I am an athiest
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This is the only thing where me and our resident clown agree upon.
You can't really tell Muslim and Hindu Indians apart. The culture there has a larger influance on the people than the religion. People from India and that region (Pakistan and Bangladesh) mix the culture and religion together. I've experienced this growing up as I am of a similar background.
Rez
It's culture that stops them from moving forward.
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rez
It's culture that stops them from moving forward.
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Hmm i'd say it's more to do with knowledge and education.
The culture stops them from getting that.
comment by The Rez Devils (U11181)
posted 44 seconds ago
The culture stops them from getting that.
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Not really. It's the governments that stop people from getting that for the more educated their people become the more difficult they become to control. Sure, blind following of any culture or religion etc isn't healthy but that's predominantly down to a lack of education.
If you had people solely following Islam down to a tee without silly culture interfering then the world would be a better place imo. What you have right now in big asian communities is culture being passed down from the older generations onto the newer ones and the cycle repeats itself.
The government generally has the educated and the elite in power. But culture also takes part in forming that. The Government will need a radical change and it will need people who are willing to make that change. If the government, from the same culture but made up of its elites and educated do not want it, it is because they are happy with the status quo. True, the government may not want a more educated set of people but ignorant people themselves can become uncontrobale and unreasonable and just because people are educated doesn't mean they cannot be controlled. Take a look at the UK. We're considered reasonabally educated yet we allow the government to control us in plenty of ways.
Every countries general folk will be under some form of control however general rule of thumb is the less educated you are the easier you are to be controlled. These people revert back to culture because it's all they know. It's THEIR education however once they are shown a different light and given more knowledge they can break from that and pick and choose the pros and cons from their culture. The uneducated don't have that ability because they are not clever enough to think for themselves, instead they let culture think for them.
I am an athiest
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This is the only thing where me and our resident clown agree upon.
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I agree too. Except the spelling.
That takes time and it also helps if there is a top down approach to it. Personally, if I was leading a government, I would want educated people because it will help the country move forward. It will bring money into the country, it will improve the lively hood of the population, etc. So, I am not so sure if it is the government that wants to keep the people down in come countries and not the government themselves that need reforming.
In other countries that may be the case, uneducated people may be what they what.
comment by The Rez Devils (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
That takes time and it also helps if there is a top down approach to it. Personally, if I was leading a government, I would want educated people because it will help the country move forward. It will bring money into the country, it will improve the lively hood of the population, etc. So, I am not so sure if it is the government that wants to keep the people down in come countries and not the government themselves that need reforming.
In other countries that may be the case, uneducated people may be what they what.
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If the general person is uneducated and scared of culture and religion, these people will ask less questions leaving the rich (hence the people in charge) to get richer. Educated people wouldn't allow this to happen.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"
There ain't no god. Religion is the cause of so many wars and problems on this planet.
Religion isn't the cause of many wars and problems, the prominent cause is greed and power, religion is often used as an excuse.
Obviously greed and power are factors too but the persecution of people in various parts of the world for having minority religious beliefs is down to religion funnily enough. Throughout history over thousands of years there have been endless examples of this.
Sure there are wars and conflicts due to religion but even they are made for power and control.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"
There ain't no god. Religion is the cause of so many wars and problems on this planet.
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Biggest falsity in the world!
You know, as well as I do that it's people on not religious books that cause grief.
In my religion (islam) I know there is nothing that advocates killing another human being UNLESS you are being attacked first.
Time and time again we see states, run not by religion authority but by 'democratic values waging illegal war, killing millions and destroying infrastructure.
Iraq for Example after the first golf was was first carpet bombed, then it's people left to die in the hands of Saddam with the very weapons we supplied him with, then we sanctioned them killing millions of children who couldn't eat or get medical aid, then our uranium tip shells came into action and a whole host of deformed babies were born during a generation, then we attacked them again, and then we destroyed there infrastructure putting them back in the dark ages and all in the name of oil and the economic boost of war.
What religion asks you to do that?
Is Islam weapons of mass destruction can't be used be it's indiscriminate and targets everybody.
We can't wage wars for resources only self protection.
We can't let children suffer.
WE CARE NOT ALLOWED TO DESTROY INFRASTRUCTURE! Something vitally important to a countries future after a war.
