comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 2 minutes ago
And yes I agree, Cameron getting so behind the In campaign is very likely to turn a lot of neutrals against him and then vote out. I hope he realises that - just let people make their own minds up.

(Still in tho)
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Cameron isn't in my mind, it's Corbyn who I'm following.

comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't pretend to know the entire population of this country, but going by social media and people on the streets of London it seriously makes me wonder how the hell the Tories walked the elections last year. You're so much more likely to meet a Cameron hater on the street now.
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London is pretty much solid Labour though, isn't it?

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't pretend to know the entire population of this country, but going by social media and people on the streets of London it seriously makes me wonder how the hell the Tories walked the elections last year. You're so much more likely to meet a Cameron hater on the street now.
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London is pretty much solid Labour though, isn't it?
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Since when? I always thought London and the toffs followed Tories. I can't keep up.

Cockneys

comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
I think he's saying Cameron is leading the 'remain' campaign, people don't like Cameron, people are stupid, people will vote against Cameron.

Despite these same stupid people voting him in to power in the last general election. But the papers told them to find Milliband funny and unelectable then.
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yeah this really, there's just so many lies from both sides and no one is telling the truth as well. It's a mess of a referendum tbh..
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It's not lies as such... more 'speculation'... no one knows how this, that or the other will actually be. The best each side can do is look at the worst case scenario, make it sound even worse and then use that as a scare tactic

Nah HC is right, most of the London councils here are hugely Labour dominated.

comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 12 minutes ago
I've got a feeling we'll be leaving the EU, people of this country are just getting fed up with Cameron's crap. Would be a shame if we do leave though..
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What Henrycats said. This site will be quiet until the start of the Euro.

In.

Oh and Jonhson is also full of crap btw.

comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't pretend to know the entire population of this country, but going by social media and people on the streets of London it seriously makes me wonder how the hell the Tories walked the elections last year. You're so much more likely to meet a Cameron hater on the street now.
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London is pretty much solid Labour though, isn't it?
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Since when? I always thought London and the toffs followed Tories. I can't keep up.

Cockneys



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Since forever. In fact I just checked, Labour increased their seats in the capital last year, up 7 to 45 - over the tories 27.

You need to readjust your prejudice.

comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 4 minutes ago


The people campaigning for IN generally annoy me so I start shouting back at the tele when they're on. And if I have two hands free I stick my fingers in my ears.
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I'm voting IN but I must admit the scare mongering from Cameron and the IN brigade is really starting to pi55 me off...so much so I'm tempted to vote out.

"
Since when? I always thought London and the toffs followed Tories. "

blimey

Has the North thawed yet or is your brain still encased in perma-frost?

Say we do leave as well, what's that gonna say about Cameron's future as a PM? He was a staunchly in campaigner.

Both campaigns have been terrible. With mis-information and downright lies appearing in the media on a daily basis.

Both Cameron and Boris have nothing more than political self interest in mind, and their conduct (especially Johnston) has been embarrassing.

While the EU is not perfect, I believe it is imperative we remain. For anyone interested Frankie Boyle penned a great article yesterday which is worth a read:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/31/brexit-referendum-campaigns-politicians

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't pretend to know the entire population of this country, but going by social media and people on the streets of London it seriously makes me wonder how the hell the Tories walked the elections last year. You're so much more likely to meet a Cameron hater on the street now.
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London is pretty much solid Labour though, isn't it?
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Since when? I always thought London and the toffs followed Tories. I can't keep up.

Cockneys



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Since forever. In fact I just checked, Labour increased their seats in the capital last year, up 7 to 45 - over the tories 27.

You need to readjust your prejudice.
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Surrounding areas are Tories like Surrey, Berkshire, Hampshire, Kent etc

I think most of the people up north will be voting out.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 second ago
Both campaigns have been terrible. With mis-information and downright lies appearing in the media on a daily basis.

Both Cameron and Boris have nothing more than political self interest in mind, and their conduct (especially Johnston) has been embarrassing.

While the EU is not perfect, I believe it is imperative we remain. For anyone interested Frankie Boyle penned a great article yesterday which is worth a read:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/31/brexit-referendum-campaigns-politicians

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This.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't pretend to know the entire population of this country, but going by social media and people on the streets of London it seriously makes me wonder how the hell the Tories walked the elections last year. You're so much more likely to meet a Cameron hater on the street now.
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London is pretty much solid Labour though, isn't it?
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Since when? I always thought London and the toffs followed Tories. I can't keep up.

Cockneys



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Since forever. In fact I just checked, Labour increased their seats in the capital last year, up 7 to 45 - over the tories 27.

You need to readjust your prejudice.
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Southern shandy drinking, non-chips and gravy believing, labour-voting, cockney, Northern-adoring, Westeros, Lannister, peasant scuum?

In, in and thrice in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_make-up_of_local_councils_in_the_United_Kingdom

scroll down on this and you'll see who controls what borough in London, there's only like 7 councils run by the Tories.

comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 14 seconds ago

Southern shandy drinking, non-chips and gravy believing, labour-voting, cockney, Northern-adoring, Westeros, Lannister, peasant scuum?


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Ummm.....yeees?

comment by He's magic you know, Mauricio Pochettino (U20915)
posted 12 seconds ago
I'm voting IN but I must admit the scare mongering from Cameron and the IN brigade is really starting to pi55 me off...so much so I'm tempted to vote out.
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I thought Sadiq Khan's article in the Telegraph at the weekend was actually quite decent.
I don't know much about him but he managed to do what I tthought was impossible in politics these days. Putting rivalries aside for the good of the country.

The answer to somebody's question of what happens to Cameron if we do leave is that he's finished.

But on to the serious side Shinj... yes, Switzerland do not have embargoes etc... embargoes are only one thing. Have you ever tried sending anything to Switzerland? In comparison to anywhere in the EU, it's a nightmare as it is subject to import export and vat charge/reclaim, as opposed to the simple movement of goods.

comment by He's magic you know, Mauricio Pochettino (U20915)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't pretend to know the entire population of this country, but going by social media and people on the streets of London it seriously makes me wonder how the hell the Tories walked the elections last year. You're so much more likely to meet a Cameron hater on the street now.
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London is pretty much solid Labour though, isn't it?
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Since when? I always thought London and the toffs followed Tories. I can't keep up.

Cockneys



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Since forever. In fact I just checked, Labour increased their seats in the capital last year, up 7 to 45 - over the tories 27.

You need to readjust your prejudice.
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Surrounding areas are Tories like Surrey, Berkshire, Hampshire, Kent etc
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Berkshire is actually more multicultural, places like Slough houses a lot of new immigrants from Poland and Romania as well as well as Indians and Pakistanis, all more like;y to vote Labour.

comment by Komakino (U7809)
posted 17 seconds ago
The answer to somebody's question of what happens to Cameron if we do leave is that he's finished.
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and then what happens? We get George Osborne running us instead? Or even worse.. Boris Johnson?

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 14 seconds ago

Southern shandy drinking, non-chips and gravy believing, labour-voting, cockney, Northern-adoring, Westeros, Lannister, peasant scuum?


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Ummm.....yeees?
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I knew I was politically versatile.