Not just at the industry level, less disposable income and a decline in the housing market will both stop people spending.
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I feel the main problem with the remain campaign was that for many the current situation was not acceptable. With the option of change something will change. Whether this works out for those that voted leave remains unsure at this juncture.
I don't think this is the end of Britain as a major economy, but that doesn't necessarily mean I believe it won't be rocky. Some will win some will lose, as always in society.
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The public were right to be upset and angry with the policies that are increasing the gap between rich and poor and essentially ruining this country.
However all they managed to achieve with the Brexit vote was give more power to the people causing these problems.
However all they managed to achieve with the Brexit vote was give more power to the people causing these problems
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That's not an achievement of the leave voters.
Getting people to vote leave was an achievement of the leaders of the leave campaign.
They managed to delude so many to entrust power in fewer hands with the mirage of sovereignty.
Just
Really.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
However all they managed to achieve with the Brexit vote was give more power to the people causing these problems
------------
That's not an achievement of the leave voters.
Getting people to vote leave was an achievement of the leaders of the leave campaign.
They managed to delude so many to entrust power in fewer hands with the mirage of sovereignty.
Just
Really.
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Yeah that's what I'm saying.
It was a huge con and was frankly moronic. Being conned by people like Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and the Sun newspaper shouldn't excuse leave voters, they frankly deserve to be screwed over.
What scares me even more is that this same voting majority will keep being conned, they'll keep voting against their own interests and give even more power to the people who are destroying this country for a quick payoff. They deserve it for their stupidity but they're dragging down the rest of country with them and that's a real shame.
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
23% of brexiteers interviewed believe foreigners should be repatriated and Brits made to move back from abroad forcibly. ICM poll
All brexiteers are certainly not racist or xenophobic, but all racists and xenophobes voted brexit
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Do we have a link for this?
I mean, that is near on 4m people.
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
23% of brexiteers interviewed believe foreigners should be repatriated and Brits made to move back from abroad forcibly. ICM poll
All brexiteers are certainly not racist or xenophobic, but all racists and xenophobes voted brexit
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Do we have a link for this?
I mean, that is near on 4m people.
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I expect the truth is more likely to be that four people were interviewed, and one of them at BNP's HQ.....
Some hugely sweeping statements there.
The Independent states that four in ten voters want a second referendum after negotiations have been completed, and if the vote is against then we stay in the EU.
So 40% is actually less than voted to stay in, yet it's their leading story, and they've written it as if it's a landslide victory for remain.
Large aspects of Remain are clearly going to stop at nothing to get the result reversed. That will be the end of this country. Instead of merely shocking the rest of the world, they'll all be laughing at us.
Has a vote ever been reversed before?
It's a joke if it is recounted. And I'd say that whichever way the cookie crumbled.
As Mane said, we would truly be a joke if we recount.
The decision's been made. We'll adapt and move on.
Wgaf if the rest of the world laughs? There are far more important things I'm life
The world probably finds it more funny that a voting majority in the UK was completely conned by people so ashamed at what they've done to the country they've already done a political runner.
It's not because of the rest of the world are laughing, it's the reason they're laughing is what would rile me
comment by Ross Turnbull has a Champions League medal (U3522)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wgaf if the rest of the world laughs? There are far more important things I'm life
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I didn't necessarily mean it in the literal sense. More a case of being a proverbial laughing stock and losing what little credibility we currently have. The EU would walk all over us.
It's not the actual vote that has made us look bad as a country IMO, it's the aftermath. The squabbling and infighting has been pretty pathetic, just when the country needed to unite.
£8.5bn
UK taxpayers’ net contribution to EU budget in 2015
£10.8bn
UK taxpayers’ loss on RBS and Lloyds shares since Brexit vote
That will level out though Melton will it not?
Genuine question, I am far from a politics expert.
Shares fluctuate constantly. Plus, it's slightly disingenuous to publish falling stock prices as a loss unless stockholders have been selling for less than they paid in. Anything less is not actually a loss.
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Can you explain what happens to me, if a bank loses money or makes a massive profit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the bank loses too much money the already struggling general public bail them out, while the richest people in society carry on avoiding tax.
When the bank makes a massive profit the richest people in society get huge untaxed bonuses.
Great sovereign Britain
comment by Science (U19684)
posted 39 minutes ago
The world probably finds it more funny that a voting majority in the UK was completely conned by people so ashamed at what they've done to the country they've already done a political runner.
