you could be right.. it maybe a flat wicket. But the aussies are use to bowling on wickets at home such as these.
They have 5 good bowlers. who definetly put more pressure on the indian batting.
Dhawan to me as a very poor technique for an opening batsmen. surely India can do better than him
I just don't think the Indian batting is that great.
Oh Michael Clarke,he as a serious back issue..i doubt we'll see much of him anymore.

The Australia batting doesn't look great either. warner gets away with hitting through the line in Australia.. he wont be able to play with such a wide angled bat in England next summer.
Watson is a huge LBW candidate..

No you can't win

With a little luck, a draw here will consolidate Kohli as future skipper because India will lose the next 3 under Dhoni.

I think India did a decent job. First of all in Adelaide I have seen Steyn and world class bowlers go for runs. Shami and Aaron are very new to bowling in tests. If India can somehow get the tail out quickly and restrict Aus below 400 they could well be in the game. Our batsman will have to bat sensibly. This is a flat track. No swing at all.

Aus bowling is really good in these conditions, so our batsman need to play sensibly. If we cant get passed 400 in this match with 7 specialist batsman, then there is no hope for the matches going foward

Also early to judge Karn, but if he doesnt bowl well next innings, then we should seriously consider of going with Ashwin. That guy is an allrounder. He can be a handy bat, and im sure he can be economical as well. In these sort of pitches when wickets only fall due to batsman error, bowlers need to bowl less boundary balls.

IMHO, it was a decent move to try the rookie leg-spinner. If it paid off, Kohli would have been praised for his bold ploy. It's harder to bowl leg-spin when you are playing your first test match. It's not easy to impart overspin and keep control over flight. Don't forget this pitch looks like a batting paradise (at least until Johnson and Harris come on to bowl).

Leggies generally do much better than offies in Australia. Think of Warne, MacGill, Grimmett, Benaud, O'Reilly, Mailey, and Chandra.

Contrast with off-spinners. Swann (av 52, SR 99), Titmus (av 40, SR 123), Ramdhin (av 49, SR 127), Murali (av 75, SR 131), Mathews (av 60, SDR 130), Harbie Singh (av 73, SR 126), Aswin (av 63, SR 112), to name a few. Some offies with decent to average performances include Mallett, Gibbs, Prasanna, and Yardley. Lyon has actually done well there.

Left-arm spinners (Bedi, Underwood) haven't done as poorly as off-spinners. Vettori though did not enjoy much success in Aus (av 40, SR 84).

Adelaide pitch has some history of helping spinners on the 4th and 5th days although it is hard to tell with drop-in pitches.

Some commentators kept harping on about Aswin's omission. First, his performance during his last tour wasn't impressive. He is no Jim Laker or Prasanna. If Swann and Murali found the going hard in Australia, the odds are low that Aswin will create a havoc there.

I dont agree with Mv here, I thought Ashwin did pretty well in England. He was tossing the ball up quite alot. you can argue Moeen had better figures but that was was due to the incapabilities of our batsman more than anything.

I think Ashwin should have played in this match. Infact I still argue that we should have played five genuine bowlers. With India our bowling is very very poor, having 4 bowlers, or 3 pacers is a big big gamble. Like yesterday and today morning, 2 of the pacers went for runs, kohli was left with no option whatsoever.

If its a batting track it only makes sense to have more bowlers. You should have enough confidence as a team to score runs on a flat track. I can guarentee, that extra batsman that we have picked will have no impact in the team. Watch this space.

Our bowlers just dont seem to have any plans when they are bowling. I dont understand how difficult it is to pick one line and stick to that. 4th stump is what our bowlers should be aiming. We are just giving lots of boundary balls in one over. As far as this game is concerned, I think we are arleady out of it now, unless we match Aus's first innings score

I have critisized dhoni for his captaincy, but I have also gone on to realise that it is very hard to be an attacking captain with the skillless bowlers India have.

