"is it even mathmatically possible for us to be 3 points behind arsenal by the 1st?"

4 games each, and you are 13 points behind, so it would involve a hell of a swing, both in terms of your results and Arsenal going on a terrible run.

Sadly Arsenal are going to batter City on Saturday so we might not be catching them anytime soon

"Sadly Arsenal are going to batter City on Saturday so we might not be catching them anytime soon"

Ha! That and you are away at Villa

i would prefer arsenal to batter city and get even further ahead than city to beat arsenal

Cheers greg!

To be honest, I don't think we will win the league this season anyway, I'm happy with top four whilst Pellegrini makes his changes, still got a long way to go yet in terms of him implementing what he wants to.

Surely you can't want Arsenal to build an even bigger gap though, you can't have fully given up on the title?!

I am not too bothered about the title this season, most of us knew things were going to get worse before they got better. Don't think any of us expected us to have such a poor start in the PL though!
I just want us to secure a top 4 spot and I will be happy, not sure about anyone else?

Also I'd much rather see Arsenal win the league than City, they deserve it in my eyes after almost a decade of nothing and spending peanuts!
I have a lot of respect for Wenger, received endless abuse from the Arsenal fans and he's still going strong.

Agreed Greg. I know people call me an Arsenal fan but I just respect people like Wenger, Ramsey and even Koscielny who got dogs abuse from their own fans and are now amongst the best players (and manager) in the league and are doing well in Europe too.

Our rivalries with Arsenal at the turn of the century up until 2005 were epic stuff.

Dunno why the gooners on these boards hate the mancs so much.
Some of them were saying they would prefer Spurs to get top 4 than United, just can't understand that at all?

Our matches against each other were epic, why would they want a fierce local rival to join them in the top 4...?

Fair enough. Personally, I dislike arsenal with a passion and would always want the title to stay out of London, but I can understand your viewpoint.

I think it all goes back to when we beat their unbeaten run with what might lightly be described as 'bullyboy' tactics

And the fact they were our bittches for so many years. Even now when we're average we still beat them

Robb.. when you wrote this article did you expect us to take 2 points from 12?

Can I phone a friend?

I expect us to take at least 10 from the next 12 but even now i'm lucky i'll be overseas and offline for a while in case this article goes down in infamy

This article will be the focus off SLM, Hippo and W&R's worlds come Jan 1st

Oh Robb

To be fair, when I wrote this both Rooney and RvP were fit