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So what do we make of Vardy to Arsenal?

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comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 4/6/16

The new Francis Jeffers!

I like Vardy, he is a decent player that played in a team of decent players, a team that had a good work ethic, team unity and played to their strengths...Unlike Arsenal!

posted on 4/6/16

I'm still not convinced Vardy is anything special; 50 career goals to date at the age of 29? His form petered out second half of last season after what could, in hindsight, be viewed as a once in a career purple patch. He could be another James Beattie. If Arsenal want to make him their big summer striker signing I won't be quaking about them next season.

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I think Sergio Ramos beat him to 50 goals

His all-round play is poor based on what he's shown last season. Barely touched the ball and couldn't pass it well either, unless he was just attempting to hoof it in the general direction of a teammate.

Nowadays you've got to be more involved in the general play rather than chasing long balls like Owen did with Heskey to flick the ball on. I don't see Vardy fitting at Arsenal, so Arsenal should crack on and sign him.

posted on 4/6/16

Complete load of bo|locks being spouted about Arsenal all over the shop at the minute. We play a slow, laboured passing style because we have a slow, laboured donkey upfront in Giroud. Games where we have played Walcott (United 3-0, Bayern 2-0) and Welbeck upfront have proven our capability to play a fast, direct, counter attacking game but unfortunately neither of those 2 have been able to prove their consistency. You could even look further back to how the 'atrocious' Yaya Sanogo benefitted us as an attacking option (think Dortmund 2-0) purely down to his pace and mobility.

Ozil absolutely thrives off pace up front and a ball in behind, he has just very rarely had the opportunity to demonstrate this. Sanchez too enjoys a forward who will stretch and occupy the opposition Centre backs.

History tell us that Wenger prefers a direct, pacey centre forward - unfortunately there have been "none available" - and a direct counter-attacking style. We are a better club that way. The only reason Arsenal fans are disappointed in Vardy is because they've been getting excited over Morata (who most have barely seen play) or Higuain.

posted on 4/6/16

Who will score more goals Payet or Vardy?Time will tell.

comment by (U18814)

posted on 4/6/16

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posted on 4/6/16

Games where we have played Walcott (United 3-0, Bayern 2-0) and Welbeck upfront have proven our capability to play a fast, direct, counter attacking game but....
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These are rare occasions where the opponent sets out to dominate the game and the ball, thus presenting the counter attacking opportunities. Exception not the rule.

comment by SamIam (U12807)

posted on 4/6/16

What a bad signing. He doesnt fit Arsenal's play. Another sign that Wenger has lost it. Keep Joel on bench but sign Vardy.

posted on 4/6/16

Another 'Fox in the Box' esque type of failure signing?

I'm surprised Arsenal have not gone in for Lukaku, will cost more than double what we paid but he would be superb for them - not that I want him to go anywhere mind!

posted on 4/6/16

comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
Games where we have played Walcott (United 3-0, Bayern 2-0) and Welbeck upfront have proven our capability to play a fast, direct, counter attacking game but....
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These are rare occasions where the opponent sets out to dominate the game and the ball, thus presenting the counter attacking opportunities. Exception not the rule.
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No they aren't. They're rare occasions because the two-players mentioned can not keep themselves fit.

Not every team (not even a majority) is going to sit on the 6 yard box vs us, it's complete myth and insanely stupid to believe so. It's also complete myth and insanely stupid to believe we don't/won't have any other means of breaking these kinds of team down. Vardy will make us a better team and weaken the current champions. He won't have any trouble fitting into our system, which when Giroud isn't presented is completely based on direct, counter attacking football - for £20m he's a steal.

posted on 4/6/16

comment by The Ace Face (U18814)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 3 minutes ago
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Sanchez and Ozil probably won't be Arsenal players too much longer. Ozil running down his contract, Sanchez not a happy bunny last season.
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Can't blame them. A good summer (as it's looking to be) will change all that though.

comment by SB&S (U17757)

posted on 4/6/16

Vardy - I'd be gobsmacked if he left his comfort zone at Leicester. He must surely know he's better off all round staying put. As for Zlatan going to United, I don't get that either?!? For some reason many Utd fans are getting really excited about it? I really thought he would want to end on a career high making loadsa money is China than limping out knackered half way through a very tiring season in Manchester.

posted on 4/6/16

comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
Games where we have played Walcott (United 3-0, Bayern 2-0) and Welbeck upfront have proven our capability to play a fast, direct, counter attacking game but....
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These are rare occasions where the opponent sets out to dominate the game and the ball, thus presenting the counter attacking opportunities. Exception not the rule.
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No they aren't. They're rare occasions because the two-players mentioned can not keep themselves fit.

Not every team (not even a majority) is going to sit on the 6 yard box vs us, it's complete myth and insanely stupid to believe so. It's also complete myth and insanely stupid to believe we don't/won't have any other means of breaking these kinds of team down. Vardy will make us a better team and weaken the current champions. He won't have any trouble fitting into our system, which when Giroud isn't presented is completely based on direct, counter attacking football - for £20m he's a steal.
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In that case, highlight a few other games against the lesser lights where you've been able to exploit Walcott's pace - apart from with 5 mins to go when you're winning by a goal.

posted on 4/6/16

comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
Games where we have played Walcott (United 3-0, Bayern 2-0) and Welbeck upfront have proven our capability to play a fast, direct, counter attacking game but....
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These are rare occasions where the opponent sets out to dominate the game and the ball, thus presenting the counter attacking opportunities. Exception not the rule.
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No they aren't. They're rare occasions because the two-players mentioned can not keep themselves fit.