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Ronnie Campbell - Blyth Valley
John Cryer - Leyton and Wanstead
Frank Field - Birkenhead
Roger Godsiff - Birmingham Hall Green
Kate Hoey - Vauxhall
Kelvin Hopkins - Luton North
John Mann - Bassetlaw
Dennis Skinner - Bolsover
Graham Stringer - Blackley and Broughton
Gisela Stuart - Birmingham Edgbaston
Nigel Adams - Selby and Ainsty
Adam Afriyie - Windsor
Lucy Allan - Telford
David Amess - Southend West
Stuart Andrew - Pudsey
Caroline Ansell - Eastbourne
Richard Bacon - Norfolk South
Steven Baker - Wycombe
Stephen Barclay - North East Cambridgeshire
John Baron - Basildon and Billericay
Henry Bellingham - North West Norfolk
Andrew Bingham - High Peak
Bob Blackman - Harrow East
Crispin Blunt - Reigate
Peter Bone - Wellingborough
Victoria Borwick - Kensington
Graham Brady - Altrincham and Sale West
Julian Brazier - Canterbury
Andrew Bridgen - Leicestershire North West
Fiona Bruce - Congleton
Conor Burns - Bournemouth West
David Burrowes - Enfield, Southgate
Bill Cash - Stone
Maria Caulfield - Lewes
Rehman Chishti - Gillingham and Rainham
Christopher Chope - Christchurch
James Cleverly - Braintree
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown - The Cotswolds
Geoffrey Cox - Devon West and Torridge
Christopher Davies - Brecon and Radnorshire
David Davies - Monmouth
Glyn Davies - Montgomeryshire
James Davies - Vale of Clwyd
Mims Davies - Eastleigh
Philip Davies - Shipley
David Davis - Haltemprice and Howden
Nadine Dorries - Bedfordshire Mid
Steve Double - St Austell and Newquay
Richard Drax - Dorset South
James Duddridge - Rochford and Southend East
Iain Duncan Smith - Chingford and Wood Green
George Eustice - Camborne and Redruth
Nigel Evans - Ribble Valley
Michael Fabricant - Lichfield
Suella Fernandes - Fareham
Dr Liam Fox - Somerset North
Mark Francois - Rayleigh and Wickford
Richard Fuller - Bedford and Kempston
Marcus Fysh - Yeovil
Nusrat Ghani - Wealden
Cheryl Gillan - Chesham and Amersham
Zac Goldsmith - Richmond Park and North Kingston
James Gray - Wiltshire North
Chris Green - Bolton West
Rebecca Harris - Castle Point
John Hayes - South Holland and The Deepings
Chris Heaton-Harris - Daventry
Gordon Henderson - Sittingbourne and Sheppey
Philip Hollobone - Kettering
Adam Holloway - Gravesham
Gerald Howarth - Aldershot
Stewart Jackson - Peterborough
Ranil Jayawardena - Hampshire North East
Bernard Jenkin - Harwich and Essex North
Andrea Jenkyns - Morley and Outwood
Gareth Johnson - Dartford
David Jones - Clwyd West
Daniel Kawczynski - Shrewsbury and Atcham
Greg Knight - Yorkshire East
Kwasi Kwarteng - Spelthorne
Andrea Leadsom - Northamptonshire South
Edward Leigh - Gainsborough
Charlotte Leslie - Bristol NW
Julian Lewis - New Forest East
Peter Lilley - Hitchin and Harpenden
Jack Lopresti- Filton, Bradley and Stoke
Jonathan Lord (Con, Woking
Tim Loughton - Worthing East and Shoreham
Karen Lumley - Redditch
Craig Mackinlay - Thanet South
Anne Main - St Albans
Kit Malthouse - North West Hampshire
Scott Mann - Cornwall North
Paul Maynard - Blackpool North and Cleveleys
Karl McCartney - Lincoln
Jason McCartney - Colne Valley
Stephen McPartland - Stevenage
Stephen Metcalfe - Basildon South and Thurrock East
Nigel Mills - Amber Valley
Penny Mordaunt - Portsmouth North
Anne-Marie Morris - Newton Abbot
Sheryll Murray - Cornwall South East
Andrew Murrison - Wiltshire South West
David Nuttall - Bury North
Matthew Offord - Hendon
Owen Paterson - Shropshire North
Mike Penning - Hemel Hempstead
Andrew Percy - Brigg and Goole
Stephen Phillips - Sleaford and North Hykeham
Christopher Pincher - Tamworth
Tom Pursglove - Corby
Will Quince - Colchester
Dominic Raab - Esher and Walton
John Redwood - Wokingham
Jacob Rees-Mogg - Somerset North East
Laurence Robertson - Tewkesbury
Andrew Rosindell - Romford
Paul Scully - Sutton and Cheam
Henry Smith - Crawley
Royston Smith - Southampton Itchen
Andrew Stephenson - Pendle
Bob Stewart - Beckenham
Iain Stewart - Milton Keynes South
Julian Sturdy - York Outer
Rishi Sunak - Richmond, North Yorkshire
Desmond Swayne - New Forest West
Robert Syms - Poole
Derek Thomas - St Ives
Justin Tomlinson - North Swindon
Michael Tomlinson - Mid Dorset and North Poole
Craig Tracey - Warwickshire North
Anne-Marie Trevelyan - Berwick-upon-Tweed
Andrew Turner - Isle of Wight
Martin Vickers - Cleethorpes
Charles Walker - Broxbourne
David Warburton - Somerton and Frome
James Wharton - Stockton South
Heather Wheeler - Derbyshire South
Bill Wiggin - Herefordshire North
Mike Wood - Dudley South
William Wragg - Hazel Grove
Nadhim Zahawi - Stratford-upon-Avon
Tell me which of those MPs have "ran for the hill"?
