It's a question of whether we can keep up our good home form against tougher opposition, but also about whether City keep up their away form against tougher opposition. Given that, I again think we're in the better position.
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Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
It just seems kind of negative to me.
IF We have Injuries
and IF City don't have injuries
and IF City can keep up their away form against tougher opposition
and IF We struggle at home where we've been very strong in the last season and a half.
Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
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If we lose to City, we still have a very good chance of winning the league. They have a lot of tough away games to go.
Of course that is all my opinion, and you're perfectly entitled to yours.
It is not negative, it is just looking at something from an analytical perspective and drawing conclusions from the findings.
If I take your argument and throw it back then I would say you are being just really positive to me assuming no injuries, assuming City will not keep up their away form and assuming we will not struggle at home agst harder opposition...
it has nothing to do with either, i have just analysed the situation and drawn some conclusions
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 3 minutes ago
Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
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If we lose to City, we still have a very good chance of winning the league. They have a lot of tough away games to go.
Of course that is all my opinion, and you're perfectly entitled to yours.
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But if we lose to City it starts to seriously weaken your basis as to why you think Chelsea will win the league.
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 3 minutes ago
Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
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If we lose to City, we still have a very good chance of winning the league. They have a lot of tough away games to go.
Of course that is all my opinion, and you're perfectly entitled to yours.
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But if we lose to City it starts to seriously weaken your basis as to why you think Chelsea will win the league.
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Why? We'll be one point behind them and they'll have tougher away games.
One of my concerns apart from not integrating Remy as well as we could have so far is why haven't we replaced Salah this window ??
Clearly Salah has no future in this Chelsea team and he is wanted by a host of clubs. So let's sell him and replace him with another AM that we actually will use and who can improve our squad options.
City will only be stronger now with the addition of Bony as well as Aguero coming back and yet we're doing nothing to strengthen this window despite lacking firepower in the squad.
It's advantage City as far as I can see and that's not being negative, it's just being realistic and analytical.
Because you stated on this thread that you are basing your belief on Chelsea winning the league by doing better than City agst tough opposition at home and on City doing worse than Chelsea agst tough opposition away from home.
Therefore if Chelsea lost at home to City it would be a double whammy effect on your basis for Chelsea winning the league.....they don't call these games 6 pointers for nothing.
If I take your argument and throw it back then I would say you are being just really positive to me assuming no injuries, assuming City will not keep up their away form and assuming we will not struggle at home agst harder opposition...
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I think it's fair to hope that we'll do well at home. We did well at home last season and we've done brilliantly this season.
City's away form is good because they have a lot of tough away games left. They lost to us and Liverpool away last season, drew at Arsenal, and struggled a bit early on. This season they've dropped points at Everton and QPR who are inferior to Man Utd and Tottenham, for example, who they still have to play away.
As for injuries, I'm just saying there's no reason to assume the best or worst. Anything could happen.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 47 seconds ago
One of my concerns apart from not integrating Remy as well as we could have so far is why haven't we replaced Salah this window ??
Clearly Salah has no future in this Chelsea team and he is wanted by a host of clubs. So let's sell him and replace him with another AM that we actually will use and who can improve our squad options.
City will only be stronger now with the addition of Bony as well as Aguero coming back and yet we're doing nothing to strengthen this window despite lacking firepower in the squad.
It's advantage City as far as I can see and that's not being negative, it's just being realistic and analytical.
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I agree, but if we win today and beat City at home the 5 point advantage might be enough to offset that advantage, which is why i wrote the article.
But who knows, maybe Arsenal will finally show up agst a top team
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
Because you stated on this thread that you are basing your belief on Chelsea winning the league by doing better than City agst tough opposition at home and on City doing worse than Chelsea agst tough opposition away from home.
Therefore if Chelsea lost at home to City it would be a double whammy effect on your basis for Chelsea winning the league.....they don't call these games 6 pointers for nothing.
