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who spotted that MB cost Hamilton the race?

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posted on 10/11/14

The nonsense begins again

posted on 10/11/14

Jist his humble opinion mudd l, dont get urself all in a twist bruvver

posted on 10/11/14

Nah, I prefer facts, arging with ill formed illogical opinions is a waste of time

posted on 10/11/14

comment by M.U.D.D - Luke Shaw makes me throb with desire (U9612)
posted 4 minutes ago
Nah, I prefer facts, arging with ill formed illogical opinions is a waste of time
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come on manx we are all allowed our opinion on here mate ,
----------- the fact of the matter is rosberg never once allowed lewis the chance to try a pass on him throut the race which tells me he was controlling the race at the pace he wanted and maybe had a little in reserve if he needed it -

this is no detriment to hamilton , just my opinion that rosberg on the day had his measure --

posted on 10/11/14

Wassssa mattter mudd u 2 much of a coward to massdebate with him

posted on 10/11/14

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 28 seconds ago
Wassssa mattter mudd u 2 much of a coward to massdebate with him
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dear dear me --- you really do get yourself in a little tizzy when anybody has a different opinion than you on here
------------ lets also not forget i have been nothing but polite and civil to you whilst having a different opinion

posted on 10/11/14

Awww poor u

posted on 10/11/14

Being faster doesn't mean being able to get past. However without his half spin, Hamilton would have been ahead after his ensuing pitstop. The speed advantage he obviously had, I believe he would have pulled away from Rosberg to build a large enough gap to properly manage his lead. Unlike what actually happened, where Rosberg barely managed to keep Hamilton out of DRS range. I'm not saying Rosberg didn't do a good job, just that he wasn't as quick as Hamilton in the race.

posted on 10/11/14

Gc, he widnt necessarily pf been ahead. However my argument is against the pathetically stupid opinion that rosberg was in control of the pace and gap to lewis.

posted on 10/11/14

Not disagreeing with you BWFCCLEGG.

posted on 10/11/14

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 25 minutes ago
Being faster doesn't mean being able to get past. However without his half spin, Hamilton would have been ahead after his ensuing pitstop. The speed advantage he obviously had, I believe he would have pulled away from Rosberg to build a large enough gap to properly manage his lead. Unlike what actually happened, where Rosberg barely managed to keep Hamilton out of DRS range. I'm not saying Rosberg didn't do a good job, just that he wasn't as quick as Hamilton in the race.
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not that it matters but i have my doubts whether hamilton would have jumped rosberg at the pit stop ,

i personally dont think hamilton had a speed advantage over rosberg as rosberg in my opinion was driving a tactical race and just dictating the pace he wanted to race at -

what has convinced me is if you really watch each of the 71 laps carefully not once was hamilton ever in a position or was allowed to be in a position to try a passing maneuver on rosberg and rosberg cleverly slipped in the occasional fastest lap as and when he needed to -

to my way of thinking GC had hamilton been quicker he would have tried at least one pass if not more especially in the last 20 laps when the gap was 1- 2 secs or at the very least put himself in a position to try a pass , throw rosberg a few dummies but he never did --

posted on 10/11/14

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 16 minutes ago
Gc, he widnt necessarily pf been ahead. However my argument is against the pathetically stupid opinion that rosberg was in control of the pace and gap to lewis.
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http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/9558567/Rosberg-was-in-control-

posted on 10/11/14

That's your opinion MA, mine is that Hamilton was faster.

posted on 11/11/14

And that link just states Rosberg's own opinion. Well he would say that wouldn't he. Definitely getting to be smug....

posted on 11/11/14

comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 16 minutes ago
Gc, he widnt necessarily pf been ahead. However my argument is against the pathetically stupid opinion that rosberg was in control of the pace and gap to lewis.
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http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/9558567/Rosberg-was-in-control-
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Why are u sharing that article??????

posted on 11/11/14

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 12 minutes ago
That's your opinion MA, mine is that Hamilton was faster.
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fair play to your opinion GC , like mine it has some merit

posted on 11/11/14

Always refreshing to see different opinions. The facts however are in black and white and without the spin Hamilton would have been ahead of Rosberg and beaten him.

This was clearly displayed in a race sim on SKY.

comment by trebs (U1014)

posted on 11/11/14

Hamilton made a mistake when he spun, but what we forget is that Rosberg was going for it on his tyres and it's unknown what his lap time would be as he was told about the spin early on in the lap.

In the race, Hamilton had no opportunity to overtake Rosberg, despite gaining time. Rosberg just drove a little more cautiously than Hamilton and took things steady. It's clear from the qualifying and practice sessions that he had a better single-lap pace.

posted on 11/11/14

comment by Trebs (U1014)
posted 36 minutes ago
Hamilton made a mistake when he spun, but what we forget is that Rosberg was going for it on his tyres and it's unknown what his lap time would be as he was told about the spin early on in the lap.

In the race, Hamilton had no opportunity to overtake Rosberg, despite gaining time. Rosberg just drove a little more cautiously than Hamilton and took things steady. It's clear from the qualifying and practice sessions that he had a better single-lap pace.
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Perfectlt legitimate opinion. However the point im arguing was that rosberg was in control. Which is madness

posted on 12/11/14

comment by Trebs (U1014)
posted 14 hours, 34 minutes ago
Hamilton made a mistake when he spun, but what we forget is that Rosberg was going for it on his tyres and it's unknown what his lap time would be as he was told about the spin early on in the lap.

In the race, Hamilton had no opportunity to overtake Rosberg, despite gaining time. Rosberg just drove a little more cautiously than Hamilton and took things steady. It's clear from the qualifying and practice sessions that he had a better single-lap pace.
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i actually think rosberg drove a clever race to control lewis , controlling the gap so lewis could not try a pass and looking after his tyres at the same time -

i suspect he could have extended the gap had he wished but did the clever thing in just controlling the gap and throwing in the occasional fastest lap to prevent lewis ever being in a passing position -

posted on 12/11/14

Question to all.
IF Hamilton hadn't spun and had taken the lead, does anyone think Rosberg would have been able to keep in touch with Hamilton and passed him.
Conjecture I know but your opinions.

posted on 12/11/14

No chance, Hamilton had the faster package

posted on 12/11/14

MUDD

posted on 12/11/14

Mercedes-Benz didn't spin the car, Hamilton did. Had he gone .2 of a second slower round that corner he would have gained 6.8 seconds and still won the race.
In my book that tells me HAMILTON is at fault. I am a big fan of his and he has driven well most of the year and deserves to be World Champion, certainly more than Rosberg. Monte Carlo and Canada prove that. But Mercedes-Benz apologising to a driver for HIS spin is sycophancy gone too far.
Every driver must take responsibility for the car.

posted on 12/11/14

Pob - exactly right, hamilton did admit fault immediately. Martial seems to believe nico was controlling the race n could have gone quicker and won the race regardless (despite providing zero evidence apart from an article quoting nico rosberg - superb evidence u will agree)

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