if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
As they don't, shows they've been making mugs of the disaffected voters and taking support funds for years.
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
As they don't, shows they've been making mugs of the disaffected voters and taking support funds for years.
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Theresa May is the Tory Prime Minister.
UKIP have one MP.
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
The Houses of P are on recess until the end of next week too , have been since July.
UKIP is a single issue party.
To reiterate - if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
Despite them having only one MP, they only had one issue for all their staff, leadership and campaigners to work on.
Surely they could send a copy of their brilliant Brexit plan(s) to help along the process of Brexit? It is in their avowed party interest after all.
What have they been doing for all this time with all the campaign funds they've taken off their supporters?
UKIP seem to be like the Gillet and Hicks of politics!
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 45 minutes ago
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
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Kindly sod off if you don't want to read any more then. No ones forcing you to.
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 5 minutes ago
UKIP is a single issue party.
To reiterate - if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
Despite them having only one MP, they only had one issue for all their staff, leadership and campaigners to work on.
Surely they could send a copy of their brilliant Brexit plan(s) to help along the process of Brexit? It is in their avowed party interest after all.
What have they been doing for all this time with all the campaign funds they've taken off their supporters?
UKIP seem to be like the Gillet and Hicks of politics!
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How do you know they havent? I am sure they would love to take charge of Brexit.
Unfortunately for them they are not the government.
The government decides policy, and that is Theresa May, and her cabinet. She is obviously getting all her ducks in a row before she starts the countdown, as any sensible person would.
Obviously you would like it rushed, as it would have more chance of being a huge failure.
How do you know they havent? I am sure they would love to take charge of Brexit.
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Like they'd not have declared if they've put a cohesive and effective plan they've been working on for years forward to the government.
Just a bunch of chancers with no clue..
Just like Gillet and Hicks.
No I wouldn't like it rushed... just postponed and postponed again.
Going on that tangent at the moment.
Enactment of Article 50 had been given a vague timetable of after 2017..
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 45 minutes ago
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
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Kindly sod off if you don't want to read any more then. No ones forcing you to.
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I'd happily forgotten all about it. Now it keeps coming up on my timeline, and it's all your fault
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
As they don't, shows they've been making mugs of the disaffected voters and taking support funds for years.
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Theresa May is the Tory Prime Minister.
UKIP have one MP.
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
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FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
They are actually World Cup qualifiers
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
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Who said they should lead them? Them being a single issue party campaigning on the UK leaving the EU for years should have some idea how to do it.
It doesn't matter for them who actually leads the UK out - they've got their way.
So, if they could share their insight from their many years of campaigning and knowing exactly how the UK will be better off out of the EU and how to do it, they'll be doing all their supporters a favour and vindication for their campaign.
Don't tell me they don't have a clue!
So anyone with a strong view for a period of time should be involved?
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted about 6 hours ago
FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
They are actually World Cup qualifiers
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No, they can't be. One thing I know is that Red will have meticulously done his research before posting. So he can't possibly be wrong
Merv Kings view on how it's going. He doesn't think the end is nigh........
Britain can be more successful outside of the European Union, a former governor of the Bank of England has said.
Lord King of Lothbury also suggested a future decline in UK productivity could be a result of the Remain camp exaggerating the repercussions of the Brexit vote.
He maintained "we don't really know" how our economy will fare outside of the EU and that any predictions "were highly speculative".
"We are now in a better position to rebalance the UK economy," Lord King told Central Banking magazine.
"An unfortunate aspect of the campaign was the government forecasts of what the consequences of Brexit might be, which inevitably were highly speculative, in particular for the long run.
"The problem is that the long-run judgment then feeds back to the short-run forecast because it was assumed that people would anticipate the long-run. The only honest answer about the long-run consequences is we don't really know."
Lord King, who was governor of the Bank of England between 2010 and 2013, criticised the government's decision to align its campaign strategy with Treasury forecasts that showed the UK would drop into recession in the event of a Brexit vote.
The Treasury predicted the economy would shrink by 6.2 per cent by 2030.
Since the Brexit vote, research has shown that both the automobile and retail industries are booming. UK consumer confidence increased to its highest level in three years this August.
"The mistake was to portray these extreme outcomes in the future as almost inevitable rather than what they were, which were highly speculative forecasts," Lord King maintained.
While Lord King's interview took place before the Bank of England's decision to cut interest rates by 0.25 per cent, he predicted any attempt to do so would be unwise.
"The UK economy has to be rebalanced one way or another, remain or leave. We need a level of the exchange rate much closer to the level we had in the middle of 2013," he said.
Lord King also suggested the bank should not resort to quantitative easing because the central banks "are approaching the limits" of what they can do.
"I'm not sure that much more easing will achieve very much. It might achieve a little but it simply is not going to provide the ultimate solution," he said.
