There was never a moment where you thought Hamilton was going to overtake Rosberg, he never had the chance to make an attempt.

Therefore, I would say Rosberg controlled the race. I think it's wrong to say he scraped the win, just barely won. He won and that's that. Hamilton will probably win the championship.

Trebs - would you refer to a formula 1 driver as being in control, by ALLOWING a rival to get within half a second. I would

If he ALLOWED him to get that close on purpose, he was in control. However, the question the gets raised, why would any driver ALLOW a rival to get within half a second. Actually ALLOW this to happen, at such great risk, of a potential collision, a potential overtake, backmarkers causing problems.

???

Well, he got within half a second but was unable to make a pass, so yes i would say rosberg was in control. He maybe didn't allow it but when the situation occurred he had plenty to ensure that Hamilton couldn't overtake.

No one is suggesting that Nico did not deserve to win the race or scraped a win. It just makes no sense to throw away a 7 second lead.

Well our definition of control is vastly different.

Control would be managing a gap as to avoid risk. Having no control over risk, is erm.....having no control.

He may well of had enough to prevent a pass eith hindsight, but there is no chance hr actually knew he had enough in the tank, otherwise he wouldnt of allowed the gap to be closed in the first place. Risk management basically.

comment by Trebs (U1014)
posted 9 hours, 3 minutes ago
There was never a moment where you thought Hamilton was going to overtake Rosberg, he never had the chance to make an attempt.

Therefore, I would say Rosberg controlled the race. I think it's wrong to say he scraped the win, just barely won. He won and that's that. Hamilton will probably win the championship.
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must admit trebs i watched quite a bit of the on board camera footage from hamiltons car and rosberg in the final stint / 20 laps had him easily covered every lap ,
to be honest it was clearly a very clever bit of tactical driving from rosberg as in reality from hamiltons in car footage rosberg never allowed hamilton to get close enough to even think about a pass let alone even attempt one which obviously explains why hamilton never did -

must admit with 20 laps to do it i was expecting hamilton to make at least one attempt at a pass but even in the DRS zones rosberg visibly had the speed to cover him --

Watched that much of it u didnt know what the gap was

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 1 minute ago
Watched that much of it u didnt know what the gap was
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i could see visably what the gap was from the on board footage from hamiltons car and rosberg had him easily covered -
----------- total control by rosberg in the final stint

Npt occured to u hamilton was controlling the gap, knowing second was good enough.....

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 3 minutes ago
Npt occured to u hamilton was controlling the gap, knowing second was good enough.....
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so after pushing the car so hard desperately trying to undercut rosberg for the lead hamilton span on lap 28
------------ but he was only trying to finish 2nd -

------------------ interesting

Yeh perhaps he thought, nah thers no need, second stint il jus get close enough in case he slips up, but i dont need to pass so il jus sit here alf a.second behind

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeh perhaps he thought, nah thers no need, second stint il jus get close enough in case he slips up, but i dont need to pass so il jus sit here alf a.second behind
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you will be telling me the one about goldilocks and the three bears next
BW

Nah. Uve already done that

I think the race could have gone on for another 20 laps and Rosberg would have still won. He wasn't driving as quickly as Hamilton, so by that definition he's not in control. But he drove quickly enough to win the race and I felt that he could have done another stint just fine.

comment by Trebs (U1014)
posted 5 hours, 20 minutes ago
I think the race could have gone on for another 20 laps and Rosberg would have still won. He wasn't driving as quickly as Hamilton, so by that definition he's not in control. But he drove quickly enough to win the race and I felt that he could have done another stint just fine.
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Hamilton was ahead before the spin, if he had not spun or come in, it would have been interesting to see what happened. The race sim says he would have won.

I just do not understand how if you are controlling a race, you let your rival get into the DRS zone

I just do not understand how if you are controlling a race, you let your rival get into the DRS zone
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Basically the only thing i am contesting

Nico deserved to win
Nico had a great weekend
He got setup right
he got quali right
he was brilliant all weekend.

However HE DID NOT CONTROL the race

I understand what you are saying, but what i am saying is it depends on your definition of control.

i don't think Hamilton ever would have overtaken rosberg, despite the fact he was faster. I'd call that control myself.

I agree that the phrase “controlling the race” is open to interpretation.

The facts are that Lewis Hamilton could not pass Nico Rosberg in the final stint.

The only thing I would dispute is this nonsense about “locking up numerous times” but then the only person that made that ludicrous claim is non other than the forum daft bluffer.

He knows nothing about the sport and just embarrasses himself with his daft claims.

Wtcbu - would u allow a team matr to get in the drs rangr of you if u had the pace to prevent it

comment by M.U.D.D - Luke Shaw makes me throb with desire (U9612)
posted 14 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Trebs (U1014)
posted 5 hours, 20 minutes ago
I think the race could have gone on for another 20 laps and Rosberg would have still won. He wasn't driving as quickly as Hamilton, so by that definition he's not in control. But he drove quickly enough to win the race and I felt that he could have done another stint just fine.
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Hamilton was ahead before the spin, if he had not spun or come in, it would have been interesting to see what happened. The race sim says he would have won.

I just do not understand how if you are controlling a race, you let your rival get into the DRS zone
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you only have to see the in car footage from hamiltons car in the final stint to realise that rosberg had lewis covered -
---------- if it had not been the case lewis would have been in a position to try a passing maneuver but not once throut the race and especially in the last 20 laps was lewis ever in a position to do this --

that to my way of thinking is how to control a race --

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
I agree that the phrase “controlling the race” is open to interpretation.

The facts are that Lewis Hamilton could not pass Nico Rosberg in the final stint.

The only thing I would dispute is this nonsense about “locking up numerous times” but then the only person that made that ludicrous claim is non other than the forum daft bluffer.

He knows nothing about the sport and just embarrasses himself with his daft claims.
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what a surprise WTCBU launching another unprovoked attack of insults against another forum member because he is to scared to debate the topic with him

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 22 hours, 53 minutes ago
I agree that the phrase “controlling the race” is open to interpretation.

The facts are that Lewis Hamilton could not pass Nico Rosberg in the final stint.

The only thing I would dispute is this nonsense about “locking up numerous times” but then the only person that made that ludicrous claim is non other than the forum daft bluffer.

He knows nothing about the sport and just embarrasses himself with his daft claims.
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No

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 21 hours, 55 minutes ago
Wtcbu - would u allow a team matr to get in the drs rangr of you if u had the pace to prevent it
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No