comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
Also the whole Palpatine thing was not that far-fetched

The Empire was initially defeated because the emperor was killed, not because they lost all their ships and technology. Most of that survived. Palpatine was the most powerful force user who was willing to tap into the "unnatural" dark side of the force so it's not that far-fetched to think he could have cheated death (as has happened with Sith before), regrouped what was left of the Empire, rebuild for 35 years improving and building on the tech and ships the empire already had, and laid the groundwork for his eventual successor, his granddaughter
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I have no issue with the Empire surviving but we saw the emperor fall into the shaft and what followed was an explosion of energy. Luke managed to get off the death star but are you telling me Palpatine managed to not only survive the fall but he also was able to flee the exploding death star? When Luke celebrates with his friends at the end of ROTJ, we see Obi Wan, Yoda and Anakin appear as force ghosts, smiling, because balance was restored and the emperor was dead. If the emperor was still alive, I'm fairly sure those 3 force ghosts wouldn't be smiling and watching the celebrations. Now, let's say the emperor did some how survive, how did he go for so long without Luke sensing him, why did he wait until episode 9 to reveal himself, at what point did he find a woman to impregnate, why did he use Snoke to tell Kylo to look for Luke when he should have just captured Rey in FA and manipulated her before she went to Luke? Too many plot holes and inconsistencies for him to be back.

Palpatines story ended when Luke uttered those iconic lines in ROTJ: "I'm a jedi, like my father before me" and proceeded to suffer the emperors wrath before Anakin brought balance to the force when he threw Palpatine into the pit. Bringing Palpatine back completely dismantles everything the previous 2 trilogies built. It's lazy writing and story telling and I think it's quite evident that the Emperor was never part of the plan and was simply fast tracked in as a hail mary.
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While I don't disagree with what you're saying I blame most of this on TLJ. Star Wars was broken after TLJ, JJ had to really stretch the boundaries just to make any kind of conclusion to the saga at all

I mean who were we left with after TLJ? Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo and Leia (who obviously couldn't become a major character due to Carrie's passing).

My view is that Rian is a selfish prlk with no respect for the legacy of Star Wars and saw his film as a vanity project without a care for what came before, during or after. JJ was able to somewhat save the saga but couldn't do it without plot holes or bringing back characters that shouldn't have come back

Remember I said Palpatine coming back from far-fetched, I didn't say I agreed with it

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 21 minutes ago
How old was Ren when we first meet him, what 20 at least.
But Emperor was messing with him from day one right?
So by my math, 10 years of peace at best.

why am i bothering to try justify Ep 9's decisions...why
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I think Kylo's 10 years older than Rey so he was late 20's in TFA

In my view the Emperor was basically 99% dead for most of the film, he couldn't survive without that machine thing clinged to him and didn't even have his Sith eyes. It wasn't until he used the force energy from Kylo and Rey that he came back alive and that was for less than 5 minutes

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Things I liked in this movie:

More lightsaber action than any other movie in this trilogy.
The space battle was the biggest we've seen and certainly the most visually appeasing in this trilogy.
The music, reys theme, kylos theme, the main star wars theme etc, simply iconic.
The pacing and constant scene to scene action meant that I was never bored.

That's about it.
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I think overall, the lightsaber battles were poor throughout the trilogy.

In this age of cinema and with the money at their disposal, we should’ve been treated to the greatest lightsaber moments in the saga. In reality, it doesn’t come close to Phantom Menace - although I did enjoy the Kylo v Rey dual on the deathstar wreckage in the ocean.

As for the pacing, I felt that it was too quick. It barely gave us time to breathe. As soon as we got to a new location, it was a new macguffin and before we knew it, they were on the move again.

In fact, in just 3-4 minutes, they unpicked about 3-4 questions with a brief prologue.

ok. he was on life support. fair enough.
on a Sith unknown world. Luke had gone off grid so couldn't sense anything...
what was the mission Lando and Luke had gone on before?

of course, there's Leia, she could'e sensed it.
i always thought that was her greatest strength sensing danger, but flying through space in an unconscious state is quite impressive...

I've just watched the new movie and actually thought it was alright. Still very confused by who's who's kids etc. And also confused how the feck Luke lifted his x-wing from the water from the dead, but all in all, it's the best of the 3 and the only one I'd watch again.

it's crazy, i had a good time, i can easily watch this again, and look forward too. but man, i can't, now that we have all 3 films, i can't give this a pass.
just all very unfortunate in the grand scheme of things..
hope lessons are learned.

think i gotta seriously rewatch all 3 back to back,
its been a while...

