"Don't think that's true, pretty sure Giggs' father is English. He chose Wales because he has always considered himself Welsh rather than English that's all and he played for English school boys purely because he studied at an English school."

No, thats a myth, there was an article on here a couple of weeks about it where I posted a link. He was never eligible for England at any point, his mother and father are both Welsh, there is no English link in his grandparents either so he was always only eligible for Wales.

I see.

Always a strange one what nationality people consider themselves. I have a number of friends who's parents are of different nationalities to the country they mainly grew up in. Most seem to consider the country they mainly grew up in as being their nationality.

Off topic but what has happened to adam Johnson, since he went to city and back to sunderland his career has regressed so much, apart from one foray into the box yesterday he was shocking.

I was born in Australia but raised in England from my teens.
I'm in my 30's now so I feel both Australian and British.

Myself included, my parents were Irish dad welsh mum born to a welsh father Scottish mother.

I was born in Manchester.

Its more complicated with us technically being british, but then having all four home countries represented. It's why we have more stringent rules than just the FIFA ones, to ensure they are all fairly represented.

Johnson showed so much promise, he's a bit of a Ron Bacardi by all accounts.

"Myself included, my parents were Irish dad welsh mum born to a welsh father Scottish mother.

I was born in Manchester."

Not too dissimilar Loz. Welsh mother, Half welsh half english dad (with a bit of irish in there somewhere too), born in England.

I consider myself british, but in terms of home countries, split between wales and england.

Wales for rugby every time though

He never really did much for us when he started games, was just a decent asset as an impact sub. Was always out boozing when he was at City too, not sure if that's something he's carried on in the north east.

I have a friend born in Iran to Iranian parents but moved here as a baby and definitely calls herself English (although is massively proud of her Iranian roots) and a friend born in Australia, from Australian and New Zeland parents, moved to the US at 1 and has lived in England for the past 10 years but definitely considers himself American.

I would never consider myself British, I really don't get the term, I have nothing what so ever to do with Wales, Scotland or N Ireland. I always get called British when I go to America.

Well, it is the name of the country and what is on your passport! I know what you mean though, I know a lot of people that think similarly.

Yeah it's a confusing one. It's like Andy Murray, he's Scottish yet the English media love to call him British when it suits them so we (the English) have someone we can claim as ours when Wimbledon is on.

I definitely don't consider myself British although I have no problem if others do.

I conciseder myself mancunian rather than English.

The English football fans in the 80's made me distance myself from thinking that I'm a proud English man.

Them an the NF or edl cockroaches.

True, Murray was very proud to be considered British when the Olympics was on though. I think he thinks more similarly to me, in that it is basically both.

I say i'm half British because my mum is Northern Irish as well as me living in England.

But being born in Australia and having an Aussie dad and an Aussie grandparent makes my case of nationalism a strange one!

It dont matter if youre English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish.
Any person living outside like me for instance will call you British.
No need ro get so touchy.

Not touchy it's just how you define yourself.

Who calls the Irish British? That's just stupid

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 4 minutes ago
Who calls the Irish British? That's just stupid
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Well, I have a British passport because of my Northern Irish lineage so I guess the government do..

That's what I mean, it's usually a lazy term coined by people outside of the British Isles, of course there are many people who will have a mix of British countries in them but there are many who don't.

No, that doesn't make the Irish British. The Irish are still Irish. Some northern Irish people are British but that's different.

We (English) generally call people from India/Pakistan/Bangladesh "Asians" whereas in America they use that term for the people of the far east what we generally refer to a oriental.

Still all asian

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 2 minutes ago
No, that doesn't make the Irish British. The Irish are still Irish. Some northern Irish people are British but that's different.
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I don't get your point. I never said I was Irish or that people from Ireland should consider themselves British.

Please don't turn this into some weird political thing