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Sterling reminds me of SWP. Always making those blind allay runs. Awful end product and no creativity whatsoever.
The Russian were static, left big spaces, thus giving a prefect opportunity for any half decent winger to exploit.
Sterling yesterday was well worth of "headless chicken" comments yesterday.
Shame Woy didn't take Townsend, he so often does the business for England when given a chance.
Think we may regret not taking Walcott and Townsend. As bad as they may be they would have been a damn site better than Sterling, Alli and Lallana last hight!
I think it's clear he's struggling badly with confidence, Rooney had a decent game yesterday but having him ij midfield in the team effects the shape, fluidity and slows. The commentator went overboard with their positivity, we didn't win and we didn't score from open play against a distinctly average Russia team. How good could we have been?
Rooney was the best player on the pitch why take him off and not kane who was anonymous. Get Vardy on with his pace, he would have caused havoc.
That's debatable, he shouldn't have started and because as much as he likes to think otherwise he's not a central midfielder. He doesnt have the awareness or the composure, granted he can pass the ball when given time but he won't get that against better teams.
comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 25 minutes ago
I think it's clear he's struggling badly with confidence, Rooney had a decent game yesterday but having him ij midfield in the team effects the shape, fluidity and slows. The commentator went overboard with their positivity, we didn't win and we didn't score from open play against a distinctly average Russia team. How good could we have been?
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agreed
play midfielders in midfield and strikers at striker or don't play them at all regardless of their name.
we didn't win and we didn't score from open play against a distinctly average Russia team. How good could we have been?
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It is a valid question
You clearly lack an understanding of football. There are many ways to create chances for a wide player. You have the simple running down the line and crossing it as the most used example for the lesser players. For the better ones and the example where Sterling got it to Rose for one of England's best chances of the game, he dragged two players with him using his pace and skill and tactical awareness, which created a gaping hole for Rose to exploit. It was Sterling that made Rose look good in that move by doing all the work whilst Rose simply ran on to the ball and crossed it.
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Unfortunately I think your analysis of the situation is off the mark.
Firstly Sterling only back heeled the ball because otherwise it was running out for a goalkick.
As previously commented it was Rose who made it look like a good pass by reacting quickly to it.
As for tactical awareness,REALLY?? Sterling has little tactical awareness & it shows clearly!
Why do people keep mentioning Townsend?
Sterling didn't have enough end product (apparently) so we should play someone who has less?
Riiiight.
Two jobs every man thinks they can do. Prime minister and England manager.
And yes Sterling tactically is very good as demonstrated by his defensive work. I suspect he was asked to hug the touchline but having watched him since he was 15 I'm not sure that's his strength.
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The B... (U1302)
posted 6 minutes ago
You clearly lack an understanding of football. There are many ways to create chances for a wide player. You have the simple running down the line and crossing it as the most used example for the lesser players. For the better ones and the example where Sterling got it to Rose for one of England's best chances of the game, he dragged two players with him using his pace and skill and tactical awareness, which created a gaping hole for Rose to exploit. It was Sterling that made Rose look good in that move by doing all the work whilst Rose simply ran on to the ball and crossed it.
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Unfortunately I think your analysis of the situation is off the mark.
Firstly Sterling only back heeled the ball because otherwise it was running out for a goalkick.
As previously commented it was Rose who made it look like a good pass by reacting quickly to it.
As for tactical awareness,REALLY?? Sterling has little tactical awareness & it shows clearly!
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His tactical awareness is his best trait for me. It's why I believe he will become a top player. He's not your typical kick, rush and cross winger, he has the intelligence to pull players out of position to make space for his team mates. He plays inside, short passes, moving the opposition around and then know when the run. He needs players around him who are on his wavelength, Kane failed badly by never being in the box and when getting it outside, blasting it over the bar. He touched the ball in the box once for crying out loud. The midfield didn't have much to aim at. The game cried out for Alli coming off for Wilshere with Rooney going behind Sturridge on Vardy who should have replaced Kane.
This is not a slight on Spurs players, they just happened to be the two players who had a poor game, it happens. However after that game is be considering bringing Wilshere in against Wales and playing Rooney behind Kane.
Sterlings performance last night was what us Liverpool fans were talking about before his move to City and the reason we said he's not a £50m player. He was decent first half but dropped off in the second, running down cul-de-sacs and not getting his head up. He's still inconsistent and that was one of the most frustrating things for us because he's got the potential. If he was going to fulfill it he would've done it by now.
