Coutinho there are thousands of Evans supporting comments dont bother if these guys are in denial.
I often see United fans trolling other boards and even RAWK to find funny comments to make articles forgetting about the melee that is places like Red Cafe and them having some of the most deluded posters on the site. Some of them think their fan base is better than others obviously.
Some of them think their fan base is better than others obviously.
.........................................
This is quite a funny comment coming from the guy who wrote these words just over 15 minutes ago
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At least Liverpool fans are classier.
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I think what we have here is a classic case of someone who see's their reflection in others
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
Mamba, nothing is stopping you from creating a Red Cafe meltdown account on twitter and posting the comments.
We share those comments not because we think we are better than anyone but because we want our friends to have a laugh.
The overwhelming majority of us said what he did was wrong and should be punished.
I appreciate your spirited arguments talking about the fans who try to defend the indefensible. Alas, I note it is not genuine.
I stumbled across this spirited defence of the indefensible. You even posted images in a bid to defend the indefensible when there was video evidence.
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/153473
Oh what a tangled web we weave. There is a name for people who slate others but do the things they slate others for, name escapes me now................
In all its glory before it gets edited
"Suarez/ Evra.... The handshake
by Mamba - Break it down... Ohohohohohohohoh... Now Stop! Mamba time (U1282) (U13041) 17 September 2012
COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE
Following on from the article some way below, I've managed to read a few articles that really got me thinking. Why was Suarez blamed for the shake when there was a clear cut prima facie case that the whole hand shake saga was engineered by Evra?
I mean look at the photo on the right of this page!!!!!!
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/02/video-evra-refuses-suarez-handshake/
If I can get a good explanation why that photo appears the way it does (with Suarez's hand out for the shake while Evra's is withdrawn) and how comes it is still believed it was Suarez who snubbed Evra, I'll be glad to hear and accept it but as it stands now am just perplexed at this mass delusion where people follow what the media tells them. That photo shows clearly who snubbed who. How can anyone miss it?!?!? Also Evra is looking straight at Suarez's face while Suarez is looking around the hands where the hand shake should have taken place.
Go ahead now to look at the video. Try pausing at 0.15. Not very visible but OMG its so clear to me that it was not Suarez who caused the lack of a handshake!!! WTF???
Well, in the process I noted that not everyone missed it.
http://scouse.forum-gratuiti.com/t6268-evra-refused-to-shake-suarez-hand
http://www.koptalk.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=189927
I am amazed that such a clear thing can go unnoticed especially by main stream media who crucified Suarez what with us having all the modern technology like cameras that take photos of the mole on your face all the way from outer space!! Also, I can't understand, in the circumstances why Evra would react the way he did following the 'snub' unless its to make it look real.
Why would Suarez later on say this anyway?
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/07/18/Luis_Suarez_reignites_Patrice_Evra_handshake_row/
Maybe Evra was under pressure himself and doubted Suarez would shake his hand and therefore didn't present it fully?
http://flair.wittysparks.com/article/0fd40Om3HI2Fj/evra-admits-he-was-under-pressure-over-suarez-handshake
I don't know what happened. What i know is that its not so clear cut that Suarez was the guilty party in this one. I also think the subsequent apology by Suarez was more for PR and brand/image protecting than a true apology. He made no direct apology to Evra anyway!
I've seen arguments that both were at fault which could also be the case really.
And to top it off, most convincing to me is this.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9130778/Liverpool-reignite-Luis-Suarez-row-as-Glen-Johnson-accuses-Patrice-Evra-of-manufacturing-handshake.html
Glen is black himself and if he doesn't believe a word Evra says i don't see why I should! I think on a balance of probabilities, at least on the hand shake thing Suarez was probably innocent after reading what Glen had to say.
After that Fergie came out saying Liverpool should get rid of Suarez. Hmmmmm......
I've noticed its the trend to laugh at such articles now a days (same as when you bring up Manchester United and the dodgy referee decisions) and calling the OP deluded when it happens but I like to dig up things from the past and bust myths so am sorry if anyone feels that this is exhausting. You can kindly avoid the thread. Am trying to be as unbiased as i can. Hopefully someone can tell me if it is the angle of the cameras that deceives the eye or does anyone agree with me?"
