comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 minutes ago
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
That's right, I did.
However, it makes no sense to interpret my comment as being about Gerrard not being good enough.
You still can't explain why you think it's related.
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It can be related Your comment was in response to my comment which was itself a response to an allegation that he wasn't good enough. Can you understand that?
I had not even insulted the guy. he just went off calling me a child. Look at him now backtracking. Utter joke.
Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
No, I didn't. They are two very different things.
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
It's not related.
What has being a complete player got to do with not being good enough? Nothing.
"So basically you made a more stupid post than I previously thought."
"I had not even insulted the guy"
Oh dear.
Going to claim that calling my post stupid is not an insult, I suppose?
This is embarrassing.
Pirlo
Scholes
Seedorf
Lampard
Heskey
Gerrard
Why does everyone have a problem with Winston?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 24 minutes ago
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
I think there's ways of putting these things. If you feel I've been a bit strong or over the top, just say so politely.
I have plenty of people thank me for being fair, open and admitting my mistakes, so whilst I take your comments on board, I think that your assessment of me is often based on a debate that has already headed south.
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Why do I have to be polite? Because you say so? Because if you do go down that route it sounds sanctimonious and a bit of a cop out rather than addressing the observation in hand which would generally be your writing style. You're not the patriarch of 606 and although obviously bright I do feel you lack certain elements of empathy when understanding why people kick off at you. It's not that they're losing a debate it's that you're offending them and when you do that and then say don't be abusive they will call you a hypocrite.
With regards to your second paragraph in fairness Winston I've also seen plenty of people say you're arrogant, condecending and patronising so I think trying to garner support from what others have said it flawed to say the least.
I've seen you say that people derail the debate by getting personal but I think you need to take on board people do not want to debate while your writing to them in such a way. It's not chicken and egg I'm afraid but rather a catalyst.
Anyways it's a ball ache replying to three people so I'll leave you with two.
TomShrimp (U19831)
Not everyone does.
Doesn't look that way to me.
I suspect if I met Winston in a boozer or professinally in some capacity we'd get on quite well.
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
Brilliant - we've actually struck upon an example by accident.
For some bizarre reason, you've taken a polite post and come back with quite a strongly worded retort.
Here's the major flaw in everything you said:
"Why do I have to be polite?"
Because it's a matter of interpretation.
If you just assume the person was aiming to be sanctimonious or offensive, and start insulting people, you might well be wrong.
That's why.
You're just making excuses for childish behaviour.
Do me favour - next time you see it, tell me. I still believe you're referring to my posts after the thread has already deteriorated.
I'd also say that this happens usually when it involves some sort of negative opinion about a Liverpool player.
Perhaps stop looking to blame someone else and take responsibility for your own behaviour.
TomShrimp (U19831)
A handful of Liverpool fans is now everyone?
comment by Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
I suspect if I met Winston in a boozer or professinally in some capacity we'd get on quite well.
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I agree.
I have to say though, that I really don't believe in using the forum to judge how people would behave in person!
By the way, this comment:
"Perhaps stop looking to blame someone else and take responsibility for your own behaviour."
Was just rhetorical, and not aimed at you personally.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
It's not related.
What has being a complete player got to do with not being good enough? Nothing.
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I already explained this Winston. Can you read the 20 or so posts before yours? Do you know what context means? Do you know that something can have a different meaning or implication depending on context?
Holy!!!!
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
I don't need to.
It is inconceivable that when I said Scholes is a more complete player than Gerrard, I was actually saying 'Gerrard was not good enough'.
There's just not a scenario where it works.
So when you said 'I appeared to back up that pathetic comment' and then called my post stupid, you had obviously completely misinterpreted my point and not thought it through.
You jumped to a silly conclusion, used it as the basis to insult me and now want to blame me for all of this?
Incredible.
And that was not an insult. You're post was stupid going by the explanation you were giving which you backtracked from. its all good Winston. All this could have been avoided if you could express yourself better and be more articulate. If you are being specific, then be specific.
Winston (U16525)
I've been on here for 2 days, everyone I see seems to slate you, those who bother responding to some of your useless thoughts. Gerrard as a wide midfielder. What planet are we living on?
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
Calling someone's post stupid is not insulting?
I didn't backtrack from anything.
All this could have been avoided if you didn't jump to a conclusion that makes no sense, and then decide to be bullish and insulting.
Trying to blame me for your own behaviour is cringeworthy.
TomShrimp (U19831)
Have already said the term wide right was incorrect.
Perhaps you need to read the posts through again, but thanks for the input anyway.
comment by Winston (U16525)
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
Brilliant - we've actually struck upon an example by accident.
