Also Robbs defence is exactly the same with the 4 snails

our beloved diamond

...........de gea
rafa...evans..vidic..evra
.............carrick..............
nani.......................young
.............kagawa.............
......rvp....chico/rooney...

or a 4-2-3-1

............de gea
rafa evans vidic evra
........carrick clevs.....
nani....kagawa..young
...............rvp................

or a standard 4-4-2 / 4-4-1-1

................de gea
rafa .....vidic ...evans .....evra
tony v ..carrick.. clevs ....nani
.............rvp....rooney/chico....

Obviously new guys may come in and players will leave so mix and match but in my opinion they are our best teams out of the players we have..
Valencia looks to have picked up a bit of confidence the past 2-3 games, maybe because we have feck all to play for I dunno.

comment by Park Ji - Colossus of The SG League, champion in the making! (U13708)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
I agree with Statman, Nani's not the type to take the game by the scruff etc. etc. If the team is playing badly, I can't see him being the lone shining light trying to pull it all together. However, when the team is playing half decent, he can really excel.

For me this is where he differs massively from Ronaldo. Ronaldo could pick the ball up anywhere and do it alone, Nani needs his teammates to do a little bit more, create a bit more space and play the ball quicker and better, before he can work his magic.
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Exactly how I see it. To be fair, there are very few players that operate in wide areas that can take the game by the scruff of the neck.

comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 16 hours, 52 minutes ago
why will Fellaini and Baines come to United just because Moyes was their manager. They are hardly United class players. Moysie had the players at Everton because they were what he could afford. Hes entering a completely new level now. Do RM Barca Chelsea City Munich Juve want them too?

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This

The other thing people are not understanding is that him bringing Everton players with him will be taking a chance with one our biggest strengths. Our Unity and togetherness

Moyes isn't gonna bring Fellaini or Baines with him unless there is an urgent need for him. And until he has had a chance to meet with every player in the squad to see where they are at there is no way under God's Earth is he going to force is ex players on them. It could all go pear shaped very quickly

The best thing he could do is run with what we have now and make his mind up as he goes. It will show he has trust in the current players rather than the opposite if he fills the dressing room with Ex-Evertonians in particular

He should be looking to give every player at the club their chance rather than starting next season with Fellaini in midfield ffs

Be patient

Macca

I think you underrate Fellaini. The guy could play for any top club and is very much deserving of a move to a club like United.
He'll change a lot of minds if he joins us next season and offers us something we don't have at the moment.

comment by Robb - Optimist Prime (U9808)
posted 1 minute ago
Macca

I think you underrate Fellaini
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Fellaini is incidental to the point I'm making

We are the PL champions. Moyes is not gonna do as some suggest and come in, dump half the squad, bring a few Everton players with him and buy Bale

Gawd It's unreal how people could think he would do anything to jeapordise what is already a winning formula

Yes, as we have all said, the football has been quite dull at times this season but that does not mean we don't already have the players to play a more entertaining style with the odd tweak possibly

But

If he brought in Fellaini and Baines and played them ahead of Evra and Clevs/Ando from the off, then that for me would be a recipe for disaster. Moyes is coming into a championship winning club and needs to tread very carefully at first.

Al these silly ins and out articles like

Sell Rooney Nani Ando Young Macheda Bebe Welbeck

Buy Bale Ronaldo Fellaini Baines Gundogan

will just destroy the the togetherness we had under Fergie (Which we both know is what many point to as our biggest strength)

What better way to get the dressing room instantly onside is to actually tell them he is happy with what he has, or at most, sign maybe one non-Everton player to a position we feels we are weak in but doesn;t put them in right away ahead of our current squad players

I can understand a manager taking over a club in a total mess that takes players with him, fine, but we are the champions and I have no doubt Moysie isn't foolhardy to come in and start chucking his weight about dumping players and replacing them instantly

Macca

I see your point but we must reinforce in midfield. We`ve been left wanting so many times and overrun because, apart from Carrick, our engine room isn`t anywhere near as good as it should be.

I think Fellani could be a starter and from the way he's talking he sounds interested. I reckon the club will sanction at least one big signing to give everyone a boost.

Statman

One big signing fair enough - but what do you class as a big signing? A ronaldo, bale, fabregas or falcao, if Rooney goes, is what i would class as a big signing.

I think fellaini is a necessity

comment by TheHairdryerTreatment#20 (U17898)
posted 31 minutes ago
Statman

One big signing fair enough - but what do you class as a big signing? A ronaldo, bale, fabregas or falcao, if Rooney goes, is what i would class as a big signing.

I think fellaini is a necessity
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I think that it will take 25m to get him, so I'd class that as a big signing. The players that you have mentioned I would class as being huge signings. Difficult to get, but they could happen.

I still think that there is a chance that Bale might happen, but I suspect that would only be if Rooney leaves and even then, I doubt we would get him and Fellani.

Realistically I think that we will probably go for one or the other. I think that if Bale is up for grabs then he will be the priority. However, if he decides to stay, it could be Fellani with an eye on Bale the following year. I do think that there is a genuine interest in both players though.

comment by TheHairdryerTreatment#20 (U17898)



posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago


Macca

I see your point but we must reinforce in midfield. We`ve been left wanting so many times and overrun because, apart from Carrick, our engine room isn`t anywhere near as good as it should be.
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Yes we need midfield re-inforcements but don't you think Moyes should work with the current midfield first before making a decision on what we need?

It's a new era at United and for all we know, Anderson for example may just become the 'signing' we need(Or he may not)

The point is I want our current players showing Moyes what they can do

Another is Tom Cleverley. Do I think he's good enough? I do not know. This season has been his first fit season in 10 years so you simply cannot judge him yet. Everyone wants to of course but what gives us all the most pleasure? Seeing a 30m superstar making at United or a product of our academy. Clevs has been with us since he was 12

I think David Moyes should come in and work with what he has, Sort out Wazza and Nani as a priority and then work out what we need after that.

Yes, we may fall behind Chelsea and City temporarily but long term, it will be far far better in my humble opinion

For me that is the United way. Moyes won't be under any pressure of the sack. As Gary Neville said just tonight, if things are going wrong on the pitch, United get rid of players, not managers

Give the guy time to look at what we have, what state they are in, what their expectations are, how they react to his expectations, and then make decisions

Like you. I'm a massive advocate of us needing midfield strengthening. I would love Gundogan for example but, to keep the harmony of the current squad, he needs to make sure he times it right. And if that isn't this Summer. I'll wait.

Macca


Nothing would please me more than for Cleverley and Anderson to be our regular midfield pairing - they were starting to look the part at the beginning of the 11-12 season, til the inevitable happened to Ando and lard boy davies mullered Clev.

If Rooney stays, i think we`re only in need of one or two additions. And after last nights showing i think Larnell Cole should feel aggrieved if Moyes doesn`t start to blood him. Fergie was also talking up Januzaj`s first team potential, then there`s Nick Powell too

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