Using unbiased scouse links as well to defend a Liverpool player.
What a guy! What a guy!
Its all in the context MUDD.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
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You serious?
That was one of many, read through the links if you don't believe me.
Edit what? I stand by my comments. What a waste of cc brain cell. How far back is that? Where do you get motivation? How old are you? What does that have to do with this? Oh my days.
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
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You serious?
That was one of many, read through the links if you don't believe me.
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Did Evans spit on the floor?
comment by Mamba - Break it down... Ohohohohohohohoh... Now Stop! Mamba time (U1282) (U13041)
posted 1 minute ago
Edit what? I stand by my comments. What a waste of cc brain cell. How far back is that? Where do you get motivation? How old are you? What does that have to do with this? Oh my days.
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It shows that your condemnation of people for "defending" the indefensible is not genuine.
No need to get your panties in a bunch. What's that term again for people who label others names but then do what those people do again
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
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You serious?
That was one of many, read through the links if you don't believe me.
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Did Evans spit on the floor?
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So you don't think he spat at Ciise?
That is not what I asked you. Please answer my question.
I agree 100% with his ban. I just want to understand your "defence of Evans claim."
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
That is not what I asked you. Please answer my question.
I agree 100% with his ban. I just want to understand your "defence of Evans claim."
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Ah right, you're focussing on one comment of many. That's convenient. If you want to be pedantic yes he spat on the floor.
Take it you're ignoring the other comments then?
I suppose these weren't defending him?
""Will Evans serve a ban, yes or no?
by Reddevils double (U12215) 6 March 2015
COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE
I say no."
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Without doubt, he will be charged.
Like Elvis though I don't feel he spat at cisse, if he wanted to he would have.
Yes but he didn't spit at Cisses did he? He spat on the floor/his feet. And there was no real force in the spitting action either. It was a casual spit on the floor - the type that players do hundreds of times throughout the game.
"I could be wrong, but I don't believe it was an attempt to spit on Cisse.""
There's more I could dig out. Shouldn't really be necessary, should it?
There can be no defence of what Evans did. What Mex said was he spat on the floor. He was not defending him but pointing out what he did.
The vast majority of Utd fans expected a ban and did not defend him at all. I only recall one or two people trying to make excuses for it.
Now, if we were to look at the Liverpool board during the Suarez saga, what do you think we would find percentage wise (those defending him)?
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 12 minutes ago
Oh dear Mamba
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I was shocked mate, such a defender of truth, justice and the american way.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
There can be no defence of what Evans did. What Mex said was he spat on the floor. He was not defending him but pointing out what he did.
The vast majority of Utd fans expected a ban and did not defend him at all. I only recall one or two people trying to make excuses for it.
Now, if we were to look at the Liverpool board during the Suarez saga, what do you think we would find percentage wise (those defending him)?
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One or two, you sure?
Yes, I am sure. This is the key thing I want you to understand.
People saying he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact. Not necessarily a defence of his actions
MUDD
The big distinction between Suarez and Evans is the Evans incident is conclusive, there's clear video evidence if what he did.
The Suarez/Evra incident there was plenty of ambiguity in the evidence, the version of events on both sides, and the way it was assessed by The FA.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, I am sure. This is the key thing I want you to understand.
People saying he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact. Not necessarily a defence of his actions
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Still ignoring the other comments, and links I posted. Good stuff.
What is conclusive about the Evans incident? Did he spit on Cisse or did he spit on the floor?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What is conclusive about the Evans incident? Did he spit on Cisse or did he spit on the floor?
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He spat at Ciise. It's there in Technicolor video. You don't spit a) that close to people and b) in their direction.
This is gold.
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posted on 25/3/15
Coutinho there are thousands of Evans supporting comments dont bother if these guys are in denial.
I often see United fans trolling other boards and even RAWK to find funny comments to make articles forgetting about the melee that is places like Red Cafe and them having some of the most deluded posters on the site. Some of them think their fan base is better than others obviously.
posted on 25/3/15
Some of them think their fan base is better than others obviously.