People are the problem and so is your ignorance!
lots of spelling errors there but I'm on my phone and at work.
There ain't no god
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So you think there is a God then?
Cisse is a donkey, he's got an illegitimate kid with a blonde Geordie and he's selecting a few rules to use as a tool to get out of Newcastle. Just hand in a transfer request you fool
No he hasn't you silly boy.
The key point regarding religion is economics. Humans have unlimited wants in a world where limitation exists. Religion whether it is Islam or Buddhism teaches you that the human needs to control these wants. Buddhists can spend their whole lives devoted to suppressing their ego and self. Evil itself or actions which are taken by people in this world is not to do with religion. That is too simplistic to view it in a such away. Humans are the issue and this is a matter of fact. You only need to look at the planet and how we are destroying it. People will kill other people to benefit themselves. People will cause mass starvation across other nations to benefit "their way of life". People will steal from other lands because of greed. Is the distribution of wealth fair in the world? How can nations such as Britian have so much food that it can be thrown away? Then if we go a few thousand miles away people are starving and have nothing to drink.
Religion teaches humans to suppress the ego and unlimited wants of greed. It teaches people to give charity and help others. How many atheist charities do you see out there helping people? There are far more religious charities. Religion itself tries to eliminate the self and ego. It tries to suppress the self for the benefit of pleasing God. Religion is not there to cause division, it is there to bring people together. Some people may not believe in God. Everyone is entitled to their view but from my experience.. In my religion (Islam) we are taught to put others and God first. Division and suppression is seen as an act of evil. The main point is that, even without religion in the world, people will still find an excuse to kill each other. Whether it is politics, ethnicity etc. You only need to look at football. We as fans divide ourselves into groups which creates divide and hatred of people. Our nature is like that.
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posted on 24/7/13
I am an athiest
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This is the only thing where me and our resident clown agree upon.
posted on 24/7/13
You can't really tell Muslim and Hindu Indians apart. The culture there has a larger influance on the people than the religion. People from India and that region (Pakistan and Bangladesh) mix the culture and religion together. I've experienced this growing up as I am of a similar background.
posted on 24/7/13
Rez
It's culture that stops them from moving forward.
posted on 24/7/13
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rez
It's culture that stops them from moving forward.
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Hmm i'd say it's more to do with knowledge and education.
posted on 24/7/13
The culture stops them from getting that.
posted on 24/7/13
comment by The Rez Devils (U11181)
posted 44 seconds ago
The culture stops them from getting that.
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Not really. It's the governments that stop people from getting that for the more educated their people become the more difficult they become to control. Sure, blind following of any culture or religion etc isn't healthy but that's predominantly down to a lack of education.
posted on 24/7/13
If you had people solely following Islam down to a tee without silly culture interfering then the world would be a better place imo. What you have right now in big asian communities is culture being passed down from the older generations onto the newer ones and the cycle repeats itself.
posted on 24/7/13
The government generally has the educated and the elite in power. But culture also takes part in forming that. The Government will need a radical change and it will need people who are willing to make that change. If the government, from the same culture but made up of its elites and educated do not want it, it is because they are happy with the status quo. True, the government may not want a more educated set of people but ignorant people themselves can become uncontrobale and unreasonable and just because people are educated doesn't mean they cannot be controlled. Take a look at the UK. We're considered reasonabally educated yet we allow the government to control us in plenty of ways.
posted on 24/7/13
Every countries general folk will be under some form of control however general rule of thumb is the less educated you are the easier you are to be controlled. These people revert back to culture because it's all they know. It's THEIR education however once they are shown a different light and given more knowledge they can break from that and pick and choose the pros and cons from their culture. The uneducated don't have that ability because they are not clever enough to think for themselves, instead they let culture think for them.
posted on 24/7/13
I am an athiest
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This is the only thing where me and our resident clown agree upon.
================================
I agree too. Except the spelling.
posted on 24/7/13
That takes time and it also helps if there is a top down approach to it. Personally, if I was leading a government, I would want educated people because it will help the country move forward. It will bring money into the country, it will improve the lively hood of the population, etc. So, I am not so sure if it is the government that wants to keep the people down in come countries and not the government themselves that need reforming.
