Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
What you've effectively done is justify any insult by saying that the person could have been offended by me being sanctimonious.
Sorry, but that's a cheap cop out.
We are mature adults. If I post something that you think is offensive, just tell me. Chances are, I'll apologise.
Respond with an insult, and the debate is then probably over, because I'll respond in kind and then it's just a car crash of a conversation.
I didn't say you were out of order.
I implied that you may have felt that I was being stronger with my views than I actually was.
Do you have a point?
I've already accepted there are certain situations where I could have handled the situation better.
But the reality is that the vast majority of my interactions on this forum are problem free, so I don't see the need to make a big issue out of this.
There's a handful of people - mostly Liverpool fans, where a negative view of a Liverpool player has been aired - that are saying what you're saying.
So whilst I respect your points, I feel you and some other Liverpool fans have as much to chew on as I do. But seemingly you feel the problem is all mine and not yours.
Well sorry, but that's nonsense, because of the vast number of debates I have that don't end like this.
I'm confident if you read this thread back, the fault lies with a couple of Liverpool fans and not me, in the main.
And of course, there's one overriding point here.
Anyone who doesn't like the way I comment can filter me.
Why don't they?
I can hazard a few guesses...
But let me just say this.
I am fully aware that I'm not the patriarch of 606.
But then, I'm not the one telling people how to use the forum, am I?
The only reason we're discussing behaviour is because of you and a couple of your friends. I didn't bring it up.
Think about it.
TomShrimp (U19831)
I'm fine, but thanks for your input.
Here's some advice back to you - join in a conversation about football, rather than silly, personal comments to someone after being on the forum for two days.
Winston (U16525)
Don't talk to me about a football debate. Take your last post for example, and a few before that. Tell me how that is "a conversation about football"?
Winston;
The only reason we're discussing behaviour is because of you and a couple of your friends. I didn't bring it up.
Think about it.
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Yep done that and most of us are agreed that you're the common denominator and the reason it gets brought up. You’ll be dismissive and arrogant, people get annoyed and then you'll call them abusive and childish and they'll think you’re a hypocrite. Is that not what has happened?
What's my point? That I can do what I want. If I want to tell you about yourself then I can. I'm not part of some framework that you have decided the parameters now am I? Or do you think I am because if you do that's the problem.
TomShrimp (U19831)
It's not - because a couple of the Liverpool fans decided to leave the football debate behind and get personal. I've replied.
Nothing to do with you, is it?
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
Okay - let's keep looking at this.
Show me on this thread where I was dismissive or arrogant, which justified the comments returned at me.
I'm aware that you can do what you want.
But here's the thing. It's you criticising me, not the other way around.
You expect me not to respond to your comments?
I feel you're blaming me for something that you guys are partly/wholly to blame for.
It's ridiculous that you feel the need to tell me that you're not part of some framework, when you're the one telling someone else how about their behaviour and why it's a problem.
You're obviously not a stupid guy, but it's crazy that you can't see that.
Fair comment. I don't think I've ever started with an insult though - as said it's not chicken and egg for me as I find you a catalyst. I guess I'm willing to bet that if I went through every thread that has gone south that you've entered before that before anyone, certainly me, has levelled an insult/observation yuo will have said that their post is either "nonsense" or "pathetic".
No-one, anywhere, will appreciate that I'm afraid. I really don't think I'm wrong on this point. I don;t want to go through a who started it convo and yet I guess I am saying you ask for it.
I still like you though.
Nice end to the post Robbing.
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
I'm willing to match that bet!
Though it might be a bit dull for you to try and prove it
And I'm sorry, but you can't write that and then say you don't want to go through who started. This thread is a great opportunity for you to show me what you mean.
You're a decent guy and I think you're saying it for the right reasons.
I'm not perfect and have apologised on several occasions where I think I overreacted.
But the Liverpool fans on here aren't perfect either, and I don't see them apologising. I think this thread is a good example where primarily they are to blame, not me.
That doesn't mean I'm never to blame.
Winston (U16525)
No, its not, your right. Prefer not to be a part of it. But I'd at least stop there, move on and escape the argument because your not helping yourself, at all.
