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posted on 20/6/16

Mud - were you attempting comedy with your daily transfer update or not?

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 9 minutes ago
Mud, Kung Fu,whislt you might not like it do you accept that these people once choosing to leave a safe country for a more affluent one go from refugees to economic migrants?
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No I don't accept that, they are trying to find the most tolerant country to live in.

If you were forced to leave your home, you'ed at least try to find the best country to raise your family in.

Do you agree that British refugees during WW2 who found shelter in Canada and Australia were economic migrants?

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 9 minutes ago
Mud, Kung Fu,whislt you might not like it do you accept that these people once choosing to leave a safe country for a more affluent one go from refugees to economic migrants?
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No I don't accept that, they are trying to find the most tolerant country to live in.

If you were forced to leave your home, you'ed at least try to find the best country to raise your family in.

Do you agree that British refugees during WW2 who found shelter in Canada and Australia were economic migrants?
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The mind boggles.

If you flee persecution and arrive in a country and are persecuted there. Why would you stay there when someone else is more welcoming?

Rdd, please engage your brain

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mud - were you attempting comedy with your daily transfer update or not?
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I was mocking you with my daily transfer updates.

I have explained this already. Will you do the usual ask the same question 50 times?

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 20/6/16

Actually, that's not entirely accurate

There is a lot of information available if people want to see it.

IMF
BOE
FT
Economist
LSE

All these organisations have provided facts and figures.
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Excuse me for not believe reports for the Bank of England, the IMF and the Financial Times.

Sure you can understand why.

posted on 20/6/16

Argument for remain:

Mr Cameron, can you give me one reason why we should remain?

DC: If we vote to leave the economy will suffer and vital services will undoubtedly suffer as a result of that

Mr Cameron, I asked you for a reason why we should remain, just one benefit?

DC. look, I've already explained, if we leave then there will be a hit on the economy and as a result, cuts will need to be made

I'll ask you one more time mr Cameron, how will a remain vote improve living standards and quality of life for the citizens of the U.K.?

DC. Well the simple answer to that is that if we leave then our economy will suffer massively and no one wants that

Argument for leave:

Mr Farage, can you give me one good reason to leave the eu?

NF. Absolutely, if we remain then Britain will be bursting at the seams with all kinds of riff raff and we just won't be able to cope

Mr Farage, I specifically asked you for one good reason why Britain should leave?

NF. Well......If we do nothing before you know it, half the population of turkey will be beating a path to these shores

Mr Farage, for the last time, one good reason for Britain to vote OUT?

NF. Look, there's a human chain stretching from Syria to Calais, and they're all heading here, not on my watch.


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This is why a lot of people are fed up imo

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 20/6/16

Bobby

posted on 20/6/16

Kung fu , Mud initially they were refugees escaping war. Once they arrive in a safe country they then choose to become migrants. You might like it but that is fact.

Mud. - I ask ask you were contradictory earlier as to if you were trying to be funny or not. You are still no clearer. You thought you were mocking me however it quickly became apparent tot you that it was transparent, unfunny, laborious campaign that you eventually abandoned.

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 22 minutes ago
Kung fu , Mud initially they were refugees escaping war. Once they arrive in a safe country they then choose to become migrants. You might like it but that is fact.

Mud. - I ask ask you were contradictory earlier as to if you were trying to be funny or not. You are still no clearer. You thought you were mocking me however it quickly became apparent tot you that it was transparent, unfunny, laborious campaign that you eventually abandoned.
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So UK refugees who had homes destroyed during the blitz were migrants because they fled to Australia and Canada right?

Thats the third time I have asked you this question.

posted on 20/6/16

Well I believe they went there because those countries were part of the commonwealth and the evacuees would be out of harms way there. From what I many were put to work rather than given benefits.

Is that what you think? Kung Fu, Mud?

posted on 20/6/16

Death by a thousand questions

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 hour ago
Argument for remain:

Mr Cameron, can you give me one reason why we should remain?

DC: If we vote to leave the economy will suffer and vital services will undoubtedly suffer as a result of that

Mr Cameron, I asked you for a reason why we should remain, just one benefit?

