comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 21 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by phil neville has three left feet (U13806)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/11060009/Lewis-Hamiltons-accusation-against-Nico-Rosberg-after-Belgian-Grand-Prix-the-latest-sign-of-persecution-complex.html

Pretty much on the money,someone who is not towing the British media line when it comes to all things Hamilton
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yeh i must admit hamilton is starting to come across as a bit weak minded and childish with his constant petulant whining and moaning about rosberg and what is even worse he is deliberately trying to drop his team mate in the cart by blubbering to anybody that will listen that rosberg took him out on purpose which as hamilton knows is garbage -

mind you this kind of behavior is nothing new from hamilton so people should now know what to expect from him when things are not going his way -

-------- fair play to rosberg he is matching hamilton for speed and ability and is camly getting on with the job in hand without all the blubbering and accusing that again brings into question hamiltons fragile character --

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Let me just analyse your comment here martial, which i take a few reservations from.

yeh i must admit hamilton is starting to come across as a bit weak minded and childish with his constant petulant whining and moaning
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What do you mean by weak minded - being gutted he hasnt managed to finish a race because of no fault of his own..... is that weak minded or a passion to win?

I dont understand the childish bit

he is deliberately trying to drop his team mate in the cart by blubbering to anybody that will listen that rosberg took him out on purpose which as hamilton knows is garbage -
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Hamilton didnt say he did it on purpose - Nico said that. However i agree, internal affairs shouldnt be publicised, but makes for a much more entertaining spectacle
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fair play to rosberg he is matching hamilton for speed and ability and is camly getting
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Matching hamilton for speed, is absolutely factually incorrect. Nothing you say will change my mind, so dont bother responding, just wanted to let you know i disagree.

Nico definetely isnt calmly getting on with it is he. He is "deliberately" putting his car in risky places to try and gain an advantage. Which has cost him points, his team points and his reputation. Quietly getting on with it would be, not hitting your team mate, settling for 2nd, or challenging further down the line. Not on lap 2.

Please also remember the media scrutiny on Lewis. He is british, so our media take more interest in what he says.

i will fully support the idea of saying to lewis, shut your mouth, let your racing do the talking, because you are clearly quicker and a better racer. You have nothing to prove. But im afraid your analysis, of Nico is as quick and lewis is always whining is a bit off the mark for me


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does anybody apart from hamilton and hamiltons teenage fans really believe that rosberg is in a premeditated fashion deliberately going out on the track to cheat and ruin hamiltons races , it just does not happen like that in F1 and to my knowledge never has done -

for hamilton to suggest that rosberg is doing it is in my view typical hamilton petulance that at times comes across as just plain embarrassing to witness hence my comments --

and sorry from what i have seen so far this year there is very little between them in speed and ability with some evidence that rosbergs stronger mental character is starting to unravel lewis --

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What have u seen to say rosbergs quicker
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never said rosberg is quicker , having said that he might well be as qualifying would suggest that hamilton is not the one lap whizz that his fans think he is -

---- in all seriousness i believe the two drivers are very evenly matched this year with maybe rosbergs stronger mental character being the difference between the pair -

comment by M.U.D.D (U9612)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
That telegraph article is a disgrace, what a pathetic excuse for journalism.

Hamilton has a persecution complex because someone hit him and he said so? My days, I do love the people who hate the guy.

They just show that their hatred for him is nothing to do with the sport because every single thing Hamilton does, whining, whinging, petulance, etc is displayed by every single driver on the grid.

Hamilton's however are always an issue, not the others
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i dunno manx -- with the exception of mansell that you never saw i have never seen anybody in F1 with such a fragile character as hamilton -
-------- mind you having said that mansell was a more resilient character altogether because of the hard knocks in life he had taken and the tougher era than the current one in which he drove -

lewis is obviously a good driver but it is all the other pieces of his fragile character that at times makes you a little embarrassed for him --

Typical privileged boy attitude from Hamilton. Had everything in his life handed to him on a silver platter, whilst Rosberg had to work his way up from the gutter.

I never saw Mansell . Truly that is an idiotic statement. Said it before and I'll say it again. I can wager my life that I have been to more races than you and watched Senna, Mansell and Prost live more times than you. I also do research to formulate opinions and do not pll them ot of my backside like you do.

I remember a certain Fernando Alonso who also had a persection complex as the writer calls it who believed the world was against him because mclaren refsed to give him preferantial treatment. Even went so far as blackmail.

The poor soul. Used to cry on the radio so mch and in Valencia it got so bad even his engineer told him to focus on the job when he felt the evil hellspawn Hamilton had overtaken the safety car. I wold wager there was nothing wrong with what he used to do and the fragility of his temprament was not highlighted.

Then Rosberg is praised for cheating bt that's okay because it is against satans lovechild Hamilton.

One wonders what the view wold be if it was the other way round. I've personally had enough and will stop wasting my time

Hobo..... "Typical privileged boy attitude from Hamilton. Had everything in his life handed to him on a silver platter, whilst Rosberg had to work his way up from the gutter." Yes the gutter of Monte Carlo. Must have been really tough for him, as opposed to the privileged a d easy life on the streets of Stevenage that Hamilton had to endure.

Good job you put a at the end.

comment by M.U.D.D (U9612)
posted 21 minutes ago
I never saw Mansell. Truly that is an idiotic statement. Said it before and I'll say it again. I can wager my life that I have been to more races than you and watched Senna, Mansell and Prost live more times than you. I also do research to formulate opinions and do not pll them ot of my backside like you do.

I remember a certain Fernando Alonso who also had a persection complex as the writer calls it who believed the world was against him because mclaren refsed to give him preferantial treatment. Even went so far as blackmail.