Karn averages 29 in domestic matches. That also in Indian conditions. How he has made it ahead of someone like Amit Mishra is a mystery. How we picked Jadeja over any other spinner in England is also a mystery. India tend to select test players based on t20s, ipls and odis, and its the biggest reason why they have failed miserably outside subcontinent.

In the future I think India should not bother playing long test series. They are as bad as WI are, and should only be given 2-3 tests max until they establish themselves as a competitive side.

The observation that Australia is a nightmare for off-spinners is probably right.

good morning...
conditions do play a part for home and away team. opposition of spinners in Australia struggle with the more bounce.. I know they say bounce is good for spinners.. It is for the Likes of Lyon who gets over spin and gets the slice of the bat.
But over seas offspinners tend to get cut and sliced more. and are cannon fodder on the leg side.
Australia struggle on slower wickets against spinners ingeneral due to lack of pace on theball. its easier to contain the scoring rate.
that's exactly how India play cricket at home.. pack the side with spinners and apply pressure that way.
India need to find another option in bowling.all right handed bowlers and coming over the wicket..
Even a left arm quick bowler would be different.. Obviously got to have the talent.

No sign of lefty ? gone on holiday once again?

When was the last time an opening bowling pair (tests) went for over 5 runs per over (bowling a min 20 overs)? Shocking!

Great to see Clarke back and in form

comment by englandwhoelse (U16825)
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No sign of lefty ? gone on holiday once again?
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I think our bowlers were bad. But then players like steyn, morkel and philander have conceded 500 runs in day 1 itself.

Until the time India changes their way of thinking, we will do bad away from India. we had 2 day matches. That is itself a recipe of failure. Even teams that play 1 off test matches have more practice matches.

Kohli was ordinary as well. Wait, he was made to look ordinary. the same happens when dhoni captains, or for that matter, if clarke also captained this bowling attack, he would probably end up looking ordinary.

There is a reason why Dhoni has so many grey hair all round his face.

I dont think India will be able to deal with Aus's pace attack. So this match is pretty much gone.

Viru,

Two average bowlers in rahat Ali and Imran Khan had these aussie batsmen in their pockets on flat tracks.., it's not even about pace.. Consistent line and lengths with a bit of variation is all it takes

Viru, why are u comparing styn and philander to your bowlers? so they went fro 500 ina day.. ONCE..
the problem with india. you can never see them running througha team and bowling them out cheaply,more than once a series.
You know even if the inidan bowlers bowl the top order out. number 6/7/8 in the batting line up get 50s and 100s.

looking at Ishant sharma test record.. hes Indians most expericanced bowler. His average aint great. But its the strike that's the killer 65 balls per wicket..thats 1 wicket every 11 overs.
hes a half decent bowler and theres plenty of flat wickets around the world today. But you gotta be looking at someone who can do a better job.

Englandwhoelse is showing concern for the indian bowlers

Anyways, this is a flat pitch. Draw probably the most likely result.

I don't think its a major surprise to see the Indian Bowlers struggling.

I think most on here expected it.

Still, 2 days into the series...long way to go

Great to see Kohli standing up - very helpful century knock from him. Rohit and Saha need to carry on tomorrow morning and bridge the 148 difference as much as they can. A draw is looking ever more likely however.

Well done Kohli. Captains knock. Hopefully rohit and saha can get the deficit off.

Karn sharma could play a vital role in this match. ball is turning. adelaide 2003 guys

It's a shame the others couldn't go ahead and push on to score big. Rahane needed to get to a century. Vijay is becoming a very dependable opener as well. Played well in SA and has started well here too.

The problem with Kohli is that once he reaches a century in tests, he seems to think his job is done. He has 7 test centuries and his highest score is 118. He gets out as soon as he has hit the century and you really need to bat on in tests. Hopefully he'll learn.

vinz im sure he will learn. there was a lot of pressure on in this match as a batsman. he will only get better and more confident from here

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