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Hows the little fella doing Tez ? Snoozing away in a blue n white striped number ?
bryce, yeah hes doing great and hes had a few town clothes bought. a town vest that he wore on saturday, which i sent a pic of to htafcdotcom on twitter to which they congratulated me. hes also got a htfc baby grow hes not worn yet and about 4 town bibs. hes a full on little terrier.
sky have been asked to rethink the game...the league have been "asked" to rethink the game..
the police have made formal representations to both..
lets see how it goes..
if we do play, there will be lines of riot police, which would not be required on a saturday dinner time kick off..
was a stupid day and time to kick off, now its a very, very stupid day and time..
why not move it to saturday at 5.25 then there can be chaos long before and long after the match????
we have a section that cant be trusted and last friday confirmed that le-ds certainly do...
having it on sky will just have the effect of both sets of supporters who were "thinking" about going, now wont...
Id rather have a big crowd at the stadium than more watching it at home/pub etc..
sky will kill the game, eventually..
Hey steady on there big fella.....
You're cutting my 'supply line' off ......
up the kyber 'bart ammo & supplies
darn..
this government might change the law overnight to stop away fans, its changing the law overnight for other things that have become an embarrassment..
A government spokesman said "its because the public have to be able to trust the police" ???
This from a politician who nobody trusts????
I don't need convincing ....
I agree with Brycey. false flags 'n' all that...99% don't, (agree)
Just a question !
'IF'..They are banned from coming to the 'Pharm (or what ever it's called this week ) What's to stop 'them' getting tickets mixed in with our lot ? Would n't that be a bigger problem
This whole thing is a right mess - unfortunately.
And as for being able to 'trust the police'... same darn here !
I've been cut up twice by 'Traffic cops' this week alone.
real dangerous s - hit (not an exaggerated moan).
The arrogance of the Ego is alive and well here I can tell you. ,
i trust the police a million times more than i would ever trust a politician..
a labour mp has now "found" a witness to norman bettinson saying he was involved in a cover up...
parliamentary priviledge was "used"..to present this "evidence"..
say it outside love to a camera crew, show some guts...
We now are aware of lots of jimmys "victims" going to solicitors and lawyers whilst he was still alive.. The legal eagles all turned them away due to them being "very poor witnesses" and knowing a criminal prosecution would fail.. They all kept the details of these "complainants" and were sraight on the "compo bandwagon" as soon as he died..
Forget newsnight or the ITV investigation the solicitors etc were already forming civil suits long before anyone in the media was trying to bring it to light..
The statements will be as "similar" to each other as the south yorks police ones and nobody will give a damm..
No one is really looking at the real reasons why nothing was done earlier its all being deflected onto why a particular programme about him was shown at a particular time, its bollox..Why didnt the legal people approach the police before he died, why didnt they at least try and put something of a case together?? money thats why, they wouldnt get very much if at all...Even the no win no fee merchants would have chucked it out.. Powerfull people being able to get away with stuff does not make it right that other powers hold back untill they can get the "right result"...
very annoyed this morning..
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The power of the Law is proportionate to the size of your wallet . It's a rich man's world, and those riches buy anything you want or want to cover up.
An MP slags the Police off because he can't take his bike through the 'main gate' and the PM backs him...A protester exercising their legitimate right to protest is banged up straight away...and MP's bleat on about 'militants' and 'mindless yobs'...
Our society is broken.
We are finding 'corruption' and 'self interest' in nearly every walk of life now, at the highest levels...and there's probably a lot more yet to come. Meanwhile, Cameron and his cronies are blindly rowing their sinking boat towards the waterfall...
Anyway, back to football..........
towton..
if you believe something to be true, then say so..
dont hide behind "priviledge"...
does make you wonder where this person was for so long...
maybe he wouldnt have got the "backing" he has now to make that allegation???
maybe he wont make the allegation at all if bettinson is removed without him having to.. he cant prove it, he would lose and it would cost him a sh-tload..
unsubstantiated allegations......we can all make em...fortunately most of us still have to prove them allegations we dont have the "cover" that mps have..
by the way..
of all the police that have retired that were at hillsborough, how many, when forced to return and give evidence will just say "i cant recall"...???