Not every team (not even a majority) is going to sit on the 6 yard box vs us, it's complete myth and insanely stupid to believe so. It's also complete myth and insanely stupid to believe we don't/won't have any other means of breaking these kinds of team down. Vardy will make us a better team and weaken the current champions. He won't have any trouble fitting into our system, which when Giroud isn't presented is completely based on direct, counter attacking football - for £20m he's a steal.
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In that case, highlight a few other games against the lesser lights where you've been able to exploit Walcott's pace - apart from with 5 mins to go when you're winning by a goal.

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We beat Watford 3-0 the following week with Theo upfront. We also beat the sit back and defend team of all teams Stoke City with Theo Walcott upfront.

You believe in a myth because you do not watch us every week. Stop embarrassing yourself.

posted on 4/6/16

A lot of fans of opposing teams trying to devalue the potential signing of Vardy when deep down they are a bit annoyed that their club isn't in for him

posted on 4/6/16

Are we going to suddenly play 2 up top? Because I doubt Vardy can play there on his own. Just another reason that this is a pretty baffling move by the club in my opinion.

posted on 4/6/16

comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
Games where we have played Walcott (United 3-0, Bayern 2-0) and Welbeck upfront have proven our capability to play a fast, direct, counter attacking game but....
_____________

These are rare occasions where the opponent sets out to dominate the game and the ball, thus presenting the counter attacking opportunities. Exception not the rule.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No they aren't. They're rare occasions because the two-players mentioned can not keep themselves fit.

Not every team (not even a majority) is going to sit on the 6 yard box vs us, it's complete myth and insanely stupid to believe so. It's also complete myth and insanely stupid to believe we don't/won't have any other means of breaking these kinds of team down. Vardy will make us a better team and weaken the current champions. He won't have any trouble fitting into our system, which when Giroud isn't presented is completely based on direct, counter attacking football - for £20m he's a steal.
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In that case, highlight a few other games against the lesser lights where you've been able to exploit Walcott's pace - apart from with 5 mins to go when you're winning by a goal.

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We beat Watford 3-0 the following week with Theo upfront. We also beat the sit back and defend team of all teams Stoke City with Theo Walcott upfront.

You believe in a myth because you do not watch us every week. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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I watched the Watford game, you were all over them and had them pinned in their own half. Absolutely nothing to do with them taking the game to you and pushing up the pitch. It was also a game where you took Walcott off after the first goal

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I fail to see how forming an opinion without watching a team every week is classed as embarrassing myself. I don't need to watch a team/player every week to have an opinion, if so then it means you're not in a position to have an opinion on anything/anyone you've not seen on a weekly basis.

comment by SB&S (U17757)

posted on 4/6/16

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 2 minutes ago
A lot of fans of opposing teams trying to devalue the potential signing of Vardy when deep down they are a bit annoyed that their club isn't in for him
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I think that's too simplistic. He's been a very good goal scorer but most fans just don't get why a) Arsenal would want to pay £20m plus wages or b) why Vardy would want to leave having achieved three dreams at Leicester, a EPL Winners medal, a chance to play CL football and a call up to Euro 2016. It really isn't envy, it's more why, pure and simple? I have to say if I was the chairman at LCFC I might be chomping at the bit to make a £19m profit on a 29 year old player mind.

posted on 4/6/16

comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago

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I watched the Watford game, you were all over them and had them pinned in their own half. Absolutely nothing to do with them taking the game to you and pushing up the pitch. It was also a game where you took Walcott off after the first goal

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Don't know if you even know yourself what point you're trying to argue now? Had them camped in their own half (thus their own box) and managed to make the breakthrough with a pacy "in-behind" striker on the pitch. Well, yep, that's my argument proved. Completely overlooking the Stoke example.

I have given countless examples. A majority of Walcott and Welbecks stints upfront have been successful against a variety of teams, yourselves included. There is no reason to believe that Vardy will not improve us or will not fit in. We're made for a player like him (as Welbeck and Walcott prove).

posted on 4/6/16

comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 22 minutes ago
Are we going to suddenly play 2 up top? Because I doubt Vardy can play there on his own. Just another reason that this is a pretty baffling move by the club in my opinion.
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If he can get buy with Ulloa, Payet and Albrighton supporting him then I think he will be just fine with Sanchez, Ozil and Wilshere/Ramsey.

posted on 4/6/16

"If he can get buy with Ulloa, Payet and Albrighton supporting him then I think he will be just fine with Sanchez, Ozil and Wilshere/Ramsey"
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Has he been moonlighting for West Ham or France lately ? Has Mahrez been swapping shirts with Payet at half-time ?

posted on 4/6/16

comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago

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I watched the Watford game, you were all over them and had them pinned in their own half. Absolutely nothing to do with them taking the game to you and pushing up the pitch. It was also a game where you took Walcott off after the first goal

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Don't know if you even know yourself what point you're trying to argue now? Had them camped in their own half (thus their own box) and managed to make the breakthrough with a pacy "in-behind" striker on the pitch. Well, yep, that's my argument proved. Completely overlooking the Stoke example.

I have given countless examples. A majority of Walcott and Welbecks stints upfront have been successful against a variety of teams, yourselves included. There is no reason to believe that Vardy will not improve us or will not fit in. We're made for a player like him (as Welbeck and Walcott prove).
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https://youtu.be/lIfAKD-swf4

So if a goal is scored that has absolutely no involvement from a particular player who's on the pitch at the time, it proves he was decisive in it?

"I've given countless examples...." Two is countless is it?

I didn't say anything about the Stoke game because that was a valid example.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 4/6/16

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 42 minutes ago
A lot of fans of opposing teams trying to devalue the potential signing of Vardy when deep down they are a bit annoyed that their club isn't in for him
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Like who? Arsenal are the only side top side that clearly need a first choice striker..... A world class striker too. Vardy is not that

posted on 4/6/16

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posted on 4/6/16

Seems like Wenger is going with the cheap option yet again.

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