In an article titled 'Does Evabs deserve a ban'
The following answered no citing these reasons;
"You're still not getting this. He can't remember the incident because footballers spit all the time."
"They cannot prove he intended to. If the club appeal they should win".
"The more I watch it the more I think this is all over nothing.
Players often spit at a break in play."
They think he doesn't deserve a ban because they think he didn't spit AT Cisse.
As clear and simple as I could put it.
Of course if you use them statements in isolation, removing the question in the title of the article, of course it looks like people stating facts.
After denying defence of Evans, we then get an actual defence of him. You couldn't make it up.
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
Mamba the only thing your being wummed on is your poor understanding of English...
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Coming from the lad who can't distinguish between on and at
Clearly SAF is saying Evans did not spit at Cisse on this very thread. Unbelievable.
The rule Evans was charged under outlines punishment for spitting at a player. Evans was charged with spitting at the player.
What does whether the spit landed on the player have to do with it? Squirming Mancs.
comment by Mamba - Break it down... Ohohohohohohohoh... Now Stop! Mamba time (U1282) (U13041)
posted 45 seconds ago
The rule Evans was charged under outlines punishment for spitting at a player. Evans was charged with spitting at the player.
What does whether the spit landed on the player have to do with it? Squirming Mancs.
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Exactly. But saying he does deserve a ban, according to United's fans logic, isn't defending him apparently.
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 33 seconds ago
Again we are back at the same point that has been explained, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Stating Evans spat on the floor is not a defence of what happened.
He spat on the floor.
Did he not spit on the floor?
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No, he spat AT Ciise. Doesn't matter if he spat on the floor. That's being used to defend him, and say he didn't spit AT Ciise.
Jesus wept.
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So he did not spit on the floor?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 33 seconds ago
Again we are back at the same point that has been explained, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Stating Evans spat on the floor is not a defence of what happened.
He spat on the floor.
Did he not spit on the floor?
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No, he spat AT Ciise. Doesn't matter if he spat on the floor. That's being used to defend him, and say he didn't spit AT Ciise.
Jesus wept.
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So he did not spit on the floor?
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I've never said he didn't
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
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He spat AT Ciise.
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
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He spat AT Ciise.
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So, someone saying he spat on the floor is not lying, right?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
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He spat AT Ciise.
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So, someone saying he spat on the floor is not lying, right?
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I never said they were lying
I actually don't think someone can be this dense unintentionally.
So, the people that say he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact, right?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So, the people that say he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact, right?
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You really are struggling with this. Ok here's what happened.
Evans was accused of spitting AT Ciise. The response from some United fans was that he didn't, that he in fact spat on the floor.
Are they stating a fact, or refuting the accusation that Evans spat at Ciise?
Hopefully even you can answer this.
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 38 seconds ago
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
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"What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people".
No, we've been discussing United fans defending Evans spitting AT Ciise.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
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Mudd I am starting to think this is a pointless exercise, we've explained it clearly multiple times now...
Either they don't have enough of an understanding of English or more likely they are being intentionally stupid on the matter....
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
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Mudd I am starting to think this is a pointless exercise, we've explained it clearly multiple times now...
Either they don't have enough of an understanding of English or more likely they are being intentionally stupid on the matter....
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This has to be the most ironic comment yet.
Have you looked up the difference between the words on and at yet?
Right simple questions, try to answer without getting confused.
Did Evans spit at Ciise?
Did some United fans deny this by claiming he spat on the pitch?
Did some United fans say he didn't deserve a ban?
Seriously lads, answer these honestly for me, without using the words 'he spat on the pitch'. Yes or no answers will do.
So, you refuse to answer our questions but then ask us questions.
Cheeky
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 31 seconds ago
So, you refuse to answer our questions but then ask us questions.
Cheeky
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What have I refused to answer?
Go on, give the 3 questions I asked a go.
I asked you a question above, you swerved.
Answer it ^^^^
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 19 seconds ago
I asked you a question above, you swerved.
Answer it ^^^^
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What this?
"So, the people that say he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact, right?"
I answered that in my reply. You also asked the same question about 6 pages ago and I answered it again. But I'll humour you. Hopefully it'll illicit an answer to my questions.
No they're not making a statement of fact. They're answering a question regarding the allegation that Evans spat at Ciise. They're using 'he spat on the floor' as a defence of the allegation.
There you go, again. You're turn, answer my questions. Yes or no will do.
No you did not answer
You swerved
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
omment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
Can't believe this is still going!
MUDD
for the sake of clarity read this bit carefully.
Neither me or Mamba have said United fans defended Evans for spitting on Ciise.
