comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Resistance is Existence (U1108)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago

We’re the 4th richest club on the planet. We rank 13th in wage bill rankings.

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Depends how you define richest I guess. The Deloitte report is generally considered to be reliable and for 2023 they have us as 7th highest revenue.

They also show a wages/revenue of 63%; in terms of value that ties in with 90 min report saying we have the 5th highest wage bill in european football.

https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/services/financial-advisory/analysis/deloitte-football-money-league.html
https://www.90min.com/posts/the-clubs-biggest-wage-bills-in-europe-ranked

So not 4th and 13th, but 7th and 5th. Paints a different picture.
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Since then Klopp who was on a serious wage has left as has his team. Slot and his team are on much less.

High earners like Thiago and Matip also left.
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Don't know about Klopp's team but Slot is (apparently) on 7m less than Klopp. So that shifts our wages to revenue by 1%.

And yeah, we'll have lost high earner like Thiago and Matip. Picked up new ones like AMA, Szobo & Grav who won't be in those figures as a full year.

Look, they'll change all the time - these were just the most recent figures I could find. I was trying to base it in fact as far as I could.

Oh no, we’re back to asset stripping

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Is it that different a picture? No.

We’re not exactly in the mire are we. Top five revenue, top five operating income, year on year growth, back in the CL, lower wage bill than last year… we even made a net profit in the transfer market this summer.

We’re minted. Still, we could be even more minted if we bin off our Captain, Vice Captain and best player. Joy.
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Of course it paints a different picture ffs. You posted the disparity between our position as a income generator and our position as a spender in wages. The clear inference being we don't spend enough.

That's not true. We spend in line with our revenue.

I never claimed we weren't minted, of course we are. We're fecking rich. But we spend like we're fecking rich too.

comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Is it that different a picture? No.

We’re not exactly in the mire are we. Top five revenue, top five operating income, year on year growth, back in the CL, lower wage bill than last year… we even made a net profit in the transfer market this summer.

We’re minted. Still, we could be even more minted if we bin off our Captain, Vice Captain and best player. Joy.
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Of course it paints a different picture ffs. You posted the disparity between our position as a income generator and our position as a spender in wages. The clear inference being we don't spend enough.

That's not true. We spend in line with our revenue.

I never claimed we weren't minted, of course we are. We're fecking rich. But we spend like we're fecking rich too.
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There’s not a huge disparity in your out of date figures at all.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 6 minutes ago
Oh no, we’re back to asset stripping
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I swear the most beneficial use for this board would be to make savings on bulk orders of anti-depressants.

And this is when we're top of the EPL and CL group!

comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Resistance is Existence (U1108)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago

We’re the 4th richest club on the planet. We rank 13th in wage bill rankings.

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Depends how you define richest I guess. The Deloitte report is generally considered to be reliable and for 2023 they have us as 7th highest revenue.

They also show a wages/revenue of 63%; in terms of value that ties in with 90 min report saying we have the 5th highest wage bill in european football.

https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/services/financial-advisory/analysis/deloitte-football-money-league.html
https://www.90min.com/posts/the-clubs-biggest-wage-bills-in-europe-ranked

So not 4th and 13th, but 7th and 5th. Paints a different picture.
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Since then Klopp who was on a serious wage has left as has his team. Slot and his team are on much less.

High earners like Thiago and Matip also left.
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Don't know about Klopp's team but Slot is (apparently) on 7m less than Klopp. So that shifts our wages to revenue by 1%.

And yeah, we'll have lost high earner like Thiago and Matip. Picked up new ones like AMA, Szobo & Grav who won't be in those figures as a full year.

Look, they'll change all the time - these were just the most recent figures I could find. I was trying to base it in fact as far as I could.
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AMA, Dom and Grav replaced previous high earners like Fab, Hendo, OX, Milner and Keita

I mean if we ignore that Term clearly doesn’t know what asset stripping is, and we take into the account the veneer of our current standing of the club on 16th January, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss the future of the club we support (especially taking into account the contract situation) on a light-weight sports forum and to be quite honest, if you don’t like it, then fvck off.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Is it that different a picture? No.

We’re not exactly in the mire are we. Top five revenue, top five operating income, year on year growth, back in the CL, lower wage bill than last year… we even made a net profit in the transfer market this summer.

We’re minted. Still, we could be even more minted if we bin off our Captain, Vice Captain and best player. Joy.
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Of course it paints a different picture ffs. You posted the disparity between our position as a income generator and our position as a spender in wages. The clear inference being we don't spend enough.

That's not true. We spend in line with our revenue.

I never claimed we weren't minted, of course we are. We're fecking rich. But we spend like we're fecking rich too.
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There’s not a huge disparity in your out of date figures at all.
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Right. So using your own calculations (because the most recently published ones aren't good enough) you're prepared to stick to your guns. Despite you actually admitting that your sources looked shiite

I bet if some other posters had posted that from shiite sources then you'd have accused them of lying again.

No, I said the wage sources look suspect. The accounts are official.