Sterling created a special moment when he stopped that ball and left it hanging ,he realised he could take the full back out of the game by running off the pitch ,then gambled that Rose would get to it first
Unique moment created by a fast working football brain
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
Sterlings performance last night was what us Liverpool fans were talking about before his move to City and the reason we said he's not a £50m player. He was decent first half but dropped off in the second, running down cul-de-sacs and not getting his head up. He's still inconsistent and that was one of the most frustrating things for us because he's got the potential. If he was going to fulfill it he would've done it by now.
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If he was gonna fulfil his potential he would have done it by now, at twenty one years old?! Wow.
At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product, I certainly was complaining about it, certainly since he became one of our main threats at twenty, was moved up front when Sturridge was injured as he was our main threat, even ahead of strikers and then chalked up assist and goal stats for City last season which not many twenty one year olds across Europe can match, whilst supposedly being crap. It just shows you how much he can improve and if he does he'll be notching up a crazy amount of goals and assists. He was also voted the best young player in Europe.
People talk about Sterling as if he's a twenty eight year old at his peak who his club and country have to rely on as a main player, it just shows how good he actually is that he's talked about in this way.
TOOR
"At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product"
I didn't. I said he's inconsistent. He'll do well for a match, or part of a match, and then switch off. This is what me, people I go the match with & people who sit near me in the Centenary were talking about.
He hasn't changed in the 3 seasons he's been playing and I don't see him changing IMO.
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
TOOR
"At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product"
I didn't. I said he's inconsistent. He'll do well for a match, or part of a match, and then switch off. This is what me, people I go the match with & people who sit near me in the Centenary were talking about.
He hasn't changed in the 3 seasons he's been playing and I don't see him changing IMO.
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Of course he's inconsistent, he's twenty-one. Not many twenty one year olds aren't. When he adds experience, he'll add more consistency, history tells us this.
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In answer to your question, OP, NO.
And neither does Roy Hodgson.
Poor team selection & didn't make the changes that were needed. Kane & Sterling should have been off, Vardy & Sturridge ON.
It was so obvious.
I love how it was all Sterlings fault
Kane Alli and Lallana were poor
Hodgson just as bad although he did set us up well.
Daft subs and wrong players coming off and on
Russia were appalling and we played well without being clinical but we were never going to do well with Hodgson in charge. For some reason he's managed us in 3 fooking tournaments! Can someone explain how and why?
comment by CANuLEIVA (U18359)
posted 18 minutes ago
I love how it was all Sterlings fault
Kane Alli and Lallana were poor
Hodgson just as bad although he did set us up well.
Daft subs and wrong players coming off and on
Russia were appalling and we played well without being clinical but we were never going to do well with Hodgson in charge. For some reason he's managed us in 3 fooking tournaments! Can someone explain how and why?
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I wouldn't say it was Sterling's fault, but he was definitely the weak link in the England attack.
If anyone is to blame, it's Woy for making the wrong changes. Perhaps Wilshere for Kane, moving Rooney up front or Vardy for Sterling. Easy to say in hindsight of course
Sterling has been poorly coached over the last couple of years. He's not been playing with players like Stevie & Luis which has hindered his development
Growing pains, I'd expect him to improve under Pep
He's not exactly going to improve his game been coached by Roy is he. It's not surprise however he is England's only wide option with pace. With Lallana the other side you have to put some speed up there
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
TOOR
"At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product"
I didn't. I said he's inconsistent. He'll do well for a match, or part of a match, and then switch off. This is what me, people I go the match with & people who sit near me in the Centenary were talking about.
He hasn't changed in the 3 seasons he's been playing and I don't see him changing IMO.
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Of course he's inconsistent, he's twenty-one. Not many twenty one year olds aren't. When he adds experience, he'll add more consistency, history tells us this.
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History has also provided plenty examples of players who were never consistent.
Smicer, Young, Rosiksy, Forlan, Kanchelskis, Kewell.
The list is endless. And most of them were wide players. Goes with the territory.
M
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posted on 12/6/16
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posted on 12/6/16
Sterling reminds me of SWP. Always making those blind allay runs. Awful end product and no creativity whatsoever.
The Russian were static, left big spaces, thus giving a prefect opportunity for any half decent winger to exploit.