DC. look, I've already explained, if we leave then there will be a hit on the economy and as a result, cuts will need to be made

I'll ask you one more time mr Cameron, how will a remain vote improve living standards and quality of life for the citizens of the U.K.?

DC. Well the simple answer to that is that if we leave then our economy will suffer massively and no one wants that

Argument for leave:

Mr Farage, can you give me one good reason to leave the eu?

NF. Absolutely, if we remain then Britain will be bursting at the seams with all kinds of riff raff and we just won't be able to cope

Mr Farage, I specifically asked you for one good reason why Britain should leave?

NF. Well......If we do nothing before you know it, half the population of turkey will be beating a path to these shores

Mr Farage, for the last time, one good reason for Britain to vote OUT?

NF. Look, there's a human chain stretching from Syria to Calais, and they're all heading here, not on my watch.


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This is why a lot of people are fed up imo

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And that's what amazes me. Remain have had ample opportunity to put forward a positive case, and there's an awful lot they could talk about.

But they've focussed solely on the (albeit important and strong) economic argument and then allowed their campaign to be dragged repeatedly back to migration.

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 20 minutes ago
Well I believe they went there because those countries were part of the commonwealth and the evacuees would be out of harms way there. From what I many were put to work rather than given benefits.

Is that what you think? Kung Fu, Mud?
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So they were migrants right?

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 20/6/16

comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 hour ago
Argument for remain:

Mr Cameron, can you give me one reason why we should remain?

DC: If we vote to leave the economy will suffer and vital services will undoubtedly suffer as a result of that

Mr Cameron, I asked you for a reason why we should remain, just one benefit?

DC. look, I've already explained, if we leave then there will be a hit on the economy and as a result, cuts will need to be made

I'll ask you one more time mr Cameron, how will a remain vote improve living standards and quality of life for the citizens of the U.K.?

DC. Well the simple answer to that is that if we leave then our economy will suffer massively and no one wants that

Argument for leave:

Mr Farage, can you give me one good reason to leave the eu?

NF. Absolutely, if we remain then Britain will be bursting at the seams with all kinds of riff raff and we just won't be able to cope

Mr Farage, I specifically asked you for one good reason why Britain should leave?

NF. Well......If we do nothing before you know it, half the population of turkey will be beating a path to these shores

Mr Farage, for the last time, one good reason for Britain to vote OUT?

NF. Look, there's a human chain stretching from Syria to Calais, and they're all heading here, not on my watch.


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This is why a lot of people are fed up imo

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And that's what amazes me. Remain have had ample opportunity to put forward a positive case, and there's an awful lot they could talk about.

But they've focussed solely on the (albeit important and strong) economic argument and then allowed their campaign to be dragged repeatedly back to migration.
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Same goes for leave, focusing on immigration. Talk about everything else it affects ffs

posted on 20/6/16

Kung Fu - No, they were refugees.

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 5 minutes ago
Kung Fu - No, they were refugees.
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I'm happy you finally admitted to your double standards.

White, British families fleeing war = Refugees

Brown people fleeing war = Economic migrants

It's now there for everybody to see.

posted on 20/6/16

Kung Fu - I think you are forgetting the fact I've said more than once today that the Syrians began as refugees fleeg Syria but became economic migrants once they left safe countries through choice in order to reach more affluent countries.

As I said King Fu, you are over sensitive when it comes to anything Islamic. You appear very blinkered in what you chose to see / not to see.

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kung Fu - I think you are forgetting the fact I've said more than once today that the Syrians began as refugees fleeg Syria but became economic migrants once they left safe countries through choice in order to reach more affluent countries.

As I said King Fu, you are over sensitive when it comes to anything Islamic. You appear very blinkered in what you chose to see / not to see.
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No I'm not blinkered when it comes to things Islamic, I correct peoples assumptions about Islam.

Furthermore this has got nothing to do with Islam, the fact you have mentioned Islam says a lot more about you.

These refugees are a combination of Muslims and Christians.

Using this logic....