Its just a word of advice. Don't take it, ok, but your the only clown here. Take it from me.
comment by TomShrimp (U19831)
posted 30 seconds ago
Winston (U16525)
No, its not, your right. Prefer not to be a part of it. But I'd at least stop there, move on and escape the argument because your not helping yourself, at all.
Its just a word of advice. Don't take it, ok, but your the only clown here. Take it from me.
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What's he done? I don't have the energy to read through this
Personally I think Winston is okay... he does seem to do something (that I can't quite put my finger on) that gets on the nerves of the people he debates with....
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SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
That is what I mean. I don't actually have a problem with him, just his arguing an invalid point when he is outnumbered for so long just gets on my nerves.
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nice end to the post Robbing.
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It was indeed
Especially as winston is a cockbadger
TomShrimp (U19831)
I can say, hand on heart, that I couldn't care less what you think.
Clearly you're a returning user who's here just to argue, so I'm going to filter you.
Cheers.
Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
If you check back, you'll I said it's not okay.
I guess just making things up is easier for you to continue your silly little game, though.
Patronises. That would be what you can't put your finger on.
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Well TBH its hard to get back to the start of it because lots of people insult him (I am guessing because he patronised them in the past) not saying your wrong but by the time I spot the debate neither side is exactly being polite and friendly with each other...
An NVQ in childish insults
How do you manage that!
SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
With that guy, it's just an excuse.
He was being quite patronising to someone that claimed Gerrard played wide right.
That's when I pointed out Benitez actually confirmed he played there (later agreed as right midfield).
So whilst I respect your points, I feel you and some other Liverpool fans have as much to chew on as I do. But seemingly you feel the problem is all mine and not yours.
Well sorry, but that's nonsense, because of the vast number of debates I have that don't end like this.
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Not true and you know it. I wont even bother.
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 3 minutes ago
An NVQin childish insults
How do you manage that!
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posted on 29/7/14
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
What you've effectively done is justify any insult by saying that the person could have been offended by me being sanctimonious.
Sorry, but that's a cheap cop out.
We are mature adults. If I post something that you think is offensive, just tell me. Chances are, I'll apologise.
Respond with an insult, and the debate is then probably over, because I'll respond in kind and then it's just a car crash of a conversation.
I didn't say you were out of order.
I implied that you may have felt that I was being stronger with my views than I actually was.
Do you have a point?
I've already accepted there are certain situations where I could have handled the situation better.
But the reality is that the vast majority of my interactions on this forum are problem free, so I don't see the need to make a big issue out of this.
There's a handful of people - mostly Liverpool fans, where a negative view of a Liverpool player has been aired - that are saying what you're saying.
So whilst I respect your points, I feel you and some other Liverpool fans have as much to chew on as I do. But seemingly you feel the problem is all mine and not yours.
Well sorry, but that's nonsense, because of the vast number of debates I have that don't end like this.
I'm confident if you read this thread back, the fault lies with a couple of Liverpool fans and not me, in the main.
And of course, there's one overriding point here.
Anyone who doesn't like the way I comment can filter me.
Why don't they?
I can hazard a few guesses...
But let me just say this.
I am fully aware that I'm not the patriarch of 606.
But then, I'm not the one telling people how to use the forum, am I?
The only reason we're discussing behaviour is because of you and a couple of your friends. I didn't bring it up.
Think about it.
posted on 29/7/14
TomShrimp (U19831)
I'm fine, but thanks for your input.
Here's some advice back to you - join in a conversation about football, rather than silly, personal comments to someone after being on the forum for two days.
posted on 29/7/14
Winston (U16525)
Don't talk to me about a football debate. Take your last post for example, and a few before that. Tell me how that is "a conversation about football"?
posted on 29/7/14
Winston;
The only reason we're discussing behaviour is because of you and a couple of your friends. I didn't bring it up.
Think about it.
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Yep done that and most of us are agreed that you're the common denominator and the reason it gets brought up. You’ll be dismissive and arrogant, people get annoyed and then you'll call them abusive and childish and they'll think you’re a hypocrite. Is that not what has happened?
What's my point? That I can do what I want. If I want to tell you about yourself then I can. I'm not part of some framework that you have decided the parameters now am I? Or do you think I am because if you do that's the problem.
posted on 29/7/14
TomShrimp (U19831)
It's not - because a couple of the Liverpool fans decided to leave the football debate behind and get personal. I've replied.