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 22 minutes ago
£8.5bn
UK taxpayers’ net contribution to EU budget in 2015
£10.8bn
UK taxpayers’ loss on RBS and Lloyds shares since Brexit vote
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So 16mths after Brexit is the break even point, even if they stay that low?
comment by Science (U19684)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Can you explain what happens to me, if a bank loses money or makes a massive profit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the bank loses too much money the already struggling general public bail them out, while the richest people in society carry on avoiding tax.
When the bank makes a massive profit the richest people in society get huge untaxed bonuses.
Great sovereign Britain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A perfect summary
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 22 minutes ago
£8.5bn
UK taxpayers’ net contribution to EU budget in 2015
£10.8bn
UK taxpayers’ loss on RBS and Lloyds shares since Brexit vote
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So 16mths after Brexit is the break even point, even if they stay that low?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point
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posted on 8/7/16
Not just at the industry level, less disposable income and a decline in the housing market will both stop people spending.
posted on 9/7/16
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 9/7/16
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I feel the main problem with the remain campaign was that for many the current situation was not acceptable. With the option of change something will change. Whether this works out for those that voted leave remains unsure at this juncture.
I don't think this is the end of Britain as a major economy, but that doesn't necessarily mean I believe it won't be rocky. Some will win some will lose, as always in society.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The public were right to be upset and angry with the policies that are increasing the gap between rich and poor and essentially ruining this country.
However all they managed to achieve with the Brexit vote was give more power to the people causing these problems.
posted on 9/7/16
However all they managed to achieve with the Brexit vote was give more power to the people causing these problems
------------
That's not an achievement of the leave voters.
Getting people to vote leave was an achievement of the leaders of the leave campaign.
They managed to delude so many to entrust power in fewer hands with the mirage of sovereignty.
Just
Really.
posted on 9/7/16
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
However all they managed to achieve with the Brexit vote was give more power to the people causing these problems
------------
That's not an achievement of the leave voters.
Getting people to vote leave was an achievement of the leaders of the leave campaign.
They managed to delude so many to entrust power in fewer hands with the mirage of sovereignty.
Just
Really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
It was a huge con and was frankly moronic. Being conned by people like Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and the Sun newspaper shouldn't excuse leave voters, they frankly deserve to be screwed over.
What scares me even more is that this same voting majority will keep being conned, they'll keep voting against their own interests and give even more power to the people who are destroying this country for a quick payoff. They deserve it for their stupidity but they're dragging down the rest of country with them and that's a real shame.
posted on 9/7/16
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
23% of brexiteers interviewed believe foreigners should be repatriated and Brits made to move back from abroad forcibly. ICM poll
All brexiteers are certainly not racist or xenophobic, but all racists and xenophobes voted brexit
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do we have a link for this?
I mean, that is near on 4m people.
posted on 9/7/16
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
23% of brexiteers interviewed believe foreigners should be repatriated and Brits made to move back from abroad forcibly. ICM poll
All brexiteers are certainly not racist or xenophobic, but all racists and xenophobes voted brexit
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do we have a link for this?
I mean, that is near on 4m people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I expect the truth is more likely to be that four people were interviewed, and one of them at BNP's HQ.....
posted on 9/7/16
Some hugely sweeping statements there.
posted on 9/7/16
The Independent states that four in ten voters want a second referendum after negotiations have been completed, and if the vote is against then we stay in the EU.