"I think you are forgetting the fact I've said more than once today that the Syrians began as refugees fleeg Syria but became economic migrants once they left safe countries through choice in order to reach more affluent countries."

It's only reasonable to come to the conclusion that Brits fleeing England during WW2 were also migrants because they could have stopped off in Iceland or Ireland which remained neutral.

Why didn't they stop off in these safe countries rdd, if they were only refugees?

posted on 20/6/16

Kung Fu - right so when it suits you Syrians are Muslims and I'm ant Islam but when it doesn't they are Christians. I see. You are all over the place like Mud with his I was being funny / I wasn't being funny nonsense

As I have already said, Canada and Australian were part of the Commonwealth Union which is why the evacuees went there.

Stop Looking for something that isn't there mate.

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 3 minutes ago
Kung Fu - right so when it suits you Syrians are Muslims and I'm ant Islam but when it doesn't they are Christians. I see. You are all over the place like Mud with his I was being funny / I wasn't being funny nonsense

As I have already said, Canada and Australian were part of the Commonwealth Union which is why the evacuees went there.

Stop Looking for something that isn't there mate.
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I never said that Syrians weren't Christians, anybody with a small amount of knowledge knows that the middle east has religious minorities all of the place.

"As I have already said, Canada and Australian were part of the Commonwealth Union which is why the evacuees went there."

This means absolutely nothing, the commonwealth means nothing. It's just an organisation. They were there own countries and Iceland and Ireland were safe areas Brits could have gone.

They chose to go further, you can't escape the fact that using your logic, they were migrants not refugees.

You have become tangled in your own hypocrisy.

posted on 20/6/16

Kung Fu - I don't care what you call those that evacuated to Canada and Australia. They went there because those countries were part of a group of countries that shared a monarch and were places of safety.

Ultimately the Syrians were refugees and but became Econmic migrants when they chose to move on to more affluent countries.

Why this fact upsets you so much I Have no idea.

posted on 20/6/16

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/economic-migrant

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/refugee

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/evacuee

Note the different mate

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 3 minutes ago
Kung Fu - I don't care what you call those that evacuated to Canada and Australia. They went there because those countries were part of a group of countries that shared a monarch and were places of safety.

Ultimately the Syrians were refugees and but became Econmic migrants when they chose to move on to more affluent countries.

Why this fact upsets you so much I Have no idea.
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It doesn't upset because it's not a fact. It's just a bigots opinion which isn't shared by many at all.

You keep on trying to escape the FACT that Brits did exactly the same thing as Syrians are doing now by talking about the commonwealth.

Is the bond we have as human beings not a more significant one then the bond countries share because of a Monarch?

Canada became independent and self governing in 1867 which means Canadian citizens paid for British refugees (using your logic "migrants" to settle in Canada.

This is fun rdd, carry on digging a bigger hole.

You never answer this question as well..... Do you think Farage will make a good leader?

posted on 20/6/16

comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 5 minutes ago
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/economic-migrant

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/refugee

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/evacuee

Note the different mate


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hahaha ahhh yes Brits were evacuees not refugees, just like it's impossible for a Brit to be an immigrant, they are instead call "ex pats"

Brilliant!

The Syrians moved from Eastern Europe to a more tolerant countries, it's very simple.

Why would they leave the homes they own in the country they love to live in a country that doesn't welcome them?

posted on 20/6/16

Cameron and Osborne are really annoying, they have similarly enjoying traits, so its hard to believe anything they say. In fact, watching all the scare mongering from the remain campaign, listening to Juncker, French finance minister and all the other tw@ts trying to scare voters into remaining has really pushed me to vote leave.

However after ignoring the TV pantomime and speaking to lots of people from all walks of life, I've decided to vote remain. Aside from thinking about Britain, I'm also considering the impact of an already shaky Europe. Us leaving may create more instability for other EU members and the last thing we want is unstable, economically screwed neighbours. All conjecture of course, but thats a concern, along with all the others.

I do feel guilty for voting remain, regarding sovereignty, democracy, immigration, but all things considered, I think remaining makes sense.

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