I certainly would if it was me. I wouldnt be looking to save any of the bosses and I certainly wouldnt want the sh-t to drop near me..
Its a hammer to crack a nut, again.. a good number of officers still serving will confirm their statements have been "doctored", they wont know who by and when and we are back to square 1..
the crminal activity took place long after the day..the day was about human errors and circumstances(some long standing and totally avoidable).. narrow the whole thing to the possible/probable criminal activity or it will become a witch hunt and they will lose the target(s)...
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towton..
the allegation isnt being made by uk news or any other media..
they are reporting an allegation made under parliamentary priviledge..
they wouldnt have printed a word without it...
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its how mps get allegations they cant prove out into the media..without having to back them up or without having to take any sh-t if they are proved worthless...
makes no difference if its false or true...its now out there and the mp cannot suffer any legal consequences whichever way it goes..
its "smearing" without any comeback..
bettinson does not have that "priviledge" as we can all see now..
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he hasnt made a formal allegation...he has made a statement to an mp..who has made it part of parliamentary priviledge..
he would have to make a statement to police or via media/solicitor for it to to form part of a legal case against him for libel etc..
she has only stated his name in the commons.. she wont repeat his name outside...
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thats the problem towton..
at no point have i said i believed anyone???
the british public....oh dear...
standing up to be counted means just that..
not hiding...not smearing in the hope that the media pressure and the public pressure is brought to bear on an allegation that hasnt "legally" be made..
following wrong doings with further wrong doings is not a solution..
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posted on 22/10/12
Hows the little fella doing Tez ? Snoozing away in a blue n white striped number ?
posted on 22/10/12
bryce, yeah hes doing great and hes had a few town clothes bought. a town vest that he wore on saturday, which i sent a pic of to htafcdotcom on twitter to which they congratulated me. hes also got a htfc baby grow hes not worn yet and about 4 town bibs. hes a full on little terrier.
posted on 23/10/12
Gud lad!
posted on 23/10/12
sky have been asked to rethink the game...the league have been "asked" to rethink the game..
the police have made formal representations to both..
lets see how it goes..
if we do play, there will be lines of riot police, which would not be required on a saturday dinner time kick off..
was a stupid day and time to kick off, now its a very, very stupid day and time..
why not move it to saturday at 5.25 then there can be chaos long before and long after the match????
we have a section that cant be trusted and last friday confirmed that le-ds certainly do...
having it on sky will just have the effect of both sets of supporters who were "thinking" about going, now wont...
Id rather have a big crowd at the stadium than more watching it at home/pub etc..
sky will kill the game, eventually..
posted on 23/10/12
Hey steady on there big fella.....
You're cutting my 'supply line' off ......
up the kyber 'bart ammo & supplies
posted on 23/10/12
darn..
this government might change the law overnight to stop away fans, its changing the law overnight for other things that have become an embarrassment..
A government spokesman said "its because the public have to be able to trust the police" ???
This from a politician who nobody trusts????
posted on 23/10/12
I don't need convincing ....
I agree with Brycey. false flags 'n' all that...99% don't, (agree)
Just a question !
'IF'..They are banned from coming to the 'Pharm (or what ever it's called this week ) What's to stop 'them' getting tickets mixed in with our lot ? Would n't that be a bigger problem
This whole thing is a right mess - unfortunately.
And as for being able to 'trust the police'... same darn here !
I've been cut up twice by 'Traffic cops' this week alone.
real dangerous s - hit (not an exaggerated moan).
The arrogance of the Ego is alive and well here I can tell you. ,
posted on 23/10/12
i trust the police a million times more than i would ever trust a politician..
a labour mp has now "found" a witness to norman bettinson saying he was involved in a cover up...
parliamentary priviledge was "used"..to present this "evidence"..
say it outside love to a camera crew, show some guts...