Since leaving the Bank of England, Lord King joined Citigroup Inc as a senior adviser.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
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Who said they should lead them? Them being a single issue party campaigning on the UK leaving the EU for years should have some idea how to do it.
It doesn't matter for them who actually leads the UK out - they've got their way.
So, if they could share their insight from their many years of campaigning and knowing exactly how the UK will be better off out of the EU and how to do it, they'll be doing all their supporters a favour and vindication for their campaign.
Don't tell me they don't have a clue!
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I imagine they would push to leave the EU in its entirety, triggered article 50 on the day after the referendum and basically let the dice roll.
Is that what you would prefer to the measured approach? You are rambling, fella. You would be whingeing something chronic if UKIP were spearheading it, and you know it
Personally, I have no problem having another referendum at a later date. An AV vote with 3 choices - stay, take the deal, leave entirely.
Article 50 can be invoked, then we can withdraw it apparently
Article 50 can be invoked, then we can withdraw it apparently
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Wrong, once article 50 has been triggered it cannot be withdrawn, however there are those within the Government who who like to take any option rather than to follow the democratic vote
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 16 minutes ago
Article 50 can be invoked, then we can withdraw it apparently
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Wrong, once article 50 has been triggered it cannot be withdrawn, however there are those within the Government who who like to take any option rather than to follow the democratic vote
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Read this....
http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-how-does-article-50-work-2016-7
As long as no deal on Brexit is agreed we can reverse it.
I imagine that could be put to a referendum to "agree" it
Lets not forget there are no hard and fast rules with the EU, the countries that joined the Euro are testament to that
End of the day, the EU will have to make an example out of the UK to show other nations how damaging it will be to leave.
A few comments by the Swedes and Germans this week, make that abundantly clear.
Like I said earlier, the UK is lucky I'm not one of the EU negotiators.
I would royally feck the UK over that the impact to the country will be felt for at least 3 generations
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
End of the day, the EU will have to make an example out of the UK to show other nations how damaging it will be to leave.
A few comments by the Swedes and Germans this week, make that abundantly clear.
Like I said earlier, the UK is lucky I'm not one of the EU negotiators.
I would royally feck the UK over that the impact to the country will be felt for at least 3 generations
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Then you'd be completely useless with that attitude, completely detached from the reality of the situation.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 45 minutes ago
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
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Kindly sod off if you don't want to read any more then. No ones forcing you to.
FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
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I'd happily forgotten all about it. Now it keeps coming up on my timeline, and it's all your fault
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My sentiments exactly.
Whilst the Government seems to be scratching its head having being left no clear strategy by the irresponsible Brexit politician companies like mine have our strategy and are quietly implementing it, it involves changing our name and re registering our company in France. It will mean a small loss to the UK economy but I guess we are not the only ones...
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
End of the day, the EU will have to make an example out of the UK to show other nations how damaging it will be to leave.
A few comments by the Swedes and Germans this week, make that abundantly clear.
Like I said earlier, the UK is lucky I'm not one of the EU negotiators.
I would royally feck the UK over that the impact to the country will be felt for at least 3 generations
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Then you'd be completely useless with that attitude, completely detached from the reality of the situation.
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Nah, completely in tune with the reality of the situation. The mugs that voted for Brexit who thought they will keep all the benefits after spitting in Europe's face are the ones detached from reality and are completely deluded
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posted on 29/8/16
if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
As they don't, shows they've been making mugs of the disaffected voters and taking support funds for years.
posted on 29/8/16
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
posted on 29/8/16
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
As they don't, shows they've been making mugs of the disaffected voters and taking support funds for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Theresa May is the Tory Prime Minister.
UKIP have one MP.
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
posted on 29/8/16
The Houses of P are on recess until the end of next week too , have been since July.
posted on 29/8/16
UKIP is a single issue party.
To reiterate - if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
Despite them having only one MP, they only had one issue for all their staff, leadership and campaigners to work on.
Surely they could send a copy of their brilliant Brexit plan(s) to help along the process of Brexit? It is in their avowed party interest after all.
What have they been doing for all this time with all the campaign funds they've taken off their supporters?
UKIP seem to be like the Gillet and Hicks of politics!
posted on 29/8/16
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 45 minutes ago
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
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Kindly sod off if you don't want to read any more then. No ones forcing you to.
FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
posted on 29/8/16
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 5 minutes ago
UKIP is a single issue party.
To reiterate - if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
Despite them having only one MP, they only had one issue for all their staff, leadership and campaigners to work on.
Surely they could send a copy of their brilliant Brexit plan(s) to help along the process of Brexit? It is in their avowed party interest after all.
What have they been doing for all this time with all the campaign funds they've taken off their supporters?
UKIP seem to be like the Gillet and Hicks of politics!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How do you know they havent? I am sure they would love to take charge of Brexit.