Seeing as you’ve used two year old accounts from a season where we were not in the CL I’m not really sure what your point is.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I mean if we ignore that Term clearly doesn’t know what asset stripping is, and we take into the account the veneer of our current standing of the club on 16th January, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss the future of the club we support (especially taking into account the contract situation) on a light-weight sports forum and to be quite honest, if you don’t like it, then fvck off.
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Oh get your head out of your ass, it was tongue in cheek. Who the feck do you think you are anyway? You’re insulting/attacking everyone who doesn’t bow to you on here. Grow up or feck off yourself.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I mean if we ignore that Term clearly doesn’t know what asset stripping is, and we take into the account the veneer of our current standing of the club on 16th January, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss the future of the club we support (especially taking into account the contract situation) on a light-weight sports forum and to be quite honest, if you don’t like it, then fvck off.
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Oh get your head out of your ass, it was tongue in cheek. Who the feck do you think you are anyway? You’re insulting/attacking everyone who doesn’t bow to you on here. Grow up or feck off yourself.
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Yes, you’ve done this before whilst somehow ignoring that you have a pop at the entire site. Do you think getting do many votes in cvnt of the year was a coincidence? No-one else does, half of us voted for you because, to be honest, you do exactly what you’re accusing me of on a daily basis.

Go and have a lie down you utter chode.

dramma

comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 17 seconds ago
dramma
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Innit. A lightweight sports forum is absolutely not the place to discuss such things as football and the future of the club.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I mean if we ignore that Term clearly doesn’t know what asset stripping is, and we take into the account the veneer of our current standing of the club on 16th January, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss the future of the club we support (especially taking into account the contract situation) on a light-weight sports forum and to be quite honest, if you don’t like it, then fvck off.
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Oh get your head out of your ass, it was tongue in cheek. Who the feck do you think you are anyway? You’re insulting/attacking everyone who doesn’t bow to you on here. Grow up or feck off yourself.
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Yes, you’ve done this before whilst somehow ignoring that you have a pop at the entire site. Do you think getting do many votes in cvnt of the year was a coincidence? No-one else does, half of us voted for you because, to be honest, you do exactly what you’re accusing me of on a daily basis.

Go and have a lie down you utter chode.
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Self awareness not your thing is it, maybe take a look at yourself. No matter who I have a go at, I can’t match your level of vindictiveness.

Telling people to go and have a lie down. Grow the feck up, you Feckin man child.

Despite the emoji, I suspect no-one believes that you’re laughing.

All am saying is that Slot has been dropping loads of hints/wishes recently. A couple of times he has mentioned how teams improve in Jan with new signings. Most would think he is talking about other teams but when you have not made a signing yourself he is probably wondering WTF!

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Despite the emoji, I suspect no-one believes that you’re laughing.
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Laughing at you… Now stop watching the David Brent stuff.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
No, I said the wage sources look suspect. The accounts are official.

Seeing as you’ve used two year old accounts from a season where we were not in the CL I’m not really sure what your point is.
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I don't believe that at all. You do know what the point is because you're not an idiot. You're just not prepared to accept it.

I like this board. At it's best it can be balanced, funny and interesting. So I won't fvck off. But I will leave you to your doom-mongering for a while I think. I've clearly not read the room.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I mean if we ignore that Term clearly doesn’t know what asset stripping is, and we take into the account the veneer of our current standing of the club on 16th January, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss the future of the club we support (especially taking into account the contract situation) on a light-weight sports forum and to be quite honest, if you don’t like it, then fvck off.
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Oh get your head out of your ass, it was tongue in cheek. Who the feck do you think you are anyway? You’re insulting/attacking everyone who doesn’t bow to you on here. Grow up or feck off yourself.
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Yes, you’ve done this before whilst somehow ignoring that you have a pop at the entire site. Do you think getting do many votes in cvnt of the year was a coincidence? No-one else does, half of us voted for you because, to be honest, you do exactly what you’re accusing me of on a daily basis.

Go and have a lie down you utter chode.
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Where did you learn 'chode' from Robbing? lol

I am assuming you are white.

Oooooo burn. Jesus Christ. Imagine having a pop and laughing at someone for chatting about their team on a sports forum and then calling them names repeatedly, calling them vindictive and saying they should have a look at themselves.

You’ve probably convinced yourself that’s reasonable too.

Where did you learn 'chode' from Robbing? lol

I am assuming you are white.
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NG7 innit

As-salamu alaykum.

I had to google the last bit mind

comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Oooooo burn. Jesus Christ. Imagine having a pop and laughing at someone for chatting about their team on a sports forum and then calling them names repeatedly, calling them vindictive and saying they should have a look at themselves.

You’ve probably convinced yourself that’s reasonable too.
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There goes that self awareness thing again. I’m not laughing at you for talking about football, it’s the rest of the shiite you come out with. I’ll laugh at anyone who styles themselves on Brent. All day long.

comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 7 minutes ago
All am saying is that Slot has been dropping loads of hints/wishes recently. A couple of times he has mentioned how teams improve in Jan with new signings. Most would think he is talking about other teams but when you have not made a signing yourself he is probably wondering WTF!
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Well I mean he is part of the transfer team so I'm sure he's clued in on what is actually happening and what they're trying to do. He has been speaking recently about the hard work the team have been doing and how hard they worked on the Zubimendi deal in the summer.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Oooooo burn. Jesus Christ. Imagine having a pop and laughing at someone for chatting about their team on a sports forum and then calling them names repeatedly, calling them vindictive and saying they should have a look at themselves.

You’ve probably convinced yourself that’s reasonable too.
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There goes that self awareness thing again. I’m not laughing at you for talking about football, it’s the rest of the shiite you come out with. I’ll laugh at anyone who styles themselves on Brent. All day long.
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Yep, you can keep saying it. It’s baseless.

Tbh, and I’m just going by the replies you tend to get, I’m not sure anyone cares what some bitter rat with little man syndrome thinks, so I’m just going to have to live with it I guess. Have a nice day.