.........................................
This is quite a funny comment coming from the guy who wrote these words just over 15 minutes ago
__________________________
At least Liverpool fans are classier.
__________________________
I think what we have here is a classic case of someone who see's their reflection in others
posted on 25/3/15
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
posted on 25/3/15
Mamba, nothing is stopping you from creating a Red Cafe meltdown account on twitter and posting the comments.
We share those comments not because we think we are better than anyone but because we want our friends to have a laugh.
The overwhelming majority of us said what he did was wrong and should be punished.
I appreciate your spirited arguments talking about the fans who try to defend the indefensible. Alas, I note it is not genuine.
I stumbled across this spirited defence of the indefensible. You even posted images in a bid to defend the indefensible when there was video evidence.
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/153473
Oh what a tangled web we weave. There is a name for people who slate others but do the things they slate others for, name escapes me now................
posted on 25/3/15
In all its glory before it gets edited
"Suarez/ Evra.... The handshake
by Mamba - Break it down... Ohohohohohohohoh... Now Stop! Mamba time (U1282) (U13041) 17 September 2012
COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE
Following on from the article some way below, I've managed to read a few articles that really got me thinking. Why was Suarez blamed for the shake when there was a clear cut prima facie case that the whole hand shake saga was engineered by Evra?
I mean look at the photo on the right of this page!!!!!!
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/02/video-evra-refuses-suarez-handshake/
If I can get a good explanation why that photo appears the way it does (with Suarez's hand out for the shake while Evra's is withdrawn) and how comes it is still believed it was Suarez who snubbed Evra, I'll be glad to hear and accept it but as it stands now am just perplexed at this mass delusion where people follow what the media tells them. That photo shows clearly who snubbed who. How can anyone miss it?!?!? Also Evra is looking straight at Suarez's face while Suarez is looking around the hands where the hand shake should have taken place.
Go ahead now to look at the video. Try pausing at 0.15. Not very visible but OMG its so clear to me that it was not Suarez who caused the lack of a handshake!!! WTF???
Well, in the process I noted that not everyone missed it.
http://scouse.forum-gratuiti.com/t6268-evra-refused-to-shake-suarez-hand
http://www.koptalk.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=189927
I am amazed that such a clear thing can go unnoticed especially by main stream media who crucified Suarez what with us having all the modern technology like cameras that take photos of the mole on your face all the way from outer space!! Also, I can't understand, in the circumstances why Evra would react the way he did following the 'snub' unless its to make it look real.
Why would Suarez later on say this anyway?
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/07/18/Luis_Suarez_reignites_Patrice_Evra_handshake_row/
Maybe Evra was under pressure himself and doubted Suarez would shake his hand and therefore didn't present it fully?
http://flair.wittysparks.com/article/0fd40Om3HI2Fj/evra-admits-he-was-under-pressure-over-suarez-handshake
I don't know what happened. What i know is that its not so clear cut that Suarez was the guilty party in this one. I also think the subsequent apology by Suarez was more for PR and brand/image protecting than a true apology. He made no direct apology to Evra anyway!
I've seen arguments that both were at fault which could also be the case really.
And to top it off, most convincing to me is this.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9130778/Liverpool-reignite-Luis-Suarez-row-as-Glen-Johnson-accuses-Patrice-Evra-of-manufacturing-handshake.html
Glen is black himself and if he doesn't believe a word Evra says i don't see why I should! I think on a balance of probabilities, at least on the hand shake thing Suarez was probably innocent after reading what Glen had to say.
After that Fergie came out saying Liverpool should get rid of Suarez. Hmmmmm......
I've noticed its the trend to laugh at such articles now a days (same as when you bring up Manchester United and the dodgy referee decisions) and calling the OP deluded when it happens but I like to dig up things from the past and bust myths so am sorry if anyone feels that this is exhausting. You can kindly avoid the thread. Am trying to be as unbiased as i can. Hopefully someone can tell me if it is the angle of the cameras that deceives the eye or does anyone agree with me?"
posted on 25/3/15
Using unbiased scouse links as well to defend a Liverpool player.
