Admin, can you put this on the PS3 board please?

I still don't get how xbox are saying you can only lend a game to one friend, so how can you sell a game to a stranger????

I heard that Xbox might be offering two years free xbox gold for all purchases on launch, which would bridge the gap between the two easily, especially since you need PS+ now. Just a rumour, but if true it would definitely be a good move.

Who doesn't have internet?
There are plenty of countries with minimal internet connections, lots of areas in USA and Europe that have slow/poor connections. Very selfish from microsoft they didn't look at the big picture, I don't think they care either

Sony won the hearts of 90% gamers, they listened to what they wanted, didn't put forward any restrictions. People should be allowed to trade games with each-other, why should I have to buy a brand new copy of a game when it is 1 or 2 years old

But do you see WHY they have to impose the restrictions? How could they do the whole 'install and then no disc needed ever again' without having to do this.

It's pretty much the same on steam, yet no-one complains about that.

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if that's the case, why are they even bothering with discs at all?

On steam you're not even allowed to resell them.

PC gamers are often different to console gamers. They mix, of course, but you're talking too two different groups of consumers in many cases. Of course you'll get a negative response.

London Dave

Source?

The problem is, the Xbox One, as well as the PS4, will both be very good game consoles, and there's almost nothing between them. But the problem for Microsoft, is that they should have known that the media and gamers alike wouldn't immediately take to these changes, and they(MS) took a chance of there being a backlash, and ultimately there was.

It was also fortunate for Sony, that they could say in their conferences AFTER Microsoft's, that they wouldn't have 2nd hand game restrictions, and always online, it was like a slap in the face tor MS.

For this reason Sony have shown that they put the gamers interest first, which is great for PR, and really won them the console war for me.

The beauty of console gaming is that you can lend games to your friends, have a physical copy of a game, can easily return it

No matter what you say there is no reason for these restrictions, if PS4 doesn't have them then why do microsoft, simply because they are greedy

Sorry Penguin, I have no idea where I saw it. It was on reddit somewhere a couple of days ago, so quite likely bull.

It would just appease quite a few people.

Hombe Los Lanndo

Download speeds. Imagine if you've just come home with your brand new Halo 5 copy from Game, it takes about 10 minutes to install the 6GB file. That's just about fine, you can live with that.

Compare that, to say, a 3 hour download while you sit there píssed off because all your friends are playing.

Plus, people wanna still have all the midnight launches and be able to go into a shop and buy a game. It's like records.

HMING, Fergie's Retinue.

Explain to me how you could have a system of installed games that could work without these restrictions then!

Cheers for a great article.

And also want to say that it was the ignorant and arrogant nature that MS have shown, thinking that everyone would be happy with these new restrictions, that has put people off. The 2nd hand games thing really makes them look like they're just interested in making money, not to mention the price being 80 quid more than the ps4.

Xbox360 allows you to install games onto the hard-drive but required you to have a disc to play it still, you can't upgrade the xbone hard-drive so it really is a stupid idea, should just run off the disc, very simple concept

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Thanks

HMNIG

The thing is, it works exactly like a PC, and I can see why they've done it. The whole 'ONE' concept they're going for, every game being linked in together and seamlessly transferring between games in the blink of an eye.

Of course the Disc idea works now but it takes a while to load. Imagine if everytime on your computer you wanted to load up google chrome, or word, or play FM2013, or draw on paint, you had to put in a new disc. It would be a pain in the arsé, but you wouldn't care because you didn't know any better.

Imagine how it will change gaming now that you can just move between games really easily like this. It will completely transform the way everyone thinks of the console and going back will be as painful as the scenario I described in the above paragraph

Penguin, you realise you can download the games fast on ps4 and instantly switch between them on that too?

It's not ONLY going to be disc based games that take a while to load up as you seem to think.

Fergie's Retinue.

Similar to how the 360 works now, you'd still need the disc to play the games.

Not without the disc inside them. That's the clear difference.

If Microsoft deal with all this similar to Steam, it'll be a success. Otherwise, it will flop.

Similar to how the 360 works now, you'd still need the disc to play the games.

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Unless you buy them off PSN and download them, like I said. If you don't want disc based games you don't have to get them that way. It's like that already on PS3.

I only love steam mainly because the sales they do, other than that it is nothing special

Yeah PS3 already had the idea in-place, should be optional whether you want to play off a disc or download the game via onlinestore