So 40% is actually less than voted to stay in, yet it's their leading story, and they've written it as if it's a landslide victory for remain.
Large aspects of Remain are clearly going to stop at nothing to get the result reversed. That will be the end of this country. Instead of merely shocking the rest of the world, they'll all be laughing at us.
posted on 9/7/16
Has a vote ever been reversed before?
It's a joke if it is recounted. And I'd say that whichever way the cookie crumbled.
As Mane said, we would truly be a joke if we recount.
The decision's been made. We'll adapt and move on.
posted on 9/7/16
Wgaf if the rest of the world laughs? There are far more important things I'm life
posted on 9/7/16
The world probably finds it more funny that a voting majority in the UK was completely conned by people so ashamed at what they've done to the country they've already done a political runner.
posted on 9/7/16
It's not because of the rest of the world are laughing, it's the reason they're laughing is what would rile me
posted on 9/7/16
comment by Ross Turnbull has a Champions League medal (U3522)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wgaf if the rest of the world laughs? There are far more important things I'm life
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn't necessarily mean it in the literal sense. More a case of being a proverbial laughing stock and losing what little credibility we currently have. The EU would walk all over us.
It's not the actual vote that has made us look bad as a country IMO, it's the aftermath. The squabbling and infighting has been pretty pathetic, just when the country needed to unite.
posted on 9/7/16
Yes Mane
posted on 9/7/16
£8.5bn
UK taxpayers’ net contribution to EU budget in 2015
£10.8bn
UK taxpayers’ loss on RBS and Lloyds shares since Brexit vote
posted on 9/7/16
That will level out though Melton will it not?
Genuine question, I am far from a politics expert.
posted on 9/7/16
Shares fluctuate constantly. Plus, it's slightly disingenuous to publish falling stock prices as a loss unless stockholders have been selling for less than they paid in. Anything less is not actually a loss.
posted on 9/7/16
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 9/7/16
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Can you explain what happens to me, if a bank loses money or makes a massive profit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the bank loses too much money the already struggling general public bail them out, while the richest people in society carry on avoiding tax.
When the bank makes a massive profit the richest people in society get huge untaxed bonuses.
Great sovereign Britain
posted on 9/7/16
That's pretty much it
posted on 9/7/16
comment by Science (U19684)
posted 39 minutes ago
The world probably finds it more funny that a voting majority in the UK was completely conned by people so ashamed at what they've done to the country they've already done a political runner.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ronnie Campbell - Blyth Valley
John Cryer - Leyton and Wanstead
Frank Field - Birkenhead
Roger Godsiff - Birmingham Hall Green
Kate Hoey - Vauxhall
Kelvin Hopkins - Luton North
John Mann - Bassetlaw
Dennis Skinner - Bolsover
Graham Stringer - Blackley and Broughton
Gisela Stuart - Birmingham Edgbaston
Nigel Adams - Selby and Ainsty
Adam Afriyie - Windsor
Lucy Allan - Telford
David Amess - Southend West
Stuart Andrew - Pudsey
Caroline Ansell - Eastbourne
Richard Bacon - Norfolk South
Steven Baker - Wycombe
Stephen Barclay - North East Cambridgeshire
John Baron - Basildon and Billericay
Henry Bellingham - North West Norfolk
Andrew Bingham - High Peak
Bob Blackman - Harrow East
Crispin Blunt - Reigate
Peter Bone - Wellingborough
Victoria Borwick - Kensington
Graham Brady - Altrincham and Sale West
Julian Brazier - Canterbury
Andrew Bridgen - Leicestershire North West
Fiona Bruce - Congleton
Conor Burns - Bournemouth West
David Burrowes - Enfield, Southgate
Bill Cash - Stone
Maria Caulfield - Lewes
Rehman Chishti - Gillingham and Rainham
Christopher Chope - Christchurch
James Cleverly - Braintree
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown - The Cotswolds
Geoffrey Cox - Devon West and Torridge
Christopher Davies - Brecon and Radnorshire
David Davies - Monmouth
Glyn Davies - Montgomeryshire
James Davies - Vale of Clwyd
Mims Davies - Eastleigh
Philip Davies - Shipley
David Davis - Haltemprice and Howden
Nadine Dorries - Bedfordshire Mid
