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posted on 9/8/14

I always find it funny when the "experts" *cough* on here come up with such definitive predictions for fights with a wee bit of abuse thrown in for good measure.

Every fight has the potential to be decided on one punch, making your predictions look ridiculous.

Brook puts me neither up or down, if he gets beat so be it, if he wins then well done. But to say he's gonna get destroyed etc is just daft. He's more than capable of winning this fight, although it's gonna be tough and he's the underdog going into it.

How many if you will come back on here and hold your hands up if he wins? Especially if he does so convincingly? Will you acknowledge you know nowhere near as much as boast you do, or will you hide behind excuses and say he got lucky?

It's not just this fight, it's almost every fight that at least one guy on here declares with outright conviction that someone is getting a doing.. And it rarely happens that way. I love boxing, but by fück boxing fans are some of the worst out there.

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posted on 9/8/14

it's common sense Juke. you don't need to be an expert to use common sense. Porter is an elite fighter, Brook is a beater of street sweepers.

of course one punch can change a fight, but the world can end tomorrow. you have to go by what you know...

posted on 9/8/14

Porter has beat Alexander who is hardly elite... A very competent boxer but lightweight puncher.

Exact same can be said for Malignaggi who realistically has outperformed in the past couple of years.

He's hardly an elite fighter..

There are only a few of those about, guys who dominate their weight classes. Who has Porter dominated that's beaten other guys who are highly rated?

Alexander and Malignaggi have hardly been wiping the floor with the top welterweights out there, mate.

posted on 9/8/14

"Porter has beat Alexander who is hardly elite... A very competent boxer but lightweight puncher."
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He is definitely elite, definitely top 10 at 147 which is by far the most stacked weight class in boxing. Floyd is also a very competent boxer but not a puncher. Doesn't mean he's not elite...

"Exact same can be said for Malignaggi who realistically has outperformed in the past couple of years.

He's hardly an elite fighter.."
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Pauli isn't elite and was well past his best, but the embarrassing thing is he was still a far better win than anything on Brook's pathetic resume.

"There are only a few of those about, guys who dominate their weight classes. Who has Porter dominated that's beaten other guys who are highly rated?"
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Alexander has beaten Matthysse (at 140) and been competitive with Bradley, he also beaten Maidana at 147 and been competitive with Porter. He also has an outstanding amateur background with over 300 wins.

"Alexander and Malignaggi have hardly been wiping the floor with the top welterweights out there, mate."
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That's because they're not the type of fighters who 'wipe the floor' with opponents, they're boxers and have achieved far more than Brook in the sport.

What do you think Brook has that can trouble Porter?

posted on 9/8/14

Matthysse won the Alexander fight

And Porter beat Alexander pretty convincingly.

I'm not saying Porter isn't a good fighter, he is.. I'm just saying that this is a 50/50 fight.

Brook has the technical ability to get in and out and keep Porter thinking twice about rushing in, if he is able to land decent shots with some power behind him. Broom has never had one punch KO power up but it is power that can disrupt an opponent.

Whether he utilises it and utilises his skills is another thing. In recent years he's seemed pretty uninterested during and in between his fights. This is his chance to fulfil the potential he showed early on, and if he does then it's his fight.

If he doesn't then Porter will have him for breakfast. As I say, it's an interesting fight and certainly 50/50. Can't say Brook is gonna get hammered until we see which Brook turns up on the night.

He could embarrass a few folk on here

posted on 9/8/14

"Matthysse won the Alexander fight"
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it was a close fight, I also scored it for Matthysse but Alexander's officially got the win.

"And Porter beat Alexander pretty convincingly."
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It was a decisive win, but it was competitive throughout.

"Brook has the technical ability to get in and out and keep Porter thinking twice about rushing in, if he is able to land decent shots with some power behind him. Broom has never had one punch KO power up but it is power that can disrupt an opponent."
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Who has Brook shown this technical ability against? I can look good against guys I pick off the street, literally. Brook hasn't got enough power to keep Porter off him, like I said before his KO isn't even impressive despite fighting nothing but bums so far in his career.

Porter will swarm him and I think Kell hasn't got the power, skill or heart to deal with that.

"If he doesn't then Porter will have him for breakfast. As I say, it's an interesting fight and certainly 50/50. Can't say Brook is gonna get hammered until we see which Brook turns up on the night."
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lol by no means is it a 50-50 fight, not even close.

If he gets battered, which he will, are you just gonna say 'he didn't turn up'? It's because he he's not very good, he's obviously trained his backside off for the biggest fight of his life, so there's no chance of him not 'turning up'. He will turn up and get smashed up.

posted on 9/8/14

"like I said before his KO isn't even impressive"

As I said, he doesn't have flash/one punch KO power but he does have the power to break up an opponent to rhythm.

Of course I'm not gonna come on here and make up excuses for him.. I haven't said he is gonna win the fight or pummel Porter. If he loses, it will probably be down to the fact he's not good enough.

If he wins it'll be because he is. You're gonna look like a bit of a fud if he does win though, seeing as you're so utterly convinced otherwise.

posted on 9/8/14

I look forward to your reaction when you realise within seconds of the first round that this even close to a 50-50 fight and a bit of a mismatch

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isn't even close*

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"I look forward to your reaction when you realise within seconds of the first round that this even close to a 50-50 fight"

Glad you agree

posted on 9/8/14

what is your prediction btw?

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Brook on points

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posted on 9/8/14

"Lara will school Canelo and comfortably win the fight. He might not get the decision though."

That ring a bell?

posted on 9/8/14

Well that's not too far from the truth. I and many others thought Lara won the fight and didn't get the decision. Canelo simply made it close than I expected.

Either way, those are two good fighters.

Porter vs Brook isn't a good fighter vs a good fighter...

posted on 9/8/14

I don't think he took anything for granted, Groves is just a better fighter and stylistically a bad match-up for Froch. Froch has a history of struggling against fighters who can box.

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I'm not trying to make you look foolish, you achieve that all by yourself.

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lol are you ret.arded? Froch struggled against Groves in both fights and was down on the cards before the KO/stoppages.

Also when did I say I've never been wrong with predictions?

posted on 9/8/14

I could bring up the millions of predictions you got wrong in D4's prediction league, but I'm not going to bother.

Lets not forget I'm the reigning champ in D4's prediction league

posted on 9/8/14

When have you been right?

Froch was coming on strong toward the end of the first fight, the second was even stevens.. Take the blinkers off.

You keep calling fights before they've even been fought, usually with woeful outcomes. All I'm saying is this isn't as clear cut as you think. Just as it wasn't with your previous predictions.

Boxing is a tough game.

posted on 9/8/14

You do realise I was having fun with that tournament?

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posted on 9/8/14

"What happened in the fights are irrelevant"



So what actually happened in the fights compared to your wrong predictions is irrelevant.

Next you'll be telling me that anything that happened in a fight you called right is irrelevant

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