What a guy! What a guy!
posted on 25/3/15
Its all in the context MUDD.
posted on 25/3/15
Indeed
posted on 25/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You serious?
That was one of many, read through the links if you don't believe me.
posted on 25/3/15
Edit what? I stand by my comments. What a waste of cc brain cell. How far back is that? Where do you get motivation? How old are you? What does that have to do with this? Oh my days.
posted on 25/3/15
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You serious?
That was one of many, read through the links if you don't believe me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did Evans spit on the floor?
posted on 25/3/15
comment by Mamba - Break it down... Ohohohohohohohoh... Now Stop! Mamba time (U1282) (U13041)
posted 1 minute ago
Edit what? I stand by my comments. What a waste of cc brain cell. How far back is that? Where do you get motivation? How old are you? What does that have to do with this? Oh my days.
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It shows that your condemnation of people for "defending" the indefensible is not genuine.
No need to get your panties in a bunch. What's that term again for people who label others names but then do what those people do again
posted on 25/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago
How is the comment saying he spit on the floor a "defence" for Evans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You serious?
That was one of many, read through the links if you don't believe me.
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Did Evans spit on the floor?
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So you don't think he spat at Ciise?
posted on 25/3/15
That is not what I asked you. Please answer my question.
I agree 100% with his ban. I just want to understand your "defence of Evans claim."
posted on 25/3/15
Oh dear Mamba
posted on 25/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
That is not what I asked you. Please answer my question.
I agree 100% with his ban. I just want to understand your "defence of Evans claim."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah right, you're focussing on one comment of many. That's convenient. If you want to be pedantic yes he spat on the floor.
Take it you're ignoring the other comments then?
posted on 25/3/15
I suppose these weren't defending him?
""Will Evans serve a ban, yes or no?
by Reddevils double (U12215) 6 March 2015
COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE
I say no."
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Without doubt, he will be charged.
Like Elvis though I don't feel he spat at cisse, if he wanted to he would have.
Yes but he didn't spit at Cisses did he? He spat on the floor/his feet. And there was no real force in the spitting action either. It was a casual spit on the floor - the type that players do hundreds of times throughout the game.
"I could be wrong, but I don't believe it was an attempt to spit on Cisse.""
There's more I could dig out. Shouldn't really be necessary, should it?
posted on 25/3/15
There can be no defence of what Evans did. What Mex said was he spat on the floor. He was not defending him but pointing out what he did.
The vast majority of Utd fans expected a ban and did not defend him at all. I only recall one or two people trying to make excuses for it.
Now, if we were to look at the Liverpool board during the Suarez saga, what do you think we would find percentage wise (those defending him)?
posted on 25/3/15
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 12 minutes ago
Oh dear Mamba
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I was shocked mate, such a defender of truth, justice and the american way.
posted on 25/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
There can be no defence of what Evans did. What Mex said was he spat on the floor. He was not defending him but pointing out what he did.
The vast majority of Utd fans expected a ban and did not defend him at all. I only recall one or two people trying to make excuses for it.
Now, if we were to look at the Liverpool board during the Suarez saga, what do you think we would find percentage wise (those defending him)?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One or two, you sure?
posted on 25/3/15
Yes, I am sure. This is the key thing I want you to understand.
People saying he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact. Not necessarily a defence of his actions
posted on 25/3/15
MUDD
The big distinction between Suarez and Evans is the Evans incident is conclusive, there's clear video evidence if what he did.
The Suarez/Evra incident there was plenty of ambiguity in the evidence, the version of events on both sides, and the way it was assessed by The FA.
posted on 25/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, I am sure. This is the key thing I want you to understand.
People saying he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact. Not necessarily a defence of his actions
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still ignoring the other comments, and links I posted. Good stuff.
posted on 25/3/15
What is conclusive about the Evans incident? Did he spit on Cisse or did he spit on the floor?
posted on 25/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What is conclusive about the Evans incident? Did he spit on Cisse or did he spit on the floor?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He spat at Ciise. It's there in Technicolor video. You don't spit a) that close to people and b) in their direction.
This is gold.
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