For some bizarre reason, you've taken a polite post and come back with quite a strongly worded retort.
Here's the major flaw in everything you said:
"Why do I have to be polite?"
etc., etc
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No I don't accept that. Firstly the biggest set to we've had was on institutional racism - nothing to do with football and my criticisms are constant so that observation lacks basis in my opinion.
If it's a matter of interpretation why are you so willing to pick upon people’s idiosyncrasies so finitely? That does not make sense to me. Furthermore it's not about you aiming to be sanctimonious it's that I've interpreted it as it being so (using your own words), so therefore your post comes across as lacking in parity and is ergo hypocritical.
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For some bizarre reason, you've taken a polite post and come back with quite a strongly worded retort.
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Well, quite, because that's exactly what you've just done to me. I thought my post was polite enough and you’ve come back with a strongly worded retort. I don’t take that as anything other than you not agreeing. When it comes to me I’m out of order? No sorry I’m not accepting that either.
Maybe, just maybe, it's you who needs to look at themselves and I'm willing to bet that you don't and haven’t because if you had it would change. Saying you do take things on board is just words.
As said you're not some omnipotent patriarch of 606 and just saying someone is being pathetic is asking for trouble because it's dismissive. If you dismiss someone they'll generally shout louder (for want of better words).
I hope this is taken on board as I feel generally I'm pretty fair and my criticisms are levelled by others at you.
Maybe it is time for self assessment? Maybe I have a point?
comment by Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Arouna,
When someone is condecending I'm generally more abusive than great. I'd go as far to say that I should have NVQ's
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Thats it Robbing, forget all the childish insults from the other day
As for the NVQ's....well we all know thats short for not very qualified You aim low
Arouna
They were adult insults as my child certainly does not talk like that. NVQ's are work based learning so it seems apt. Jog on you unt.
Winston (U16525)
Well, I lost track after a while. I may be wrong, but you've spent a while arguing with plenty of people, that's my point. I would suggest you'd just give it up, you're not going to win, you're outnumbered. People just don't seem to agree with your somewhat silly comments.
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posted on 29/7/14
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 minutes ago
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
That's right, I did.
However, it makes no sense to interpret my comment as being about Gerrard not being good enough.
You still can't explain why you think it's related.
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It can be related Your comment was in response to my comment which was itself a response to an allegation that he wasn't good enough. Can you understand that?
posted on 29/7/14
I had not even insulted the guy. he just went off calling me a child. Look at him now backtracking. Utter joke.
posted on 29/7/14
Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
No, I didn't. They are two very different things.
posted on 29/7/14
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
It's not related.
What has being a complete player got to do with not being good enough? Nothing.
posted on 29/7/14
"So basically you made a more stupid post than I previously thought."
"I had not even insulted the guy"
Oh dear.
Going to claim that calling my post stupid is not an insult, I suppose?
This is embarrassing.
posted on 29/7/14
Pirlo
Scholes
Seedorf
Lampard
Heskey
Gerrard
posted on 29/7/14
Why does everyone have a problem with Winston?
posted on 29/7/14
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 24 minutes ago
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
I think there's ways of putting these things. If you feel I've been a bit strong or over the top, just say so politely.
I have plenty of people thank me for being fair, open and admitting my mistakes, so whilst I take your comments on board, I think that your assessment of me is often based on a debate that has already headed south.
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Why do I have to be polite? Because you say so? Because if you do go down that route it sounds sanctimonious and a bit of a cop out rather than addressing the observation in hand which would generally be your writing style. You're not the patriarch of 606 and although obviously bright I do feel you lack certain elements of empathy when understanding why people kick off at you. It's not that they're losing a debate it's that you're offending them and when you do that and then say don't be abusive they will call you a hypocrite.
With regards to your second paragraph in fairness Winston I've also seen plenty of people say you're arrogant, condecending and patronising so I think trying to garner support from what others have said it flawed to say the least.
I've seen you say that people derail the debate by getting personal but I think you need to take on board people do not want to debate while your writing to them in such a way. It's not chicken and egg I'm afraid but rather a catalyst.
Anyways it's a ball ache replying to three people so I'll leave you with two.
posted on 29/7/14
TomShrimp (U19831)
Not everyone does.
posted on 29/7/14
Doesn't look that way to me.
posted on 29/7/14
I suspect if I met Winston in a boozer or professinally in some capacity we'd get on quite well.
posted on 29/7/14
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
Brilliant - we've actually struck upon an example by accident.
For some bizarre reason, you've taken a polite post and come back with quite a strongly worded retort.
Here's the major flaw in everything you said:
"Why do I have to be polite?"
Because it's a matter of interpretation.
If you just assume the person was aiming to be sanctimonious or offensive, and start insulting people, you might well be wrong.
