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Gibbs Has Become A Top Class Player

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comment by Rusky (U15847)

posted on 20/10/13

He's definitely got the quality. Maybe just needs a bit more experience

posted on 20/10/13

I have been a big fan of Gibbs from the start. He is now turning into a excellent player.

I feel for nacho, who everyone assumed was the better play as he represented Spain. There is no way he is going to get ahead of Gibbs and I don't even think its close between the two

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 20/10/13

Baines > Gibbs > Cole

comment by Bestie (U1113)

posted on 20/10/13

The most understated player in our squad imo, followed by Szczesny. He's unlucky that he'll never get as many caps as he would if he played for almost any other country, as although the case could be made for his inclusion ahead of Cole or Baines, they are both also top players and he'll struggle to displace them while Hodgson is in charge, and then to cap it all off, Luke Shaw is coming through as a natural replacement for Baines when he gets old. Hopefully, from his point of view, he gets his due recognition on the international stage, but I'd be surprised if he ends up with over 30 caps. Still, should mean he gets fewer annoying injuries and more breathers throughout the season.

posted on 20/10/13

If Gibbs can stay fit he could play himself on the plane to Rio.

posted on 20/10/13

Baines is much better going forward than Gibbs. Defensively I'd have Gibbs over him though.

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 20/10/13

Agreed, but Baines is definitely the better LB overall

comment by Bestie (U1113)

posted on 20/10/13

Yeah. For England, I'd stick with Baines as we don't have a natural left-footed left winger to give us the width going forward, and his ability to actually put in a decent set piece is so important. I do think Baines is overrated when people talk about him as world-class, but he is still a cracking left-back and I'm so glad United didn't sign him in the summer.

posted on 20/10/13

Baines is not world class. Very good player though.

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 20/10/13

Would struggle to name many LBs better than Baines....

Alaba, Felipe Luis, alba...

posted on 20/10/13

how is Baines better than Ashley Cole? I seriously need someone to go into detail. Its like people watch Baines crossing highlights, google Cole's age and just connect the dots.

Its not close. Cole is still the best LB in the world.

(Gibbs > Baines)

posted on 20/10/13

I think Paul Shaw of southampton is as good as Kerian Gibbs honestly just don't understand what all the fuss is about.

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 20/10/13

Saint mal, you a wum?

posted on 20/10/13

Have Arsenal got any worldclass players Dubbed?

posted on 20/10/13

i'm dead serious.

This whole Baines > Cole bs is just like when people were going Hart > Cech.

posted on 20/10/13

everytime I see someone go Baines > Cole, i'm going to challenge them.

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 20/10/13

No, it's completely different because this is true, unlike hart > cech. Cole has declined quite a bit the last couple of years

posted on 20/10/13

Should the number one priority when ranking a defender not be, are they good at defending? Its all well and good being a swashbuckling attacking full back for a team like Barca, or Brazil of old. But for England the top priority for our full backs should be how well they defend, we shall need them against the better teams later in the big tournaments.

posted on 20/10/13

No he hasn't. He was arguably our best player last season. Definitely he had a great season.

And he hasn't had a bad start to this season.

I remember when the majority of Non-Chelsea fans were in agreement that Hart was the best GK in the league. It wasn't even that long ago.

posted on 20/10/13

"Have Arsenal got any worldclass players Dubbed?"

Is that a serious question?

posted on 20/10/13

Baines should start. The difference in ability isn't great, IMO Cole still has it, but Baines dead balls are enough to get him in.

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 20/10/13

We don't have a proper left mid so Baines is even more essential for England

posted on 20/10/13

posted 11 minutes ago
Have Arsenal got any worldclass players Dubbed?

Ozil without doubt

posted on 20/10/13

"Should the number one priority when ranking a defender not be, are they good at defending? Its all well and good being a swashbuckling attacking full back for a team like Barca, or Brazil of old. But for England the top priority for our full backs should be how well they defend, we shall need them against the better teams later in the big tournaments."

Exactly. Made this point plenty of times.

Personally, I think Gibbs is better than Baines. But Cole probably is a little bit ahead of him.

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 20/10/13

You think cole was better than mata last season? Or even close?

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