We now are aware of lots of jimmys "victims" going to solicitors and lawyers whilst he was still alive.. The legal eagles all turned them away due to them being "very poor witnesses" and knowing a criminal prosecution would fail.. They all kept the details of these "complainants" and were sraight on the "compo bandwagon" as soon as he died..
Forget newsnight or the ITV investigation the solicitors etc were already forming civil suits long before anyone in the media was trying to bring it to light..
The statements will be as "similar" to each other as the south yorks police ones and nobody will give a damm..
No one is really looking at the real reasons why nothing was done earlier its all being deflected onto why a particular programme about him was shown at a particular time, its bollox..Why didnt the legal people approach the police before he died, why didnt they at least try and put something of a case together?? money thats why, they wouldnt get very much if at all...Even the no win no fee merchants would have chucked it out.. Powerfull people being able to get away with stuff does not make it right that other powers hold back untill they can get the "right result"...
very annoyed this morning..
posted on 23/10/12
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posted on 23/10/12
The power of the Law is proportionate to the size of your wallet . It's a rich man's world, and those riches buy anything you want or want to cover up.
An MP slags the Police off because he can't take his bike through the 'main gate' and the PM backs him...A protester exercising their legitimate right to protest is banged up straight away...and MP's bleat on about 'militants' and 'mindless yobs'...
Our society is broken.
We are finding 'corruption' and 'self interest' in nearly every walk of life now, at the highest levels...and there's probably a lot more yet to come. Meanwhile, Cameron and his cronies are blindly rowing their sinking boat towards the waterfall...
Anyway, back to football..........
posted on 23/10/12
towton..
if you believe something to be true, then say so..
dont hide behind "priviledge"...
does make you wonder where this person was for so long...
maybe he wouldnt have got the "backing" he has now to make that allegation???
maybe he wont make the allegation at all if bettinson is removed without him having to.. he cant prove it, he would lose and it would cost him a sh-tload..
unsubstantiated allegations......we can all make em...fortunately most of us still have to prove them allegations we dont have the "cover" that mps have..
posted on 23/10/12
by the way..
of all the police that have retired that were at hillsborough, how many, when forced to return and give evidence will just say "i cant recall"...???
I certainly would if it was me. I wouldnt be looking to save any of the bosses and I certainly wouldnt want the sh-t to drop near me..
Its a hammer to crack a nut, again.. a good number of officers still serving will confirm their statements have been "doctored", they wont know who by and when and we are back to square 1..
the crminal activity took place long after the day..the day was about human errors and circumstances(some long standing and totally avoidable).. narrow the whole thing to the possible/probable criminal activity or it will become a witch hunt and they will lose the target(s)...
posted on 23/10/12
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posted on 23/10/12
towton..
the allegation isnt being made by uk news or any other media..
they are reporting an allegation made under parliamentary priviledge..
they wouldnt have printed a word without it...
posted on 23/10/12
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posted on 23/10/12
its how mps get allegations they cant prove out into the media..without having to back them up or without having to take any sh-t if they are proved worthless...
posted on 23/10/12
makes no difference if its false or true...its now out there and the mp cannot suffer any legal consequences whichever way it goes..
its "smearing" without any comeback..
bettinson does not have that "priviledge" as we can all see now..
posted on 23/10/12
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posted on 23/10/12
he hasnt made a formal allegation...he has made a statement to an mp..who has made it part of parliamentary priviledge..
he would have to make a statement to police or via media/solicitor for it to to form part of a legal case against him for libel etc..
posted on 23/10/12
she has only stated his name in the commons.. she wont repeat his name outside...
posted on 23/10/12
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posted on 23/10/12
thats the problem towton..
at no point have i said i believed anyone???
the british public....oh dear...
posted on 23/10/12
standing up to be counted means just that..
not hiding...not smearing in the hope that the media pressure and the public pressure is brought to bear on an allegation that hasnt "legally" be made..
following wrong doings with further wrong doings is not a solution..
posted on 23/10/12
Hey 38, my work ID badge has his name on!
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