In other countries that may be the case, uneducated people may be what they what.
posted on 24/7/13
comment by The Rez Devils (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
That takes time and it also helps if there is a top down approach to it. Personally, if I was leading a government, I would want educated people because it will help the country move forward. It will bring money into the country, it will improve the lively hood of the population, etc. So, I am not so sure if it is the government that wants to keep the people down in come countries and not the government themselves that need reforming.
In other countries that may be the case, uneducated people may be what they what.
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If the general person is uneducated and scared of culture and religion, these people will ask less questions leaving the rich (hence the people in charge) to get richer. Educated people wouldn't allow this to happen.
posted on 24/7/13
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"
There ain't no god. Religion is the cause of so many wars and problems on this planet.
posted on 24/7/13
Religion isn't the cause of many wars and problems, the prominent cause is greed and power, religion is often used as an excuse.
posted on 24/7/13
Obviously greed and power are factors too but the persecution of people in various parts of the world for having minority religious beliefs is down to religion funnily enough. Throughout history over thousands of years there have been endless examples of this.
posted on 24/7/13
This
posted on 24/7/13
Sure there are wars and conflicts due to religion but even they are made for power and control.
posted on 24/7/13
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"
There ain't no god. Religion is the cause of so many wars and problems on this planet.
-----------------------
Biggest falsity in the world!
You know, as well as I do that it's people on not religious books that cause grief.
In my religion (islam) I know there is nothing that advocates killing another human being UNLESS you are being attacked first.
Time and time again we see states, run not by religion authority but by 'democratic values waging illegal war, killing millions and destroying infrastructure.
Iraq for Example after the first golf was was first carpet bombed, then it's people left to die in the hands of Saddam with the very weapons we supplied him with, then we sanctioned them killing millions of children who couldn't eat or get medical aid, then our uranium tip shells came into action and a whole host of deformed babies were born during a generation, then we attacked them again, and then we destroyed there infrastructure putting them back in the dark ages and all in the name of oil and the economic boost of war.
What religion asks you to do that?
Is Islam weapons of mass destruction can't be used be it's indiscriminate and targets everybody.
We can't wage wars for resources only self protection.
We can't let children suffer.
WE CARE NOT ALLOWED TO DESTROY INFRASTRUCTURE! Something vitally important to a countries future after a war.
People are the problem and so is your ignorance!
posted on 24/7/13
lots of spelling errors there but I'm on my phone and at work.
posted on 24/7/13
There ain't no god
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So you think there is a God then?
posted on 24/7/13
Meh
posted on 24/7/13
Cisse is a donkey, he's got an illegitimate kid with a blonde Geordie and he's selecting a few rules to use as a tool to get out of Newcastle. Just hand in a transfer request you fool
No he hasn't you silly boy.
posted on 25/7/13
The key point regarding religion is economics. Humans have unlimited wants in a world where limitation exists. Religion whether it is Islam or Buddhism teaches you that the human needs to control these wants. Buddhists can spend their whole lives devoted to suppressing their ego and self. Evil itself or actions which are taken by people in this world is not to do with religion. That is too simplistic to view it in a such away. Humans are the issue and this is a matter of fact. You only need to look at the planet and how we are destroying it. People will kill other people to benefit themselves. People will cause mass starvation across other nations to benefit "their way of life". People will steal from other lands because of greed. Is the distribution of wealth fair in the world? How can nations such as Britian have so much food that it can be thrown away? Then if we go a few thousand miles away people are starving and have nothing to drink.
Religion teaches humans to suppress the ego and unlimited wants of greed. It teaches people to give charity and help others. How many atheist charities do you see out there helping people? There are far more religious charities. Religion itself tries to eliminate the self and ego. It tries to suppress the self for the benefit of pleasing God. Religion is not there to cause division, it is there to bring people together. Some people may not believe in God. Everyone is entitled to their view but from my experience.. In my religion (Islam) we are taught to put others and God first. Division and suppression is seen as an act of evil. The main point is that, even without religion in the world, people will still find an excuse to kill each other. Whether it is politics, ethnicity etc. You only need to look at football. We as fans divide ourselves into groups which creates divide and hatred of people. Our nature is like that.
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