Sterling yesterday was well worth of "headless chicken" comments yesterday.
posted on 12/6/16
Shame Woy didn't take Townsend, he so often does the business for England when given a chance.
posted on 12/6/16
Think we may regret not taking Walcott and Townsend. As bad as they may be they would have been a damn site better than Sterling, Alli and Lallana last hight!
posted on 12/6/16
I think it's clear he's struggling badly with confidence, Rooney had a decent game yesterday but having him ij midfield in the team effects the shape, fluidity and slows. The commentator went overboard with their positivity, we didn't win and we didn't score from open play against a distinctly average Russia team. How good could we have been?
posted on 12/6/16
Rooney was the best player on the pitch why take him off and not kane who was anonymous. Get Vardy on with his pace, he would have caused havoc.
posted on 12/6/16
That's debatable, he shouldn't have started and because as much as he likes to think otherwise he's not a central midfielder. He doesnt have the awareness or the composure, granted he can pass the ball when given time but he won't get that against better teams.
posted on 12/6/16
comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 25 minutes ago
I think it's clear he's struggling badly with confidence, Rooney had a decent game yesterday but having him ij midfield in the team effects the shape, fluidity and slows. The commentator went overboard with their positivity, we didn't win and we didn't score from open play against a distinctly average Russia team. How good could we have been?
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agreed
play midfielders in midfield and strikers at striker or don't play them at all regardless of their name.
posted on 12/6/16
we didn't win and we didn't score from open play against a distinctly average Russia team. How good could we have been?
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It is a valid question
posted on 12/6/16
You clearly lack an understanding of football. There are many ways to create chances for a wide player. You have the simple running down the line and crossing it as the most used example for the lesser players. For the better ones and the example where Sterling got it to Rose for one of England's best chances of the game, he dragged two players with him using his pace and skill and tactical awareness, which created a gaping hole for Rose to exploit. It was Sterling that made Rose look good in that move by doing all the work whilst Rose simply ran on to the ball and crossed it.
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Unfortunately I think your analysis of the situation is off the mark.
Firstly Sterling only back heeled the ball because otherwise it was running out for a goalkick.
As previously commented it was Rose who made it look like a good pass by reacting quickly to it.
As for tactical awareness,REALLY?? Sterling has little tactical awareness & it shows clearly!
posted on 12/6/16
Why do people keep mentioning Townsend?
Sterling didn't have enough end product (apparently) so we should play someone who has less?
Riiiight.
Two jobs every man thinks they can do. Prime minister and England manager.
posted on 12/6/16
And yes Sterling tactically is very good as demonstrated by his defensive work. I suspect he was asked to hug the touchline but having watched him since he was 15 I'm not sure that's his strength.
posted on 12/6/16
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The B... (U1302)
posted 6 minutes ago
You clearly lack an understanding of football. There are many ways to create chances for a wide player. You have the simple running down the line and crossing it as the most used example for the lesser players. For the better ones and the example where Sterling got it to Rose for one of England's best chances of the game, he dragged two players with him using his pace and skill and tactical awareness, which created a gaping hole for Rose to exploit. It was Sterling that made Rose look good in that move by doing all the work whilst Rose simply ran on to the ball and crossed it.
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Unfortunately I think your analysis of the situation is off the mark.
Firstly Sterling only back heeled the ball because otherwise it was running out for a goalkick.
As previously commented it was Rose who made it look like a good pass by reacting quickly to it.
As for tactical awareness,REALLY?? Sterling has little tactical awareness & it shows clearly!
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His tactical awareness is his best trait for me. It's why I believe he will become a top player. He's not your typical kick, rush and cross winger, he has the intelligence to pull players out of position to make space for his team mates. He plays inside, short passes, moving the opposition around and then know when the run. He needs players around him who are on his wavelength, Kane failed badly by never being in the box and when getting it outside, blasting it over the bar. He touched the ball in the box once for crying out loud. The midfield didn't have much to aim at. The game cried out for Alli coming off for Wilshere with Rooney going behind Sturridge on Vardy who should have replaced Kane.