We are saying United's fans defended Evans for spitting at Ciise. There were plenty of comments saying he wasn't spitting at Ciise, he was spitting on the pitch, can you honestly say that if he was compelled to spit he couldn't have done it away, or not in Ciise's direction?.
There were also plenty of fans saying he shouldn't get a ban. Why shouldn't he have been banned? (In the eyes of these fans). It's because they believe he didn't do anything wrong.
This isn't difficult. It's being made difficult by yourself, and others, fixating on the words 'spat on'.
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My personal opinion is that he spat at Cisse's feet as a show of disrespect. I don't believe that he tried to spit on Cisse. Ergo, he spat in Cisse's direction not AT him. Very easy to understand.
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So spitting in someone's direction, particularly someone you're standing over, is not spitting at someone? Of course it is.
So, one one hand we have fans, like yourself, that don't think Evans spat at Ciise, but accept the ban (which is a contradiction considering he was charge with spitting at another player)
Then you have other fans who don't think he deserves a ban.
But you're not defending him. Seriously lads, this is getting daft now.
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I am not defending him - I actually wanted him to get banned as I don't rate. But intentionally spitting at someone's feet is not the same as spitting at them. You are instead spitting in their direction. The laws of the game state that you cannot spit AT an opponent and I don't believe that Evans did spit at Cisse.
But as I said at the time, I don't really think that spitting at an opponents feet is a particularly good example for kids watching the game, so am fine with the ban.
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
Elvis here thinks Evans didn't mean to spit at Ciise.
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
Evans will certainly be banned for at least six games.
The “defence” that he is somehow is unable to control his bodily functions has not done him any favours either.
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Who has claimed that he can't control his bodily functions?
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His manager.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31756582
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>>>Are you a bit dense? He said that Evans didn't mean to spit at Cisse. What has that got to do with not being able to control your bodily functions".<<< THIS BIT.
I suppose you think Elvis isn't defending him?
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I didn't defend Evans, just voiced my opinion that he wasn't trying to spit on Cisse. I did however point out that even spitting at an opponents feet isn't a great example. You really need to read fully what people post.
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posted on 26/3/15
In an article titled 'Does Evabs deserve a ban'
The following answered no citing these reasons;
"You're still not getting this. He can't remember the incident because footballers spit all the time."
"They cannot prove he intended to. If the club appeal they should win".
"The more I watch it the more I think this is all over nothing.
Players often spit at a break in play."
They think he doesn't deserve a ban because they think he didn't spit AT Cisse.
As clear and simple as I could put it.
Of course if you use them statements in isolation, removing the question in the title of the article, of course it looks like people stating facts.
posted on 26/3/15
After denying defence of Evans, we then get an actual defence of him. You couldn't make it up.
posted on 26/3/15
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
Mamba the only thing your being wummed on is your poor understanding of English...
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Coming from the lad who can't distinguish between on and at
posted on 26/3/15
Clearly SAF is saying Evans did not spit at Cisse on this very thread. Unbelievable.
posted on 26/3/15
The rule Evans was charged under outlines punishment for spitting at a player. Evans was charged with spitting at the player.
What does whether the spit landed on the player have to do with it? Squirming Mancs.
posted on 26/3/15
comment by Mamba - Break it down... Ohohohohohohohoh... Now Stop! Mamba time (U1282) (U13041)
posted 45 seconds ago
The rule Evans was charged under outlines punishment for spitting at a player. Evans was charged with spitting at the player.
What does whether the spit landed on the player have to do with it? Squirming Mancs.
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Exactly. But saying he does deserve a ban, according to United's fans logic, isn't defending him apparently.
posted on 26/3/15
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 33 seconds ago
Again we are back at the same point that has been explained, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Stating Evans spat on the floor is not a defence of what happened.
He spat on the floor.
Did he not spit on the floor?
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No, he spat AT Ciise. Doesn't matter if he spat on the floor. That's being used to defend him, and say he didn't spit AT Ciise.
Jesus wept.
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So he did not spit on the floor?
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 33 seconds ago
Again we are back at the same point that has been explained, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Stating Evans spat on the floor is not a defence of what happened.
He spat on the floor.
Did he not spit on the floor?
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No, he spat AT Ciise. Doesn't matter if he spat on the floor. That's being used to defend him, and say he didn't spit AT Ciise.
Jesus wept.
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So he did not spit on the floor?
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I've never said he didn't
posted on 26/3/15
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
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He spat AT Ciise.
posted on 26/3/15
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
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He spat AT Ciise.
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So, someone saying he spat on the floor is not lying, right?
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So what did he do? Spit on the floor or spit on Cisse?
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He spat AT Ciise.
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So, someone saying he spat on the floor is not lying, right?
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I never said they were lying
I actually don't think someone can be this dense unintentionally.
posted on 26/3/15
So, the people that say he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact, right?
