Suarez admitted to referencing skin colour
That is not allowed in any context
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It's amazing how many people disagree with the FA's report, but agree with the verdict.

comment by UnitedRedMacca - First with the news!! (U2024)
posted 1 minute ago
However there is no way to prove which version is correct and you'd probably side with the person who's speaking in his mothertongue
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You mean the guy that blatantly lied about biting in the WC and then admitting to it after being asked to do so by Barca, despite the fact that in the meantime he had received support from everyone, including his own president

Let it go Toor. He did the deed and did the time
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Or the guy who lied at Chelsea, or at the very least, stood by as others lied for him, after going nuts, losing control and then lied during the Suarez thing, changing his story on numerous occasions. Who used the n-word himself on video. Who said "I had a tendency to get angry and want to sort things out with my fists" whilst playing for Monaco. Who blamed his own countrymen for racially abusing him, calling him a monkey who grovelled to the white man.

This is not somebody that can be trusted either, is it?

The fact is, neither can be trusted and that's why evidence is used in these things and not the word of one man against another. It didn't happen that time. I can never let it go as I completely disagree with the decision and always will just as you agree with the decision.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)

I marvelled at how many experts you had on Uraguyan culture, on your board, at the time.

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Sorry mate, but not all nations are as PC as us Brits.

For instance, calling a black man a 'darkee' or 'Blackie' in POST-apartheid South Africa is not seen to be racist; so is donning 'blackface' (See Cape Carnival, or Leon Shuster movies for proof of this).

I presume Uruguay have the same laid back attitude (when it comes to issues of races) as post-aparteid South Africans.

Call a black S.African a kaffir or the 'N_word' and he'll probably beat you within an inch of your life. Call him a darkeee, blackie or 'koon' and he'll just laugh it off.

However, in Britain, if you so much as rocked up at work in blackface for a laugh or jokingly called a big black bloke 'King Kong', you'd propably end up in prison or the unemployment line.

Leon Schuster is hilarious. I remember the one he was cleaning some guys car with dirty water and the guy punched the head off him.

In a situation like Suarez-evra incident or saying "give me a drink, black man". what matters is how the offended felt, anybody can see an inappropriate unnecessary reference to a person's skin colour. If the person at the receiving end feels like he has been racially abused, then he was racially abused. Its not up to the offender to decide how other people should feel to what he say

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Yeah but then anybody could say they were offended by anything to get an advantage in the match or in a title race.

comment by ButchBarry_MulletsAreBack (U17994)
posted 47 minutes ago
Having lived in South Africa before (for 7 odd years), Brit blacks have it good and have NO idea of what real racism is/looks like.

Calling someone a ''black cant'' isn't racist at all. However, lynching someone because they're black and then posing for pics next to their dead body (while grinning from ear to ear) is.

Black Brits and PC-lefties use the word 'racism' all willy and nilly and in so doing, spit in the faces of those that have experienced REAL racism.
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This is without a doubt the stupidest comment on the thread, Calling someone you dont know "a black cant" is a racist act just as same as lynching someone because they are black, you idiot. The brutality of the racist act is the difference, both acts are racist all the same.

How dare women that get beat up by their husbands complain about domestic violence, Dont you know in ancient India, People used to throw wives into their dead husband's funeral pires, British woman use the word 'domestic violence' all willy and nilly and in so doing, spit in the faces of those that have experienced REAL domestic violence.

Moron

comment by The Luke Show (U8522)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by ButchBarry_MulletsAreBack (U17994)
posted 47 minutes ago
Having lived in South Africa before (for 7 odd years), Brit blacks have it good and have NO idea of what real racism is/looks like.

Calling someone a ''black cant'' isn't racist at all. However, lynching someone because they're black and then posing for pics next to their dead body (while grinning from ear to ear) is.

Black Brits and PC-lefties use the word 'racism' all willy and nilly and in so doing, spit in the faces of those that have experienced REAL racism.
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This is without a doubt the stupidest comment on the thread, Calling someone you dont know "a black cant" is a racist act just as same as lynching someone because they are black, you idiot. The brutality of the racist act is the difference, both acts are racist all the same.

How dare women that get beat up by their husbands complain about domestic violence, Dont you know in ancient India, People used to throw wives into their dead husband's funeral pires, British woman use the word 'domestic violence' all willy and nilly and in so doing, spit in the faces of those that have experienced REAL domestic violence.

Moron
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Calling somebody a black c unt isn't racist, it's racially abusive as you've abused them in relation to race. You haven't however indicated that they are inferior to you so I wouldn't call a person a racist for it.

comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 44 minutes ago
in mentioning colour?

I have already said, I wouldnt use colour in a derogatory way but I would mention colour.

I wouldnt set out to offend so any offence taken is not my problem.

If I am wrong please explain to me how.
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Nah say what u want about whatever u want as long as YOU dont mean to offend....

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Hahahahahhaha this still going? Duncwum

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As so many said on this thread, Its not up to you to decide what other people should feel. If you are willing to use inappropriate reference to a persons skin, you should face the consequences if the other person feel as he was racial abused

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Busbybabes

Who said that?
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take a wild guess?

comment by The Luke Show (U8522)
posted 1 minute ago
As so many said on this thread, Its not up to you to decide what other people should feel. If you are willing to use inappropriate reference to a persons skin, you should face the consequences if the other person feel as he was racial abused
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By the same token you can't just call a person a racist because you feel offended. If you call somebody something in relation to race then it's racial abuse. Racism is a different thing altogether. You'd have to indicate you believe a person is inferior to you, due to his race, to be classed a racist.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds(Spurs 0-5 LFC Know you... (U1721)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by The Luke Show (U8522)
posted 1 minute ago
As so many said on this thread, Its not up to you to decide what other people should feel. If you are willing to use inappropriate reference to a persons skin, you should face the consequences if the other person feel as he was racial abused
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By the same token you can't just call a person a racist because you feel offended. If you call somebody something in relation to race then it's racial abuse. Racism is a different thing altogether. You'd have to indicate you believe a person is inferior to you, due to his race, to be classed a racist.
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But surely the fact you are using the word black with an offensive word, means you must think of the fact they are black before anything else.

Just the same as calling somebody fat, ginger, old, a virgin, anything to hurt their feelings.

You may not believe the person you are calling a "black man" is inferior to you. The fact is, you used a reference to a person's skin when there is no need to it. In that case, If the person you call "black man" felt you made a racially derogatory remark, then you racially abused him. Its not up to you, Its upto him.

Like TOOR says, it's wrong and it's unnecessary, and you probably would get your head kicked in, but it doesn't necessarily make you a racist.

Just the same as walking into a bar and saying, hey fat man get me a beer, you'd expect an ass whooping from the bar man

It doesnt make you a racist, true. It does make it a racist act. In TOOR's case, its an ignorant fool committing a racist act unknowingly.

For the record I dont think Suarez, TOOR or that guy with SA references are racists, They are ignorant