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I'm sorry, our home form isn't going to shat if we lose one home game and City aren't going to win at Old Trafford, White Hart Lane, Anfield etc. if they win at Stamford Bridge. It's just one game. As long as the gap stays the same this weekend, we'll be one point behind them.
I said a defeat at home to city would seriously weaken your basis for believing Chelsea would win the league, I did not say it would destroy it.
If you think losing a 6 pointer at home to City will not seriously damage Chelsea chances of winning the title then that is surprising...
We'll be One point behind City.
We'll have easier away games and so a good chance to overtake them again.
Yeah, it will damage our hopes, but it will still be about 50 50 between us and City. City won't be overwhelming favourites like you seem to think.
On the contrary, if we win we WILL be overwhelming favourites.
If you think losing a 6 pointer at home to City will not seriously damage Chelsea chances of winning the title then that is surprising...
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You said "But we must beat City too because I honestly think we need a minimum 5 points lead after that game to have a chance of becoming champions."
Why is it us losing 'Seriously damages' our hopes, but us winning only 'gives us a chance'?
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 5 minutes ago
If you think losing a 6 pointer at home to City will not seriously damage Chelsea chances of winning the title then that is surprising...
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You said "But we must beat City too because I honestly think we need a minimum 5 points lead after that game to have a chance of becoming champions."
Why is it us losing 'Seriously damages' our hopes, but us winning only 'gives us a chance'?
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how many times do I have to repeat the fact that this is my analysis and that it maybe incorrect...........you think it is and that is absolutely fine.........i happen to disagree with you and that is absolutely fine too
Whatever way you want to look at points gained in upcoming matches the fact is that we're going to have to up our game if we're going to win the title.
The last time we won the title in 2010 we seriously upped our game in the second half of the season and we're going to need to do that again.
If not City are just going to power their way to the title without even needing to be that impressive. Just like they did last season.
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posted on 17/1/15
It's a question of whether we can keep up our good home form against tougher opposition, but also about whether City keep up their away form against tougher opposition. Given that, I again think we're in the better position.
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Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
posted on 17/1/15
It just seems kind of negative to me.
IF We have Injuries
and IF City don't have injuries
and IF City can keep up their away form against tougher opposition
and IF We struggle at home where we've been very strong in the last season and a half.
posted on 17/1/15
Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
---------------
If we lose to City, we still have a very good chance of winning the league. They have a lot of tough away games to go.
Of course that is all my opinion, and you're perfectly entitled to yours.
posted on 17/1/15
It is not negative, it is just looking at something from an analytical perspective and drawing conclusions from the findings.
If I take your argument and throw it back then I would say you are being just really positive to me assuming no injuries, assuming City will not keep up their away form and assuming we will not struggle at home agst harder opposition...
it has nothing to do with either, i have just analysed the situation and drawn some conclusions
posted on 17/1/15
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 3 minutes ago
Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
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If we lose to City, we still have a very good chance of winning the league. They have a lot of tough away games to go.
Of course that is all my opinion, and you're perfectly entitled to yours.
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But if we lose to City it starts to seriously weaken your basis as to why you think Chelsea will win the league.
posted on 17/1/15
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 3 minutes ago
Which seems to support my view that we need to beat City. at home
---------------
If we lose to City, we still have a very good chance of winning the league. They have a lot of tough away games to go.
Of course that is all my opinion, and you're perfectly entitled to yours.
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But if we lose to City it starts to seriously weaken your basis as to why you think Chelsea will win the league.
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Why? We'll be one point behind them and they'll have tougher away games.
posted on 17/1/15
One of my concerns apart from not integrating Remy as well as we could have so far is why haven't we replaced Salah this window ??
Clearly Salah has no future in this Chelsea team and he is wanted by a host of clubs. So let's sell him and replace him with another AM that we actually will use and who can improve our squad options.
City will only be stronger now with the addition of Bony as well as Aguero coming back and yet we're doing nothing to strengthen this window despite lacking firepower in the squad.
