Let's be honest here.

Bebe so far this season for the reserves, apart from the odd moment here and there when he's beaten his man and in one instance four and put in a good cross or found someone with a good pass, has been quite poor. His crossing a lot of the time doesn't reach it's intended target and his shooting most of the time has been awful and that's putting it mildly.

For a player who cost £7.4 million, I'd expect him to be doing better for the reserves. That's obviously no fault of his own what the club paid for him of course, however at that level, he should really be doing better than he's done so far this season.

It would be great if he could prove the doubters (me being one of them) wrong, but I would be amazed if he's still at the club come the season after next or depending on how much improvement he shows this season, next.

What time was he subbed on and off?

It wasn't just Crawley. It was Wolves too where he might just have been worse.

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the wolves game where he scored and also had an assist

Maestro

Kagawa has shown plenty of class at Dortmund so had some kind of reference point to compare himself to.

Bebe came from nowhere. Had no previous examples to show people that he could be a good player.

Look, i'm coming across here as someone who hates the guy. I don't. Just because I feel he won't make it at United, one of the biggest clubs in the world doesn't mean I don't WANT it to happen.

I said at the beginning i'm keeping an open mind and that's how it's gonna stay.

Feel sorry for him

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Don't. He will do somnething to rub you all up the wrong way.

Dunc

Different Wolves game

This one was in a league game that mattered.

Wolves, the game where Bebe (a sub) was so bad he was subbed!

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Didn't he score too?

Too slow!

I think Red Side is best qualified to offer his opinion because as we all know, he watched the reserves more than practically anyone on here.

If he told me Bebe was storming it in the reserves i'd sit up and listen but as he's just said, Bebe is poor there too. (I think that's the conclusion he's come to)

*watches

This was the game when Hargreaves returned, and injured himself in less than 10 minutes.

Bebe came on in the 10th minute, and was taken off in the 74th...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9154647.stm

what happened to the if theyre at the club they are good enough and should be given our backing 100 % ??

or is that just for certain players

This was the game when Hargreaves returned, and injured himself in less than 10 minutes.

Bebe came on in the 10th minute, and was taken off in the 74th...
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so its not like he came on in the 50th and was off in the 70th

He forgot to mention that bit...

Dunc

Bebe has never for me proven himself to be good enough to be a United player. The same for Macheda.

I get behind the vast majority of people at the club and do hope Bebe proves me wrong but like Red Side said, he's not even doing well in the reserves.

I do like how people on here are fighting Bebe's corner far more than they are Giggs and Scholes' even though Bebe is a grain of sand on the beach that is what Giggs and Scholes have done for us!

I watch pretty much all the reserves....

Bebé usually performs very well... As do other more senior figures like Macheda and Darren Gibson in the past.

The reserves league just isn't at any standard that you can really judge a player though.

he's not posted in a few minutes... he'll be doing an essay

sometimes i wonder if he is related to sweet pea

I get behind the vast majority of people at the club and do hope Bebe proves me wrong but like Red Side said, he's not even doing well in the reserves.

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just because red side thinks he isnt playing well, it doesnt make it true ( no disrespect red side).

take carrick for example, i think he's been utter dog sheite this season, but you dont.

one persons opinion isnt always right, you have to judge yourself.

Regarding the Wolves game, still, to be a double sub is pretty bad. Obertan was on the pitch that day and was pretty awful. Why wasn't he taken off? Or Fletcher?

Ask SE85 next time he's here. He was at the game and could tell you how awful Bebe was that day.

I watch pretty much all the reserves....

Bebé usually performs very well... As do other more senior figures like Macheda and Darren Gibson in the past.

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Someone thinks Bebe does well in the reserves..

This discussion just got blew wide open..

Dunc

The difference is that Red Side watches all the reserve games. You don't.

You and I could have a reasonable argument about Carrick because we watch all the Premier league games but no disrespect, when it comes to reserve player judgements i'd listen to him over someone that doesn't watch them

Ask SE85 next time he's here. He was at the game and could tell you how awful Bebe was that day.

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to be honest i'd never ask stretty's opinion on anyone.

if he doesnt like a player he doesnt like a player, regardless of how he performs.

Maestro



Ji does add afterwards...

'The reserves league just isn't at any standard that you can really judge a player though'

Dunc

The difference is that Red Side watches all the reserve games. You don't.

You and I could have a reasonable argument about Carrick because we watch all the Premier league games but no disrespect, when it comes to reserve player judgements i'd listen to him over someone that doesn't watch them

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who says i dont watch them??

your assuming i dont watch the reserves for some reason.

JSPC

Do you really think he's done that well this season honestly?

Although he's only played 5 games not including friendlies, I haven't watched him once and said to myself after the game, "Do you know what, Bebe played well tonight".