This is not a slight on Spurs players, they just happened to be the two players who had a poor game, it happens. However after that game is be considering bringing Wilshere in against Wales and playing Rooney behind Kane.
posted on 12/6/16
Sterlings performance last night was what us Liverpool fans were talking about before his move to City and the reason we said he's not a £50m player. He was decent first half but dropped off in the second, running down cul-de-sacs and not getting his head up. He's still inconsistent and that was one of the most frustrating things for us because he's got the potential. If he was going to fulfill it he would've done it by now.
posted on 12/6/16
Sterling created a special moment when he stopped that ball and left it hanging ,he realised he could take the full back out of the game by running off the pitch ,then gambled that Rose would get to it first
Unique moment created by a fast working football brain
posted on 12/6/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
Sterlings performance last night was what us Liverpool fans were talking about before his move to City and the reason we said he's not a £50m player. He was decent first half but dropped off in the second, running down cul-de-sacs and not getting his head up. He's still inconsistent and that was one of the most frustrating things for us because he's got the potential. If he was going to fulfill it he would've done it by now.
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If he was gonna fulfil his potential he would have done it by now, at twenty one years old?! Wow.
At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product, I certainly was complaining about it, certainly since he became one of our main threats at twenty, was moved up front when Sturridge was injured as he was our main threat, even ahead of strikers and then chalked up assist and goal stats for City last season which not many twenty one year olds across Europe can match, whilst supposedly being crap. It just shows you how much he can improve and if he does he'll be notching up a crazy amount of goals and assists. He was also voted the best young player in Europe.
People talk about Sterling as if he's a twenty eight year old at his peak who his club and country have to rely on as a main player, it just shows how good he actually is that he's talked about in this way.
posted on 12/6/16
Lol coutinho got told.
posted on 12/6/16
TOOR
"At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product"
I didn't. I said he's inconsistent. He'll do well for a match, or part of a match, and then switch off. This is what me, people I go the match with & people who sit near me in the Centenary were talking about.
He hasn't changed in the 3 seasons he's been playing and I don't see him changing IMO.
posted on 12/6/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
TOOR
"At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product"
I didn't. I said he's inconsistent. He'll do well for a match, or part of a match, and then switch off. This is what me, people I go the match with & people who sit near me in the Centenary were talking about.
He hasn't changed in the 3 seasons he's been playing and I don't see him changing IMO.
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Of course he's inconsistent, he's twenty-one. Not many twenty one year olds aren't. When he adds experience, he'll add more consistency, history tells us this.
posted on 12/6/16
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posted on 12/6/16
In answer to your question, OP, NO.
And neither does Roy Hodgson.
Poor team selection & didn't make the changes that were needed. Kane & Sterling should have been off, Vardy & Sturridge ON.
It was so obvious.
posted on 12/6/16
I love how it was all Sterlings fault
Kane Alli and Lallana were poor
Hodgson just as bad although he did set us up well.
Daft subs and wrong players coming off and on
Russia were appalling and we played well without being clinical but we were never going to do well with Hodgson in charge. For some reason he's managed us in 3 fooking tournaments! Can someone explain how and why?
posted on 12/6/16
comment by CANuLEIVA (U18359)
posted 18 minutes ago
I love how it was all Sterlings fault
Kane Alli and Lallana were poor
Hodgson just as bad although he did set us up well.
Daft subs and wrong players coming off and on
Russia were appalling and we played well without being clinical but we were never going to do well with Hodgson in charge. For some reason he's managed us in 3 fooking tournaments! Can someone explain how and why?
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I wouldn't say it was Sterling's fault, but he was definitely the weak link in the England attack.
If anyone is to blame, it's Woy for making the wrong changes. Perhaps Wilshere for Kane, moving Rooney up front or Vardy for Sterling. Easy to say in hindsight of course
posted on 12/6/16
Sterling has been poorly coached over the last couple of years. He's not been playing with players like Stevie & Luis which has hindered his development
Growing pains, I'd expect him to improve under Pep
He's not exactly going to improve his game been coached by Roy is he. It's not surprise however he is England's only wide option with pace. With Lallana the other side you have to put some speed up there
posted on 12/6/16
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
TOOR
"At don't put all Liverpool fans in the same boat complaining about Sterling's end product"
I didn't. I said he's inconsistent. He'll do well for a match, or part of a match, and then switch off. This is what me, people I go the match with & people who sit near me in the Centenary were talking about.
He hasn't changed in the 3 seasons he's been playing and I don't see him changing IMO.
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Of course he's inconsistent, he's twenty-one. Not many twenty one year olds aren't. When he adds experience, he'll add more consistency, history tells us this.
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History has also provided plenty examples of players who were never consistent.
Smicer, Young, Rosiksy, Forlan, Kanchelskis, Kewell.
The list is endless. And most of them were wide players. Goes with the territory.
M
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