It's advantage City as far as I can see and that's not being negative, it's just being realistic and analytical.
posted on 17/1/15
Because you stated on this thread that you are basing your belief on Chelsea winning the league by doing better than City agst tough opposition at home and on City doing worse than Chelsea agst tough opposition away from home.
Therefore if Chelsea lost at home to City it would be a double whammy effect on your basis for Chelsea winning the league.....they don't call these games 6 pointers for nothing.
posted on 17/1/15
If I take your argument and throw it back then I would say you are being just really positive to me assuming no injuries, assuming City will not keep up their away form and assuming we will not struggle at home agst harder opposition...
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I think it's fair to hope that we'll do well at home. We did well at home last season and we've done brilliantly this season.
City's away form is good because they have a lot of tough away games left. They lost to us and Liverpool away last season, drew at Arsenal, and struggled a bit early on. This season they've dropped points at Everton and QPR who are inferior to Man Utd and Tottenham, for example, who they still have to play away.
As for injuries, I'm just saying there's no reason to assume the best or worst. Anything could happen.
posted on 17/1/15
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 47 seconds ago
One of my concerns apart from not integrating Remy as well as we could have so far is why haven't we replaced Salah this window ??
Clearly Salah has no future in this Chelsea team and he is wanted by a host of clubs. So let's sell him and replace him with another AM that we actually will use and who can improve our squad options.
City will only be stronger now with the addition of Bony as well as Aguero coming back and yet we're doing nothing to strengthen this window despite lacking firepower in the squad.
It's advantage City as far as I can see and that's not being negative, it's just being realistic and analytical.
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I agree, but if we win today and beat City at home the 5 point advantage might be enough to offset that advantage, which is why i wrote the article.
But who knows, maybe Arsenal will finally show up agst a top team
posted on 17/1/15
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
Because you stated on this thread that you are basing your belief on Chelsea winning the league by doing better than City agst tough opposition at home and on City doing worse than Chelsea agst tough opposition away from home.
Therefore if Chelsea lost at home to City it would be a double whammy effect on your basis for Chelsea winning the league.....they don't call these games 6 pointers for nothing.
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I'm sorry, our home form isn't going to shat if we lose one home game and City aren't going to win at Old Trafford, White Hart Lane, Anfield etc. if they win at Stamford Bridge. It's just one game. As long as the gap stays the same this weekend, we'll be one point behind them.
posted on 17/1/15
I said a defeat at home to city would seriously weaken your basis for believing Chelsea would win the league, I did not say it would destroy it.
If you think losing a 6 pointer at home to City will not seriously damage Chelsea chances of winning the title then that is surprising...
posted on 17/1/15
We'll be One point behind City.
We'll have easier away games and so a good chance to overtake them again.
Yeah, it will damage our hopes, but it will still be about 50 50 between us and City. City won't be overwhelming favourites like you seem to think.
On the contrary, if we win we WILL be overwhelming favourites.
posted on 17/1/15
If you think losing a 6 pointer at home to City will not seriously damage Chelsea chances of winning the title then that is surprising...
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You said "But we must beat City too because I honestly think we need a minimum 5 points lead after that game to have a chance of becoming champions."
Why is it us losing 'Seriously damages' our hopes, but us winning only 'gives us a chance'?
posted on 17/1/15
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 5 minutes ago
If you think losing a 6 pointer at home to City will not seriously damage Chelsea chances of winning the title then that is surprising...
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You said "But we must beat City too because I honestly think we need a minimum 5 points lead after that game to have a chance of becoming champions."
Why is it us losing 'Seriously damages' our hopes, but us winning only 'gives us a chance'?
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how many times do I have to repeat the fact that this is my analysis and that it maybe incorrect...........you think it is and that is absolutely fine.........i happen to disagree with you and that is absolutely fine too
posted on 17/1/15
Whatever way you want to look at points gained in upcoming matches the fact is that we're going to have to up our game if we're going to win the title.
The last time we won the title in 2010 we seriously upped our game in the second half of the season and we're going to need to do that again.
If not City are just going to power their way to the title without even needing to be that impressive. Just like they did last season.
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