"So what actually happened in the fights compared to your wrong predictions is irrelevant."
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no you massive dope, my comment you quoted was about Froch struggling against boxers and Groves being a bad stylistic match-up for him, which is 100% correct.
So although I got that prediction wrong, that's not relevant the the post I directly responded to. But you seem a bit simple so I don't expect you to understand
Froch looks like he struggles against any boxer no matter what their style.. That's due to his open defence and the fact he allows himself to be tagged. He relies on his chin, that's no secret. So any opponent is stylistically a poor match up against him, as his style is so open and unorthodox. He eats punches to deliver them, no matter who the opponent is.. Where you got it wrong is that Groves was never good enough to avoid being hit in return. Hence why he was on his way to losing the first fight before the premature stoppage.
Froch was never in trouble that second fight.
"Froch looks like he struggles against any boxer no matter what their style.. That's due to his open defence and the fact he allows himself to be tagged. He relies on his chin, that's no secret. So any opponent is stylistically a poor match up against him, as his style is so open and unorthodox. He eats punches to deliver them, no matter who the opponent is.. Where you got it wrong is that Groves was never good enough to avoid being hit in return. Hence why he was on his way to losing the first fight before the premature stoppage."
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Froch always struggles against boxers. He does well against flat-footed fighters who are there to be hit.
Groves was winning both fights. I think he would've definitely gone on to win the first one, he wasn't that badly hurt. The second one was weird, there was not enough action and I think that suited Groves, I thought the judge who had Groves 5-2 up was spot on, but that shot would've KO'd a horse.
Anyway, all of this is irrelevant. I admitted to getting the prediction wrong, my point is you just mentioned a couple of predictions I got wrong and pretended that somehow means I got lots of predictions wrong, which clearly isn't the case as my record proves...
Groves was spent in that first fight.
Anyhoo I'm off to my scratcher.. We'll see how your fine eye fares next week. G'night pal
he definitely wasn't spent lol, gtf outta here
anyway, g'night man
Predicting Groves to smash Froch was worse than predicting Brook to smash Porter. Froch's record poos all over Porter.
And Froch had fought a lot of guys with major stopping power, taken Groves best shot in the first fight and come back from it. It was a ludicrous prediction.
"Predicting Groves to smash Froch was worse than predicting Brook to smash Porter. Froch's record poos all over Porter."
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No, it's not. Groves had been in with DeGale, Glen Johnson (past it version) and was battering Froch in the first fight before the BS stoppage, so he was quite proven.
Brook's best win is against Senchenko's dead body...
"And Froch had fought a lot of guys with major stopping power, taken Groves best shot in the first fight and come back from it. It was a ludicrous prediction."
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I didn't actually predict Groves to stop Froch, I just said he'd get battered like the first fight. I was wrong, it is what it is. My predicting record is proven to be class
Even a blind squirrell finds a few nuts sometimes....
'sometimes' being the keyword
What do we reckon boys?
I keep flip flopping between Porter Ko Brook very early on or..Brook taking it to a late decision..
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Porter gotta be juicing.. That's why I think he might just go for the kill against Brook.
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Yeah I need to catch up on the press conferences and videos to be honest. Havent had time yet. Need to do my fantasy team as well
Is brook flat footed? Does he move around much.. In fact do either of them move around the ring much?
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Brook has good footwork. He isn't a dancer, but he has a ood sense of when to move. He maintains a strong base as he moves, which enables him to counter with power. He is rarely off balance.
Regarding promotion, Brook is way too relaxed, he doesn't engage in hype building trash talk. Fine if you dominate in the ring, but I suspect he might get stopped early.
Porter is tough, but he isnt special. It's just hard to pick Brook as he is completely unknown at this
Vik
It's just hard to pick Brook as he is completely unknown at this
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Yeah thats my thinking too but i have to say, im not a follower of porter much so i dont really know what he brings to the table either..
Porter is a monster, I don't see many beating him at 147
lol Porter was trying to be a bit flashy at the conference yesterday, but you can tell it really didn't come naturally to him. He's a good guy.
I've liked the way Brook has behaved in the build up to this fight and give him credit for finally stepping him, I used to dislike him because of his refusal to step up, regardless of how this fight goes, he now has me respect.
I really don't see the fight being competitive
Brook actually has the right style to cause Porter problems, but I don't think he's good enough in terms of level. He's got a good, sharp jab, but that's at domestic level, I don't think it's gonna be good enough to keep somebody like Porter off him.
He doesn't move his head and keeps his hands too low, Porter's going to throw some of those wild,leaping left hooks like there's no tomorrow if Brook doesn't earn his respect with some crisp jabs and some straight rights. I don't think Brook's a big puncher, but he has respectable, decent power.
All the best to Kell in this one, I'd love him to win but I just can't see it.
Brook to get shook in my book
Kamran getting nervous and slightly back-tracking already just face it Kam, Porter's gunna loseeeeeeeee, he's a loser like you
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posted on 9/8/14
"So what actually happened in the fights compared to your wrong predictions is irrelevant."
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no you massive dope, my comment you quoted was about Froch struggling against boxers and Groves being a bad stylistic match-up for him, which is 100% correct.
