It's all very political! But our foreign polices do exacerbate trouble in this country. We shouldn't be in a Iraq to stabilise the worlds oil that keeps the fat cats well fed... When we don't even need fossil fuel anymore (Let alone how it destroys the planet)! The amount of violence that happens in these country's where we are poking our noses in, will only bring the war here! Today's incident were thugs that butchered an innocent Patriotic man!! we don't need to turn to more thugs like the EDL and the BNP to console us... We need to look at the bigger picture! It's a real mess if u ask me...

Yestedays incident even

French/flash is spot on with this

He has a point, but theres a much much bigger picture

The amount of violence that happens in these country's where we are poking our noses in, will only bring the war here!
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True enough...

I would say we are still dependent on fossil fuels though, in a big way. What we should do is develop nuclear power but that is very unpopular in some areas...

The incident in Japan certainly didn't help in that regard.

EDL are extremist people also because they hate for a stupid reason same as these extremist muslim people. because of two mad men the muslim religion is scrutinised again. actually im not a religious person now but i know islam doesnt teach violence and hate.

i treat everybody the same and dont judge anyone and also i never experienced racism in england. but now the EDL are campaining against muslim/black people, they should realise these people are upset with the murder like everybody else.

1manontherun,

By 'bigger picture' I hope you're not alluding to anti-capitalist conspiracy theory nonsense

The EDL are just on the opposite end of the scale to these two nutters...

Not so much in action but in extremist views. It is the moderates between these two groups that suffer their extremism.

The EDL are paper tiger's by comparison to groups like Al Qaeda and Combat18 etc.

I don't think the EDL can in any way be compared to terrorists committing murder in the street.

Just in terms of their views rather than actions... though combat18 is probably a better example of a polar opposite...

He's French, He's Flash... (U9335)
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I 100% agree with everything you said. Nail on head with everything.

comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)

EDL are extremist people also because they hate for a stupid reason same as these extremist muslim people. because of two mad men the muslim religion is scrutinised again. actually im not a religious person now but i know islam doesnt teach violence and hate.

i treat everybody the same and dont judge anyone and also i never experienced racism in england. but now the EDL are campaining against muslim/black people, they should realise these people are upset with the murder like everybody else.

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By 'bigger picture' I hope you're not alluding to anti-capitalist conspiracy theory nonsense

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Elaborate please

'I don't think the EDL can in any way be compared to terrorists committing murder in the street.'



http://news.sky.com/story/1094547/woolwich-edl-protests-as-mosques-targeted

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Defence_League#Association_with_violence

So the EDL are going to make everything better... Im gonna sleep really well tonight and I can tell my family, dont worry the nice people from the EDL will save us and there will be no further escalations

You know what they say....

"We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."

Thank god for the EDL eh?

(warning heavy sarcasm in above post)

Please tell me you're not comparing those EDL protests to 'terrorism'

In that case, tens of thousands of Scottish terrorists attacked Manchester a few years ago and tens of thousands of terrorists rioted across the country last year

"So the EDL are going to make everything better... Im gonna sleep really well tonight and I can tell my family, dont worry the nice people from the EDL will save us and there will be no further escalations"

Is smoking a crack pipe tolerated by your religion?

Delete religion.

Problem solved

French I would only say in extremism of their views, the EDL's actions are far from that extreme... though as you said earlier combat18 probably a better example of a polar opposite in viewpoint.

smashing up something is slightly different to hacking someone to death

By 'bigger picture' I hope you're not alluding to anti-capitalist conspiracy theory nonsense

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Elaborate please

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No need, you obviously think that rich men getting richer is worse than people blowing up bus loads of civilians

Next you'll be telling me that the only reason we are in Afghanistan is because the CIA flew a remote controlled plane into the twin towers whilst simultaneously detonating strategically placed C4 charges

Are you talking to me? I have never said that... but EDL have send death threats to the press... They have cost the tax payers millions and are heavily associated to organised crime, racism and Football hooliganism

They arent Terrorists as I never have said that.... But I can confirm that I am not defending these people!!

what say you??