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You can't be worse than us. We currently have Debuchy, Koscielny, Arteta, Ramsey, Ozil, Walcott and Giroud all out who would all get into our first 11 and then theres squad players like Gnabry and Sanogo out too

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It's annoying, but all squads suffer injuries.

Markovic is a loss we can cover. He's still a youngster, who has been struggling for form.

There is a worrying amount of injuries incurred on international duty. It would be interesting to see stats of how many get injured with their country vs with clubs.

Stuff like this happens either with club, international or just in training. Frustrating all the same.

comment by Besic Instinct (U1308)
posted 4 minutes ago
Stuff like this happens either with club, international or just in training. Frustrating all the same.
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It does. But, if you look at the amount of injuries sustained on club vs country duty, and adjust it for time spent with either, im sure international duty would have a much higher injuries per day than club does.

And if that's the case, there's an issue there that needs to be addressed.

comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
You can't be worse than us. We currently have Debuchy, Koscielny, Arteta, Ramsey, Ozil, Walcott and Giroud all out who would all get into our first 11 and then theres squad players like Gnabry and Sanogo out too
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Barkley,Stones,Mirallas,Coleman and McCarthy.

Joe Allen, Danny Sturridge, Dejan Lovren, Mammmadou Sakho, Glen Johnson (Glen has just returned, but is likely short of full match fitness) who are all first teamers and Jon Flanagan, Suso, Lazar Markovic and Emre Can from our squad. Everyone can play this game.

international are always going to create more injuries due to loads of factors!

The most obvious been the major tournaments are held straight off the back of a long season of 40 games + with only a weeks rest before back in training.

The coaching staff and medical staff do not work week in week out with the players so are not as aware of the limits a players body has. They will be very unlikely to take kindly to some coach/ medical staff from the players club telling them what they should or shouldn't be doing which I can't blame them for tbh.

The state of some pitches that the players have to play on at international level is just embarrassing and can cause serious damage as well

The standard of challenge is another issue when you play lesser opposition

All in all it is not something that can be addressed unless you want to foot out a huge bill to get each player a personal coach from their respective club with personal groundsman to boot

At international level, the players that play (from teams like liverpool/arsenal etc) are top caliber and usually first team starters or at least bench players part of the rotation, so when they go down injured on international duty you notice it more in your team's 18 man squad.

Also, these players are harder to replace and as such, the gap left is far more visible.

good he needs a bit of time watching how we play. all our new boys do. lallana has already

comment by Igor Biscan's Missing Goal Celebration (U15416)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by Besic Instinct (U1308)
posted 4 minutes ago
Stuff like this happens either with club, international or just in training. Frustrating all the same.
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It does. But, if you look at the amount of injuries sustained on club vs country duty, and adjust it for time spent with either, im sure international duty would have a much higher injuries per day than club does.

And if that's the case, there's an issue there that needs to be addressed.

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It would be interesting to see some sort of comparison based on percentage games league/international and how many games missed.

However Everton had two players out from the same injury for last season. One at club training, one playing an international.

good he needs a bit of time watching how we play. all our new boys do. lallana has already

I personally feel we get so many injuries on international duty because we train differently to most other clubs (and therefore countries).

The bodies then suffer a lapse because of the different training regime with all the winter internationals.

That's the downside.

The upside is that we are stronger in the second half of the season.

I think superior fitness was a factor in our success last season, and am hopeful we will see similar from Feb-May 2015.

This could be a pattern we see regularly.

Joe Allen, Danny Sturridge, Dejan Lovren, Mammmadou Sakho, Glen Johnson (Glen has just returned, but is likely short of full match fitness) who are all first teamers
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No, they aren't. Only Sturridge, Lovren and Johnson are first teamers there. And Johnson isn't injured, so why are you including him?

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 47 minutes ago
Joe Allen, Danny Sturridge, Dejan Lovren, Mammmadou Sakho, Glen Johnson (Glen has just returned, but is likely short of full match fitness) who are all first teamers
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No, they aren't. Only Sturridge, Lovren and Johnson are first teamers there. And Johnson isn't injured, so why are you including him?
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So Allen and Sakho aren't first teamers? Oh right, thanks for letting us Liverpool fans know. Brendon will appreciate your superior knowledge on the matter, also

The coaching staff and medical staff do not work week in week out with the players so are not as aware of the limits a players body has. They will be very unlikely to take kindly to some coach/ medical staff from the players club telling them what they should or shouldn't be doing which I can't blame them for tbh.
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So on one hand you acknowledge international coaches aren't aware of a players physical limits, and on the other you're basically saying club coaches have no right to inform international coaches if these limits in order to avoid injury?

Do you realise how non sensical that is?

comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 9 minutes ago
The coaching staff and medical staff do not work week in week out with the players so are not as aware of the limits a players body has. They will be very unlikely to take kindly to some coach/ medical staff from the players club telling them what they should or shouldn't be doing which I can't blame them for tbh.
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So on one hand you acknowledge international coaches aren't aware of a players physical limits, and on the other you're basically saying club coaches have no right to inform international coaches if these limits in order to avoid injury?

Do you realise how non sensical that is?

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Any professional should not do something that they feel will impact on their performance. Footballers train every single day and should know what they should/shouldn't do. If Sturridge for example has a set plan at Liverpool why is he allowing it to be change while away with England......the same for any player(used a liverpool player example due to thread)

Sorry but that's bollox. If you've been called up to the England team and refuse to train because you feel an injury is on the way you're putting your place at risk. In fact I reckon the manager would think it's unprofessional.

So Allen and Sakho aren't first teamers? Oh right, thanks for letting us Liverpool fans know. Brendon will appreciate your superior knowledge on the matter, also
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Sakho recently threw a strop for not even making the bench in a game. Allen, other than his first few months at 'Pool has never been a regular starter. Important squad players, maybe. But they aren't starters.

comment by Robbing_Hoody - Sometimes I choose my words carefully during a debate to suit my argument (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
Sorry but that's bollox. If you've been called up to the England team and refuse to train because you feel an injury is on the way you're putting your place at risk. In fact I reckon the manager would think it's unprofessional.

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Who said refuse to train, I said doing something you don't think will help your performance.

Didn't Rodgers mention that Sturridge has a personalised training plan? I believe people place the blame on the coaches(and Roy in Liverpools case) but how about the professional who does something he knows could do him harm?

By saying no, is that not professional and if they are key to the side then they won't get dropped

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 3 minutes ago
So Allen and Sakho aren't first teamers? Oh right, thanks for letting us Liverpool fans know. Brendon will appreciate your superior knowledge on the matter, also
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Sakho recently threw a strop for not even making the bench in a game. Allen, other than his first few months at 'Pool has never been a regular starter. Important squad players, maybe. But they aren't starters.
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When fit, both are regular starters. Not every game, but they're still classed as first teamers.

When fit, both are regular starters.
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No, they aren't. Skrtel and Lovren are your regular CB's. Gerrard and Henderson are your only regular midfielders. Then there's a wide pool of players that MAY start, of which Allen is one.

dont blame sakho, how the hell did kolo get picked for the bench over him when kolo nearly cost us in the cup