So although I got that prediction wrong, that's not relevant the the post I directly responded to. But you seem a bit simple so I don't expect you to understand
posted on 9/8/14
Froch looks like he struggles against any boxer no matter what their style.. That's due to his open defence and the fact he allows himself to be tagged. He relies on his chin, that's no secret. So any opponent is stylistically a poor match up against him, as his style is so open and unorthodox. He eats punches to deliver them, no matter who the opponent is.. Where you got it wrong is that Groves was never good enough to avoid being hit in return. Hence why he was on his way to losing the first fight before the premature stoppage.
Froch was never in trouble that second fight.
posted on 9/8/14
"Froch looks like he struggles against any boxer no matter what their style.. That's due to his open defence and the fact he allows himself to be tagged. He relies on his chin, that's no secret. So any opponent is stylistically a poor match up against him, as his style is so open and unorthodox. He eats punches to deliver them, no matter who the opponent is.. Where you got it wrong is that Groves was never good enough to avoid being hit in return. Hence why he was on his way to losing the first fight before the premature stoppage."
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Froch always struggles against boxers. He does well against flat-footed fighters who are there to be hit.
Groves was winning both fights. I think he would've definitely gone on to win the first one, he wasn't that badly hurt. The second one was weird, there was not enough action and I think that suited Groves, I thought the judge who had Groves 5-2 up was spot on, but that shot would've KO'd a horse.
Anyway, all of this is irrelevant. I admitted to getting the prediction wrong, my point is you just mentioned a couple of predictions I got wrong and pretended that somehow means I got lots of predictions wrong, which clearly isn't the case as my record proves...
posted on 9/8/14
Groves was spent in that first fight.
Anyhoo I'm off to my scratcher.. We'll see how your fine eye fares next week. G'night pal
posted on 9/8/14
he definitely wasn't spent lol, gtf outta here
anyway, g'night man
posted on 9/8/14
Predicting Groves to smash Froch was worse than predicting Brook to smash Porter. Froch's record poos all over Porter.
posted on 9/8/14
And Froch had fought a lot of guys with major stopping power, taken Groves best shot in the first fight and come back from it. It was a ludicrous prediction.
posted on 9/8/14
"Predicting Groves to smash Froch was worse than predicting Brook to smash Porter. Froch's record poos all over Porter."
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No, it's not. Groves had been in with DeGale, Glen Johnson (past it version) and was battering Froch in the first fight before the BS stoppage, so he was quite proven.
Brook's best win is against Senchenko's dead body...
"And Froch had fought a lot of guys with major stopping power, taken Groves best shot in the first fight and come back from it. It was a ludicrous prediction."
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I didn't actually predict Groves to stop Froch, I just said he'd get battered like the first fight. I was wrong, it is what it is. My predicting record is proven to be class
posted on 10/8/14
Even a blind squirrell finds a few nuts sometimes....
posted on 10/8/14
'sometimes' being the keyword
posted on 15/8/14
What do we reckon boys?
I keep flip flopping between Porter Ko Brook very early on or..Brook taking it to a late decision..
posted on 15/8/14
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posted on 15/8/14
Just asked admin to bump this thread. We can make this the fight night thread.
posted on 15/8/14
Porter gotta be juicing.. That's why I think he might just go for the kill against Brook.
posted on 15/8/14
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posted on 15/8/14
Yeah I need to catch up on the press conferences and videos to be honest. Havent had time yet. Need to do my fantasy team as well
Is brook flat footed? Does he move around much.. In fact do either of them move around the ring much?
posted on 15/8/14
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posted on 15/8/14
Brook has good footwork. He isn't a dancer, but he has a ood sense of when to move. He maintains a strong base as he moves, which enables him to counter with power. He is rarely off balance.
Regarding promotion, Brook is way too relaxed, he doesn't engage in hype building trash talk. Fine if you dominate in the ring, but I suspect he might get stopped early.
Porter is tough, but he isnt special. It's just hard to pick Brook as he is completely unknown at this
posted on 15/8/14
this level
posted on 15/8/14
Vik
It's just hard to pick Brook as he is completely unknown at this
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Yeah thats my thinking too but i have to say, im not a follower of porter much so i dont really know what he brings to the table either..
posted on 15/8/14
Porter is a monster, I don't see many beating him at 147
lol Porter was trying to be a bit flashy at the conference yesterday, but you can tell it really didn't come naturally to him. He's a good guy.
I've liked the way Brook has behaved in the build up to this fight and give him credit for finally stepping him, I used to dislike him because of his refusal to step up, regardless of how this fight goes, he now has me respect.
I really don't see the fight being competitive
posted on 15/8/14
Brook actually has the right style to cause Porter problems, but I don't think he's good enough in terms of level. He's got a good, sharp jab, but that's at domestic level, I don't think it's gonna be good enough to keep somebody like Porter off him.
He doesn't move his head and keeps his hands too low, Porter's going to throw some of those wild,leaping left hooks like there's no tomorrow if Brook doesn't earn his respect with some crisp jabs and some straight rights. I don't think Brook's a big puncher, but he has respectable, decent power.
posted on 15/8/14
All the best to Kell in this one, I'd love him to win but I just can't see it.
Brook to get shook in my book
posted on 16/8/14
Kamran getting nervous and slightly back-tracking already just face it Kam, Porter's gunna loseeeeeeeee, he's a loser like you
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