same happened with another far-fetched and untenable claim, that Celtic first sang YNWA. It's the young loonies on t'internet that believe it , not the older ones who were there, and know it's b0l0x.
posted on 17/9/12
I think that's game, set and match right there.
posted on 17/9/12
Looks like the OP tossed a hand grenade in, and walked off.
Either that, or realised that repeatedly countering an argument with "your only 10 years old", doesn't really present yourself in a favourable light.
posted on 17/9/12
Well, I've never met any of them...
***
therefore they dont exist.
Typical 606 football didn't exist before 1992 attitude. They don't in general go on the internet so they don't have a voice on here.
posted on 17/9/12
Typical 606 football didn't exist before 1992 attitude.
==========================================
Oh, I see what you mean, there...
"The term Man U was created entirely by the news reporters of the 40s and 50s"
"Well-documented" my ass,
=========================================
They don't in general go on the internet
========================================
Who don't? Older people?
How the feck do you know that?
posted on 17/9/12
Who don't? Older people?
How the feck do you know that?
***
you would be stupid to think that over 60s populated this forum or any forum like this
posted on 17/9/12
you would be stupid to think that over 60s populated this forum or any forum like this
===========================================
Wouldn't have a clue. I saw a few on the old 606...
posted on 17/9/12
comment by Red Mamba _ Kop in Kenya _ User 1282 (U13041)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
Some one explain why United issued a statement condemning the chants if it wasn't about Hillsborough. Have they issued similar statements every other time the chants have occurred? If not then there's your answer.
----------------
You mean like how Suarez, Kenny and Ayres issued an apology over Suarez not shaking hands? I've been as polite as I can be to you in this thread but so are somewhat of a hypocrit it must be said.
posted on 17/9/12
There have been breaks when it wasnt sung. However, we were not in a period before last week where it was not being sung and it was being sung because of the Evra/Suarez affair.
================================================
That's the kind of bizarre contortion of logic I was looking for, Elvis. Thanks for that.
The truth is that you have nohing other than this bit of logical gymnastics to fall back on. In the week after the Hillsborough events, even non-Liverpool fans will draw their own conclusions, and that's why MUFC issued an apology.
I don't think you're the kind of poster who'd justify it, Elvis, and I believe most United fans would comdemn it.....but you are trying to mitigate it, and at the very least, you can't possibly know that it didn't refer to Hillsborough..
------------------
You clearly have read my earlier posts properly and I cant be bothered going back over it.
posted on 18/9/12
I've read some seriously sick comments from Manchester United fans (from Manchester) regarding plans for the Anfield game next week.
Some suggesting that they'll burn the JFT96 flag to signing more songs about Hillsborough.
I condemn anyone who sings songs like these about ANY club and these people should be banned and ARRESTED for public order offences.
posted on 18/9/12
You mean like how Suarez, Kenny and Ayres issued an apology over Suarez not shaking hands? I've been as polite as I can be to you in this thread but so are somewhat of a hypocrite it must be said.
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No one cried out for United to issue an apology on this one like they did with Pool. For us it was an apology or bust. You guys just volunteered your apology??? You can't really compare the two situations IMO.
Also I've been polite to you too. I think its daft that you are defending the chants same way you think I am daft for suggesting Suarez did not instigate the shake thing. You talk like you think you are doing me a favour. Clearly you are not.
posted on 18/9/12
Javier
God forbid it!!!!!! Should be a rather small minority of the Man U nation doing it though.
posted on 18/9/12
How did this get 350 comments?
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