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
So, the people that say he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact, right?
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You really are struggling with this. Ok here's what happened.
Evans was accused of spitting AT Ciise. The response from some United fans was that he didn't, that he in fact spat on the floor.
Are they stating a fact, or refuting the accusation that Evans spat at Ciise?
Hopefully even you can answer this.
posted on 26/3/15
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 38 seconds ago
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
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"What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people".
No, we've been discussing United fans defending Evans spitting AT Ciise.
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
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Mudd I am starting to think this is a pointless exercise, we've explained it clearly multiple times now...
Either they don't have enough of an understanding of English or more likely they are being intentionally stupid on the matter....
posted on 26/3/15
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
What we have been speaking about my good man is people spitting "on" people.
My comments have simply said Evans spitting on the ground is a statement of fact, not a defence.
Somehow you cannot comprehend this and I have explained it multiple times.
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Mudd I am starting to think this is a pointless exercise, we've explained it clearly multiple times now...
Either they don't have enough of an understanding of English or more likely they are being intentionally stupid on the matter....
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This has to be the most ironic comment yet.
Have you looked up the difference between the words on and at yet?
Right simple questions, try to answer without getting confused.
Did Evans spit at Ciise?
Did some United fans deny this by claiming he spat on the pitch?
Did some United fans say he didn't deserve a ban?
Seriously lads, answer these honestly for me, without using the words 'he spat on the pitch'. Yes or no answers will do.
posted on 26/3/15
So, you refuse to answer our questions but then ask us questions.
Cheeky
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 31 seconds ago
So, you refuse to answer our questions but then ask us questions.
Cheeky
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What have I refused to answer?
Go on, give the 3 questions I asked a go.
posted on 26/3/15
I asked you a question above, you swerved.
Answer it ^^^^
posted on 26/3/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 19 seconds ago
I asked you a question above, you swerved.
Answer it ^^^^
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What this?
"So, the people that say he spat on the floor are making a statement of fact, right?"
I answered that in my reply. You also asked the same question about 6 pages ago and I answered it again. But I'll humour you. Hopefully it'll illicit an answer to my questions.
No they're not making a statement of fact. They're answering a question regarding the allegation that Evans spat at Ciise. They're using 'he spat on the floor' as a defence of the allegation.
There you go, again. You're turn, answer my questions. Yes or no will do.
posted on 26/3/15
No you did not answer
You swerved
posted on 26/3/15
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
omment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
Can't believe this is still going!
MUDD
for the sake of clarity read this bit carefully.
Neither me or Mamba have said United fans defended Evans for spitting on Ciise.
We are saying United's fans defended Evans for spitting at Ciise. There were plenty of comments saying he wasn't spitting at Ciise, he was spitting on the pitch, can you honestly say that if he was compelled to spit he couldn't have done it away, or not in Ciise's direction?.
There were also plenty of fans saying he shouldn't get a ban. Why shouldn't he have been banned? (In the eyes of these fans). It's because they believe he didn't do anything wrong.
This isn't difficult. It's being made difficult by yourself, and others, fixating on the words 'spat on'.
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My personal opinion is that he spat at Cisse's feet as a show of disrespect. I don't believe that he tried to spit on Cisse. Ergo, he spat in Cisse's direction not AT him. Very easy to understand.
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So spitting in someone's direction, particularly someone you're standing over, is not spitting at someone? Of course it is.
So, one one hand we have fans, like yourself, that don't think Evans spat at Ciise, but accept the ban (which is a contradiction considering he was charge with spitting at another player)
Then you have other fans who don't think he deserves a ban.
But you're not defending him. Seriously lads, this is getting daft now.
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I am not defending him - I actually wanted him to get banned as I don't rate. But intentionally spitting at someone's feet is not the same as spitting at them. You are instead spitting in their direction. The laws of the game state that you cannot spit AT an opponent and I don't believe that Evans did spit at Cisse.
But as I said at the time, I don't really think that spitting at an opponents feet is a particularly good example for kids watching the game, so am fine with the ban.
posted on 26/3/15
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
Elvis here thinks Evans didn't mean to spit at Ciise.
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
Evans will certainly be banned for at least six games.
The “defence” that he is somehow is unable to control his bodily functions has not done him any favours either.
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Who has claimed that he can't control his bodily functions?
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His manager.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31756582
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>>>Are you a bit dense? He said that Evans didn't mean to spit at Cisse. What has that got to do with not being able to control your bodily functions".<<< THIS BIT.
I suppose you think Elvis isn't defending him?
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I didn't defend Evans, just voiced my opinion that he wasn't trying to spit on Cisse. I did however point out that even spitting at an opponents feet isn't a great example. You really need to read fully what people post.
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