That's why.
You're just making excuses for childish behaviour.
Do me favour - next time you see it, tell me. I still believe you're referring to my posts after the thread has already deteriorated.
I'd also say that this happens usually when it involves some sort of negative opinion about a Liverpool player.
Perhaps stop looking to blame someone else and take responsibility for your own behaviour.
posted on 29/7/14
TomShrimp (U19831)
A handful of Liverpool fans is now everyone?
posted on 29/7/14
comment by Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
I suspect if I met Winston in a boozer or professinally in some capacity we'd get on quite well.
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I agree.
I have to say though, that I really don't believe in using the forum to judge how people would behave in person!
posted on 29/7/14
By the way, this comment:
"Perhaps stop looking to blame someone else and take responsibility for your own behaviour."
Was just rhetorical, and not aimed at you personally.
posted on 29/7/14
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
It's not related.
What has being a complete player got to do with not being good enough? Nothing.
===========
I already explained this Winston. Can you read the 20 or so posts before yours? Do you know what context means? Do you know that something can have a different meaning or implication depending on context?
Holy!!!!
posted on 29/7/14
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
I don't need to.
It is inconceivable that when I said Scholes is a more complete player than Gerrard, I was actually saying 'Gerrard was not good enough'.
There's just not a scenario where it works.
So when you said 'I appeared to back up that pathetic comment' and then called my post stupid, you had obviously completely misinterpreted my point and not thought it through.
You jumped to a silly conclusion, used it as the basis to insult me and now want to blame me for all of this?
Incredible.
posted on 29/7/14
And that was not an insult. You're post was stupid going by the explanation you were giving which you backtracked from. its all good Winston. All this could have been avoided if you could express yourself better and be more articulate. If you are being specific, then be specific.
posted on 29/7/14
Winston (U16525)
I've been on here for 2 days, everyone I see seems to slate you, those who bother responding to some of your useless thoughts. Gerrard as a wide midfielder. What planet are we living on?
posted on 29/7/14
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
Calling someone's post stupid is not insulting?
I didn't backtrack from anything.
All this could have been avoided if you didn't jump to a conclusion that makes no sense, and then decide to be bullish and insulting.
Trying to blame me for your own behaviour is cringeworthy.
posted on 29/7/14
TomShrimp (U19831)
Have already said the term wide right was incorrect.
Perhaps you need to read the posts through again, but thanks for the input anyway.
posted on 29/7/14
comment by Winston (U16525)
Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
Brilliant - we've actually struck upon an example by accident.
For some bizarre reason, you've taken a polite post and come back with quite a strongly worded retort.
Here's the major flaw in everything you said:
"Why do I have to be polite?"
etc., etc
================
No I don't accept that. Firstly the biggest set to we've had was on institutional racism - nothing to do with football and my criticisms are constant so that observation lacks basis in my opinion.
If it's a matter of interpretation why are you so willing to pick upon people’s idiosyncrasies so finitely? That does not make sense to me. Furthermore it's not about you aiming to be sanctimonious it's that I've interpreted it as it being so (using your own words), so therefore your post comes across as lacking in parity and is ergo hypocritical.
========================
For some bizarre reason, you've taken a polite post and come back with quite a strongly worded retort.
=========================
Well, quite, because that's exactly what you've just done to me. I thought my post was polite enough and you’ve come back with a strongly worded retort. I don’t take that as anything other than you not agreeing. When it comes to me I’m out of order? No sorry I’m not accepting that either.
Maybe, just maybe, it's you who needs to look at themselves and I'm willing to bet that you don't and haven’t because if you had it would change. Saying you do take things on board is just words.
As said you're not some omnipotent patriarch of 606 and just saying someone is being pathetic is asking for trouble because it's dismissive. If you dismiss someone they'll generally shout louder (for want of better words).
I hope this is taken on board as I feel generally I'm pretty fair and my criticisms are levelled by others at you.
Maybe it is time for self assessment? Maybe I have a point?
posted on 29/7/14
comment by Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Arouna,
When someone is condecending I'm generally more abusive than great. I'd go as far to say that I should have NVQ's
==
Thats it Robbing, forget all the childish insults from the other day
As for the NVQ's....well we all know thats short for not very qualified You aim low
posted on 29/7/14
Arouna
They were adult insults as my child certainly does not talk like that. NVQ's are work based learning so it seems apt. Jog on you unt.
posted on 29/7/14
Winston (U16525)
Well, I lost track after a while. I may be wrong, but you've spent a while arguing with plenty of people, that's my point. I would suggest you'd just give it up, you're not going to win, you're outnumbered. People just don't seem to agree with your somewhat silly comments.
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