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 22 minutes ago
ok. he was on life support. fair enough.
on a Sith unknown world. Luke had gone off grid so couldn't sense anything...
what was the mission Lando and Luke had gone on before?

of course, there's Leia, she could'e sensed it.
i always thought that was her greatest strength sensing danger, but flying through space in an unconscious state is quite impressive...
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The entire Jedi order could not sense Palpatine during the prequels who was metres away from them a lot of the time. I don't think it's that far-fetched (again)

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
it's crazy, i had a good time, i can easily watch this again, and look forward too. but man, i can't, now that we have all 3 films, i can't give this a pass.
just all very unfortunate in the grand scheme of things..
hope lessons are learned.

think i gotta seriously rewatch all 3 back to back,
its been a while...


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The first 6 yeah and then I'd skip straight to 9! 🤣

fair enough Obers, that is true. Yoda couldn't sense him.

Damn this stream is long, when does it end?
he's got 6 hr videos?! what the?!

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well now, won't it be interesting to get yer hands on Colin Trevorow's script for Ep 9.
The one that made Daisy cry when she saw it at a party for TLJ.
Gotta be the one that has Leia front and centre.

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comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
7/10 Mandalorian episode 7

This episode raised the stakes and we're starting to see the story develop as it reaches it's season finale. There were also some links to TROS in this episode but I cannot wait for the final episode next week. I have thoroughly enjoyed this show and despite one or two mundane episodes, the overall consenus from me is a positive one. Disney may have failed with the movies but this show is proving to be exactly what the star wars fans needed.
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The mandalorian has been superb I think. Although the episodes are short they have us chomping for more which is exactly what you want from a TV show. I've really liked the storyline and the way it has progressed. I mean, little Yoda for christs sake, it's been boss.

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
7/10 Mandalorian episode 7

This episode raised the stakes and we're starting to see the story develop as it reaches it's season finale. There were also some links to TROS in this episode but I cannot wait for the final episode next week. I have thoroughly enjoyed this show and despite one or two mundane episodes, the overall consenus from me is a positive one. Disney may have failed with the movies but this show is proving to be exactly what the star wars fans needed.
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The mandalorian has been superb I think. Although the episodes are short they have us chomping for more which is exactly what you want from a TV show. I've really liked the storyline and the way it has progressed. I mean, little Yoda for christs sake, it's been boss.
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I think it’s been a mixed bag tbh, some ultra boringness like episode 2 and then some quality ones like the heist.

comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
7/10 Mandalorian episode 7

This episode raised the stakes and we're starting to see the story develop as it reaches it's season finale. There were also some links to TROS in this episode but I cannot wait for the final episode next week. I have thoroughly enjoyed this show and despite one or two mundane episodes, the overall consenus from me is a positive one. Disney may have failed with the movies but this show is proving to be exactly what the star wars fans needed.
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The mandalorian has been superb I think. Although the episodes are short they have us chomping for more which is exactly what you want from a TV show. I've really liked the storyline and the way it has progressed. I mean, little Yoda for christs sake, it's been boss.
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I think it’s been a mixed bag tbh, some ultra boringness like episode 2 and then some quality ones like the heist.
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Show me a TV series that doesn't have fillers? I get your point though.

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
7/10 Mandalorian episode 7

This episode raised the stakes and we're starting to see the story develop as it reaches it's season finale. There were also some links to TROS in this episode but I cannot wait for the final episode next week. I have thoroughly enjoyed this show and despite one or two mundane episodes, the overall consenus from me is a positive one. Disney may have failed with the movies but this show is proving to be exactly what the star wars fans needed.
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The mandalorian has been superb I think. Although the episodes are short they have us chomping for more which is exactly what you want from a TV show. I've really liked the storyline and the way it has progressed. I mean, little Yoda for christs sake, it's been boss.
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I think it’s been a mixed bag tbh, some ultra boringness like episode 2 and then some quality ones like the heist.
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Show me a TV series that doesn't have fillers? I get your point though.
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Shouldn’t be having fillers 2 episodes in especially when episodes are barely making the 30 min mark.

Quite sad that this movie is doing as well as it is even if it's underperformed compared to the previous two. It doesn't deserve to break the billion dollar mark worldwide. This trilogy is a pathetic excuse for Star Wars and will be remembered as such by future generations.