Nothing to do with you, is it?
posted on 29/7/14
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
Okay - let's keep looking at this.
Show me on this thread where I was dismissive or arrogant, which justified the comments returned at me.
I'm aware that you can do what you want.
But here's the thing. It's you criticising me, not the other way around.
You expect me not to respond to your comments?
I feel you're blaming me for something that you guys are partly/wholly to blame for.
It's ridiculous that you feel the need to tell me that you're not part of some framework, when you're the one telling someone else how about their behaviour and why it's a problem.
You're obviously not a stupid guy, but it's crazy that you can't see that.
posted on 29/7/14
Fair comment. I don't think I've ever started with an insult though - as said it's not chicken and egg for me as I find you a catalyst. I guess I'm willing to bet that if I went through every thread that has gone south that you've entered before that before anyone, certainly me, has levelled an insult/observation yuo will have said that their post is either "nonsense" or "pathetic".
No-one, anywhere, will appreciate that I'm afraid. I really don't think I'm wrong on this point. I don;t want to go through a who started it convo and yet I guess I am saying you ask for it.
I still like you though.
posted on 29/7/14
I still like you though.
posted on 29/7/14
Nice end to the post Robbing.
posted on 29/7/14
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
I'm willing to match that bet!
Though it might be a bit dull for you to try and prove it
And I'm sorry, but you can't write that and then say you don't want to go through who started. This thread is a great opportunity for you to show me what you mean.
You're a decent guy and I think you're saying it for the right reasons.
I'm not perfect and have apologised on several occasions where I think I overreacted.
But the Liverpool fans on here aren't perfect either, and I don't see them apologising. I think this thread is a good example where primarily they are to blame, not me.
That doesn't mean I'm never to blame.
posted on 29/7/14
Winston (U16525)
No, its not, your right. Prefer not to be a part of it. But I'd at least stop there, move on and escape the argument because your not helping yourself, at all.
Its just a word of advice. Don't take it, ok, but your the only clown here. Take it from me.
posted on 29/7/14
comment by TomShrimp (U19831)
posted 30 seconds ago
Winston (U16525)
No, its not, your right. Prefer not to be a part of it. But I'd at least stop there, move on and escape the argument because your not helping yourself, at all.
Its just a word of advice. Don't take it, ok, but your the only clown here. Take it from me.
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What's he done? I don't have the energy to read through this
posted on 29/7/14
Personally I think Winston is okay... he does seem to do something (that I can't quite put my finger on) that gets on the nerves of the people he debates with....
posted on 29/7/14
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posted on 29/7/14
SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
That is what I mean. I don't actually have a problem with him, just his arguing an invalid point when he is outnumbered for so long just gets on my nerves.
posted on 29/7/14
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nice end to the post Robbing.
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It was indeed
Especially as winston is a cockbadger
posted on 29/7/14
posted on 29/7/14
TomShrimp (U19831)
I can say, hand on heart, that I couldn't care less what you think.
Clearly you're a returning user who's here just to argue, so I'm going to filter you.
Cheers.
posted on 29/7/14
Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
If you check back, you'll I said it's not okay.
I guess just making things up is easier for you to continue your silly little game, though.
posted on 29/7/14
Patronises. That would be what you can't put your finger on.
.................................................
Well TBH its hard to get back to the start of it because lots of people insult him (I am guessing because he patronised them in the past) not saying your wrong but by the time I spot the debate neither side is exactly being polite and friendly with each other...
posted on 29/7/14
An NVQ in childish insults
How do you manage that!
posted on 29/7/14
SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine (U5768)
With that guy, it's just an excuse.
He was being quite patronising to someone that claimed Gerrard played wide right.
That's when I pointed out Benitez actually confirmed he played there (later agreed as right midfield).
posted on 29/7/14
So whilst I respect your points, I feel you and some other Liverpool fans have as much to chew on as I do. But seemingly you feel the problem is all mine and not yours.
Well sorry, but that's nonsense, because of the vast number of debates I have that don't end like this.
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Not true and you know it. I wont even bother.
posted on 29/7/14
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 3 minutes ago
An NVQin childish insults
How do you manage that!
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