The poor soul. Used to cry on the radio so mch and in Valencia it got so bad even his engineer told him to focus on the job when he felt the evil hellspawn Hamilton had overtaken the safety car. I wold wager there was nothing wrong with what he used to do and the fragility of his temprament was not highlighted.

Then Rosberg is praised for cheating bt that's okay because it is against satans lovechild Hamilton.

One wonders what the view wold be if it was the other way round. I've personally had enough and will stop wasting my time
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good morning manx

come on manx chill out mate i never meant anything derogatory by hinting you never saw mansell it was merely the closest comparison i could think of too hamilton in personality and for that matter driving ability ,
as you were not even born when he started his F1 career it stands to reason you knew very little about him , where as i am something of an authority on him so i can make a direct comparison with lewis -

what has alonso and 07 got to do with anything --- you have to accept that when hamilton makes a pra/tt of himself as he has occasionally from 2009 onwards and as he is this year with his constant moaning about rosberg , moping on the podiums , trying to drop rosberg in it , people are entitled to see flaws in his character and are allowed to mention them on forums such as this --

They ALL moan, always have. Not a new thing. The difference is we now get to hear them on their radios. ALL includes Rosberg.. "why isn't he letting me through, boo hoo"

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 5 minutes ago
They ALL moan, always have. Not a new thing. The difference is we now get to hear them on their radios. ALL includes Rosberg.. "why isn't he letting me through, boo hoo"
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How dare you say they all moan? Didn't you hear vettel and alonso at SIlverstone?

Hamilton moan = unacceptable
Everyone else moan = that is fine

I have no problems with people liking drivers or not liking them but when you say a driver is petulant or whines and criticise him for it whilst ignoring others who do the exact same thing. It indicates you have a problem with that driver doing it alone which shows an incredible bias

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 3 minutes ago
They ALL moan, always have. Not a new thing. The difference is we now get to hear them on their radios. ALL includes Rosberg.. "why isn't he letting me through, boo hoo"
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good morning go cell

agreed they all have a little moan in the car , wave there arms at other drivers etc , difference is they dont all behave like a little spoilt child that cant have his sweeties when they are in the public domain -
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So Rosberg crying because Hamilton wouldn't SLOW down to let him get past because he was going quicker wasn't acting like a spoilt child then?

Totally agree MUDD, it's called hypocrisy.

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 3 minutes ago
So Rosberg crying because Hamilton wouldn't SLOW down to let him get past because he was going quicker wasn't acting like a spoilt child then?

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Rosberg blamed the british fans as well for the boos, that is not spoilt or petulant. The boos were from more than the brits.

Funny thing is that Hamilton had more support in Germany than Rosberg did.

Oh and Rosberg mopes and sulks on the podium just the same.

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 26 seconds ago
So Rosberg crying because Hamilton wouldn't SLOW down to let him get past because he was going quicker wasn't acting like a spoilt child then?

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did he keep moaning -- hamilton was told to let him thru and quite rightly did not -
-------- did rosberg actually make a big thing about it -

hamilton has done nothing but mope on the podiums and moan about rosberg since monaco onwards which gets a little tedious for those of us that tire of seeing a 30 year old man act like a child that cant have a toffee --

MUDD, probably due to the fact that Rosberg once said he didn't consider himself German, and historically associating himself with Monaco flag.
Also his name isn't Schumacher. Even Vettel was / isn't overly popular in Germany.

MA, wouldn't you after what Rosberg did in Monaco?

Both Rosberg and Hamilton mope when the other finishes on a higher step.
At least Hamilton has come out this weekend with some conciliatory remarks.

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 2 minutes ago
MA, wouldn't you after what Rosberg did in Monaco?
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no i would"nt as i dont believe rosberg did anything wrong ,

does any driver cynically go out to screw his team mate on the track these days with the huge financial implications of the constructors championship involved . , i just dont believe it happens or in all probability has ever happened -

This is what I've been talking about mate. They only see Hamilton doing it, no one else.

comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 2 minutes ago
MA, wouldn't you after what Rosberg did in Monaco?
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no i would"nt as i dont believe rosberg did anything wrong ,

does any driver cynically go out to screw his team mate on the track these days with the huge financial implications of the constructors championship involved . , i just dont believe it happens or in all probability has ever happened -
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Well Rosberg did, has admitted to doing it and has been fined for doing it.

First of all there was no reason for him to take to the escape road, and secondly once on the escape road and out of danger to others, what possessed him to engage reverse and put his car back into a dangerous position and cause the yellow flags? It's not as if he could rejoin the track and go round for another attempt is it?

comment by M.U.D.D (U9612)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 2 minutes ago
MA, wouldn't you after what Rosberg did in Monaco?
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no i would"nt as i dont believe rosberg did anything wrong ,

does any driver cynically go out to screw his team mate on the track these days with the huge financial implications of the constructors championship involved . , i just dont believe it happens or in all probability has ever happened -
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Well Rosberg did, has admitted to doing it and has been fined for doing it.
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has he ---- you will have to run that by me again manx -

did rosberg admit he cynically took hamilton out -
----------- we both know he did"nt --

You clearly do not know it, the rest of the world does.

To be fair MUDD he didn't admit to taking Hamilton out, just to leaving his car in a position where it was almost certainly cause an accident.

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 23 seconds ago
To be fair MUDD he didn't admit to taking Hamilton out, just to leaving his car in a position where it was almost certainly cause an accident.
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If he had admitted he did it to take him out in public he could get disqualified from the championship. It's happened before.

I have no issues with nico putting his car there whatsoever, I just want people to stop making out he is a poor innocent boy who does nothing sneaky and underhanded