This movie breaking a billion dollars worldwide only means that Disney are more likely to give us another trilogy with these forgettable idiotic characters further down the line. Is that what people want ? Because that's what they'll get.

Oh and Rey will win easily without a scratch yet again no doubt as she's just so perfect and totally unbeatable in every way. Because that's how reality works. The end.

comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
7/10 Mandalorian episode 7

This episode raised the stakes and we're starting to see the story develop as it reaches it's season finale. There were also some links to TROS in this episode but I cannot wait for the final episode next week. I have thoroughly enjoyed this show and despite one or two mundane episodes, the overall consenus from me is a positive one. Disney may have failed with the movies but this show is proving to be exactly what the star wars fans needed.
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The mandalorian has been superb I think. Although the episodes are short they have us chomping for more which is exactly what you want from a TV show. I've really liked the storyline and the way it has progressed. I mean, little Yoda for christs sake, it's been boss.
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I think it’s been a mixed bag tbh, some ultra boringness like episode 2 and then some quality ones like the heist.
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Show me a TV series that doesn't have fillers? I get your point though.
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Shouldn’t be having fillers 2 episodes in especially when episodes are barely making the 30 min mark.
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I don't think they're that bad, it's built the story up, especially for episode 7. I cannot wait for this last episode, I hope it's just as good as 7 and it ends on a real bombshell.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
Quite sad that this movie is doing as well as it is even if it's underperformed compared to the previous two. It doesn't deserve to break the billion dollar mark worldwide. This trilogy is a pathetic excuse for Star Wars and will be remembered as such by future generations.

This movie breaking a billion dollars worldwide only means that Disney are more likely to give us another trilogy with these forgettable idiotic characters further down the line. Is that what people want ? Because that's what they'll get.

Oh and Rey will win easily without a scratch yet again no doubt as she's just so perfect and totally unbeatable in every way. Because that's how reality works. The end.
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Havent seen it 'yet' and lets use yet loosely!

So you are telling me that she hardly broke a sweat through the whole movie again?

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
Quite sad that this movie is doing as well as it is even if it's underperformed compared to the previous two. It doesn't deserve to break the billion dollar mark worldwide. This trilogy is a pathetic excuse for Star Wars and will be remembered as such by future generations.

This movie breaking a billion dollars worldwide only means that Disney are more likely to give us another trilogy with these forgettable idiotic characters further down the line. Is that what people want ? Because that's what they'll get.

Oh and Rey will win easily without a scratch yet again no doubt as she's just so perfect and totally unbeatable in every way. Because that's how reality works. The end.
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Sorry Superb but you haven't even seen the film. Rey is by far the best she has been in this film compared to either of the other two. Very complicated and flawed. It's Finn who really didn't get any development beyond "I'm an ex storm trooper" and screaming people's names

Superb is wound up

I thought it was good. The last one of the most recent films was an acceptable way to end. Nothing more

The Actors are fine. you can see the dynamic between them and its fun. you kinda wished they had focused on that more, instead of shoe horning people in...
They chose them 3, and should've stuck with them and written them better.
why hint that Finn was the 'one'.. tease us in the trailer with him holding a saber. Only to knock him back to cheerleader...
A Storm Trooper, orphaned or kidnapped by the Empire, discovers himself, and flees to become a Jedi... ok maybe not even a Jedi, but they had something compelling with him, and they dropped it.

Predictions that this movie won't even make a billion worldwide:

https://youtu.be/MTC7KC3lNzc

https://youtu.be/m1a3_FjwJsk

Each movie has made less than the last one. Big box office drop from Force Awakens to Last Jedi. And another further drop predicted from Last Jedi to this movie.

If the concluding movie in the nine movie Skywalker saga can't even take in a billion then that must be considered a huge failure. It should be absolutely crushing it and maybe even giving Endgame a run for it's money financially. Looks like it won't get anywhere near, especially after absolutely flopping in China.

I’m old school when it comes to the Box Office.
Make 2.5 times the budget, and it’s a success.
So I reckon, 600-700 million is the real target.
The whole Billion thing is just optics and bragging rights.
But yeh, if it doesn’t reach a Billion, they will get slated for it.
Also, Star Wars franchise has no traction in China... I think the problem stems from the other 6 never screening over there originally and now coming in at Ep 7, might have been a jump too far, and I don’t think they really care for it.