comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 34 seconds ago

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No he didn't in those Parliamentary votes.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/27/jeremy-corbyn-signals-more-support-for-second-referendum-after-voter-exodus
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He did not whip the vote which is why Starmer spoke out against him. Don't try to rewrite history. The Second Ref Campaign were shafted by Corbyn. He wanted an election and took the bait from a clown.
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Good grief

https://labour.org.uk/manifesto-2019/the-final-say-on-brexit/

👆

Did you genuinely not know that?

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
But you are free now Pete
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You are now free to bailout Italy to your heart's desire. Starting March next year.
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Together we are stronger
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I hope the voters from eastern part of Germany agree with you. I fear the rise of the right in France and Italy more. But Germany is up there. After Covid its going to be very very hard.

At least they aren't imposing economic sanctions on themselves

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
But you are free now Pete
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You are now free to bailout Italy to your heart's desire. Starting March next year.
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Together we are stronger
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I hope the voters from eastern part of Germany agree with you. I fear the rise of the right in France and Italy more. But Germany is up there. After Covid its going to be very very hard.
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No, they don't but that is the minority. Democracy you know.

comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 8 seconds ago
Where did Keir Starmer stand on Brexit in 2016 though?
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A bit pointless no? I was for brexit when TTIP was close and then against it when it wasn't.

We have something now which is better than the catastrophic WTO rules.
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Not really that pointless at all tbh.

You said he's 'right behind the deal' but, as Crouch pointed out, he was Remain.

Bit like asking him which side of he toast he'd prefer you to spread a dogturd on really.
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He was remain but is behind a deal now. It is pointless because what someone was in the past does not reflect the reality of the situation now. Starmer is not advocating re-entering the EU is he?

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
But you are free now Pete
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You are now free to bailout Italy to your heart's desire. Starting March next year.
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Together we are stronger
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I hope the voters from eastern part of Germany agree with you. I fear the rise of the right in France and Italy more. But Germany is up there. After Covid its going to be very very hard.
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Yeah and the Britains live on a holy ireland, right?

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
But you are free now Pete
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You are now free to bailout Italy to your heart's desire. Starting March next year.
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Together we are stronger
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I hope the voters from eastern part of Germany agree with you. I fear the rise of the right in France and Italy more. But Germany is up there. After Covid its going to be very very hard.
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Yeah and the Britains live on a holy ireland, right?
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Only the Northern part.

At this point I have to assume you're being deliberately obtuse, J99.

https://labour.org.uk/manifesto-2019/the-final-say-on-brexit/

Don't forget 2nd ref was in the manifesto... Which is why no deal was struck between Lib/Lab... Which is why despite those two parties getting the share of the vote we're where we are

Typing "we're where we are" on mobile

DJ, are you on holiday now?

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
But you are free now Pete
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You are now free to bailout Italy to your heart's desire. Starting March next year.
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Together we are stronger
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I hope the voters from eastern part of Germany agree with you. I fear the rise of the right in France and Italy more. But Germany is up there. After Covid its going to be very very hard.
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Yeah and the Britains live on a holy ireland, right?
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What are you talking about? All countries are going to find it hard. But it is harder when you have to persuade ppl that even while they will be suffering they also have to send money to other European countries. It almost broke the EU after the Euro crisis. And Italy are already fuming at the lack of solidarity fighting Covid.

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted less than a minute ago
DJ, are you on holiday now?
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Been off work since 14th. Back 7th Jan

By extension over here it's going to be hard (harder than most if you.look at the damage to our economy)

Yet we're making it harder with brexit

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
But you are free now Pete
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You are now free to bailout Italy to your heart's desire. Starting March next year.
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Together we are stronger
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I hope the voters from eastern part of Germany agree with you. I fear the rise of the right in France and Italy more. But Germany is up there. After Covid its going to be very very hard.
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Yeah and the Britains live on a holy ireland, right?
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What are you talking about? All countries are going to find it hard. But it is harder when you have to persuade ppl that even while they will be suffering they also have to send money to other European countries. It almost broke the EU after the Euro crisis. And Italy are already fuming at the lack of solidarity fighting Covid.
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We always found a way.

Yes, but people WILL end up s(p)ending money to other countries, given the extra cost of importing goods is about to be passed on to the general public.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted less than a minute ago
DJ, are you on holiday now?
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Been off work since 14th. Back 7th Jan
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Nice one. I am back at 6th Jan.

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 50 seconds ago
https://labour.org.uk/manifesto-2019/the-final-say-on-brexit/

Don't forget 2nd ref was in the manifesto... Which is why no deal was struck between Lib/Lab... Which is why despite those two parties getting the share of the vote we're where we are
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Its the old story of unfair representation given to small constituencies over the cities. A second ref could have been won for remain. But there was no chance with an election. Corbyn knew that.

You backtracking little shiiit

Backtracking about what? You don't like the truth do you? Do you even like Starmer?

Mate you said he didn't back a 2nd ref and it's there in the manifesto

comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, but people WILL end up s(p)ending money to other countries, given the extra cost of importing goods is about to be passed on to the general public.
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The whole point of free trade deal m8 is there is no extra cost of importing goods.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, but people WILL end up s(p)ending money to other countries, given the extra cost of importing goods is about to be passed on to the general public.
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The whole point of free trade deal m8 is there is no extra cost of importing goods.
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But I thought we don't know what's in the deal 🤔

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
Mate you said he didn't back a 2nd ref and it's there in the manifesto
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For ffs. He did not back the second ref in the PARLIAMENTARY votes. Thats when with the Conservative remainers there could have been a path for second ref instead of calling an election. Have you forgotten the supreme court decision abt the sacrosanctity of parliament?