Steve Double - St Austell and Newquay
Richard Drax - Dorset South
James Duddridge - Rochford and Southend East
Iain Duncan Smith - Chingford and Wood Green
George Eustice - Camborne and Redruth
Nigel Evans - Ribble Valley
Michael Fabricant - Lichfield
Suella Fernandes - Fareham
Dr Liam Fox - Somerset North
Mark Francois - Rayleigh and Wickford
Richard Fuller - Bedford and Kempston
Marcus Fysh - Yeovil
Nusrat Ghani - Wealden
Cheryl Gillan - Chesham and Amersham
Zac Goldsmith - Richmond Park and North Kingston
James Gray - Wiltshire North
Chris Green - Bolton West
Rebecca Harris - Castle Point
John Hayes - South Holland and The Deepings
Chris Heaton-Harris - Daventry
Gordon Henderson - Sittingbourne and Sheppey
Philip Hollobone - Kettering
Adam Holloway - Gravesham
Gerald Howarth - Aldershot
Stewart Jackson - Peterborough
Ranil Jayawardena - Hampshire North East
Bernard Jenkin - Harwich and Essex North
Andrea Jenkyns - Morley and Outwood
Gareth Johnson - Dartford
David Jones - Clwyd West
Daniel Kawczynski - Shrewsbury and Atcham
Greg Knight - Yorkshire East
Kwasi Kwarteng - Spelthorne
Andrea Leadsom - Northamptonshire South
Edward Leigh - Gainsborough
Charlotte Leslie - Bristol NW
Julian Lewis - New Forest East
Peter Lilley - Hitchin and Harpenden
Jack Lopresti- Filton, Bradley and Stoke
Jonathan Lord (Con, Woking
Tim Loughton - Worthing East and Shoreham
Karen Lumley - Redditch
Craig Mackinlay - Thanet South
Anne Main - St Albans
Kit Malthouse - North West Hampshire
Scott Mann - Cornwall North
Paul Maynard - Blackpool North and Cleveleys
Karl McCartney - Lincoln
Jason McCartney - Colne Valley
Stephen McPartland - Stevenage
Stephen Metcalfe - Basildon South and Thurrock East
Nigel Mills - Amber Valley
Penny Mordaunt - Portsmouth North
Anne-Marie Morris - Newton Abbot
Sheryll Murray - Cornwall South East
Andrew Murrison - Wiltshire South West
David Nuttall - Bury North
Matthew Offord - Hendon
Owen Paterson - Shropshire North
Mike Penning - Hemel Hempstead
Andrew Percy - Brigg and Goole
Stephen Phillips - Sleaford and North Hykeham
Christopher Pincher - Tamworth
Tom Pursglove - Corby
Will Quince - Colchester
Dominic Raab - Esher and Walton
John Redwood - Wokingham
Jacob Rees-Mogg - Somerset North East
Laurence Robertson - Tewkesbury
Andrew Rosindell - Romford
Paul Scully - Sutton and Cheam
Henry Smith - Crawley
Royston Smith - Southampton Itchen
Andrew Stephenson - Pendle
Bob Stewart - Beckenham
Iain Stewart - Milton Keynes South
Julian Sturdy - York Outer
Rishi Sunak - Richmond, North Yorkshire
Desmond Swayne - New Forest West
Robert Syms - Poole
Derek Thomas - St Ives
Justin Tomlinson - North Swindon
Michael Tomlinson - Mid Dorset and North Poole
Craig Tracey - Warwickshire North
Anne-Marie Trevelyan - Berwick-upon-Tweed
Andrew Turner - Isle of Wight
Martin Vickers - Cleethorpes
Charles Walker - Broxbourne
David Warburton - Somerton and Frome
James Wharton - Stockton South
Heather Wheeler - Derbyshire South
Bill Wiggin - Herefordshire North
Mike Wood - Dudley South
William Wragg - Hazel Grove
Nadhim Zahawi - Stratford-upon-Avon
Tell me which of those MPs have "ran for the hill"?
posted on 9/7/16
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 22 minutes ago
£8.5bn
UK taxpayers’ net contribution to EU budget in 2015
£10.8bn
UK taxpayers’ loss on RBS and Lloyds shares since Brexit vote
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So 16mths after Brexit is the break even point, even if they stay that low?
posted on 9/7/16
comment by Science (U19684)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Can you explain what happens to me, if a bank loses money or makes a massive profit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the bank loses too much money the already struggling general public bail them out, while the richest people in society carry on avoiding tax.
When the bank makes a massive profit the richest people in society get huge untaxed bonuses.
Great sovereign Britain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A perfect summary
posted on 9/7/16
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 22 minutes ago
£8.5bn
UK taxpayers’ net contribution to EU budget in 2015
£10.8bn
UK taxpayers’ loss on RBS and Lloyds shares since Brexit vote
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So 16mths after Brexit is the break even point, even if they stay that low?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point
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