Unfortunately for them they are not the government.
The government decides policy, and that is Theresa May, and her cabinet. She is obviously getting all her ducks in a row before she starts the countdown, as any sensible person would.
Obviously you would like it rushed, as it would have more chance of being a huge failure.
posted on 29/8/16
How do you know they havent? I am sure they would love to take charge of Brexit.
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Like they'd not have declared if they've put a cohesive and effective plan they've been working on for years forward to the government.
Just a bunch of chancers with no clue..
Just like Gillet and Hicks.
posted on 29/8/16
No I wouldn't like it rushed... just postponed and postponed again.
Going on that tangent at the moment.
Enactment of Article 50 had been given a vague timetable of after 2017..
posted on 29/8/16
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 45 minutes ago
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
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Kindly sod off if you don't want to read any more then. No ones forcing you to.
FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
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I'd happily forgotten all about it. Now it keeps coming up on my timeline, and it's all your fault
posted on 29/8/16
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
if they're such experts and know the ins and outs of Europe and exactly how we could be better out of it, especially single issue party's like UKIP. they would already know how to do this within the article 50 time limit of 2 years.
As they don't, shows they've been making mugs of the disaffected voters and taking support funds for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Theresa May is the Tory Prime Minister.
UKIP have one MP.
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 29/8/16
FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
They are actually World Cup qualifiers
posted on 29/8/16
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
-------
Who said they should lead them? Them being a single issue party campaigning on the UK leaving the EU for years should have some idea how to do it.
It doesn't matter for them who actually leads the UK out - they've got their way.
So, if they could share their insight from their many years of campaigning and knowing exactly how the UK will be better off out of the EU and how to do it, they'll be doing all their supporters a favour and vindication for their campaign.
Don't tell me they don't have a clue!
posted on 30/8/16
So anyone with a strong view for a period of time should be involved?
posted on 30/8/16
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted about 6 hours ago
FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
They are actually World Cup qualifiers
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No, they can't be. One thing I know is that Red will have meticulously done his research before posting. So he can't possibly be wrong
posted on 30/8/16
Merv Kings view on how it's going. He doesn't think the end is nigh........
Britain can be more successful outside of the European Union, a former governor of the Bank of England has said.
Lord King of Lothbury also suggested a future decline in UK productivity could be a result of the Remain camp exaggerating the repercussions of the Brexit vote.
He maintained "we don't really know" how our economy will fare outside of the EU and that any predictions "were highly speculative".
"We are now in a better position to rebalance the UK economy," Lord King told Central Banking magazine.
"An unfortunate aspect of the campaign was the government forecasts of what the consequences of Brexit might be, which inevitably were highly speculative, in particular for the long run.
"The problem is that the long-run judgment then feeds back to the short-run forecast because it was assumed that people would anticipate the long-run. The only honest answer about the long-run consequences is we don't really know."
Lord King, who was governor of the Bank of England between 2010 and 2013, criticised the government's decision to align its campaign strategy with Treasury forecasts that showed the UK would drop into recession in the event of a Brexit vote.
The Treasury predicted the economy would shrink by 6.2 per cent by 2030.
Since the Brexit vote, research has shown that both the automobile and retail industries are booming. UK consumer confidence increased to its highest level in three years this August.
"The mistake was to portray these extreme outcomes in the future as almost inevitable rather than what they were, which were highly speculative forecasts," Lord King maintained.
While Lord King's interview took place before the Bank of England's decision to cut interest rates by 0.25 per cent, he predicted any attempt to do so would be unwise.
"The UK economy has to be rebalanced one way or another, remain or leave. We need a level of the exchange rate much closer to the level we had in the middle of 2013," he said.
Lord King also suggested the bank should not resort to quantitative easing because the central banks "are approaching the limits" of what they can do.
"I'm not sure that much more easing will achieve very much. It might achieve a little but it simply is not going to provide the ultimate solution," he said.
Since leaving the Bank of England, Lord King joined Citigroup Inc as a senior adviser.
posted on 30/8/16
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
Why would UKIP have anything to do with negotiations, let alone lead them?
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Who said they should lead them? Them being a single issue party campaigning on the UK leaving the EU for years should have some idea how to do it.
It doesn't matter for them who actually leads the UK out - they've got their way.
So, if they could share their insight from their many years of campaigning and knowing exactly how the UK will be better off out of the EU and how to do it, they'll be doing all their supporters a favour and vindication for their campaign.
Don't tell me they don't have a clue!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I imagine they would push to leave the EU in its entirety, triggered article 50 on the day after the referendum and basically let the dice roll.
Is that what you would prefer to the measured approach? You are rambling, fella. You would be whingeing something chronic if UKIP were spearheading it, and you know it
Personally, I have no problem having another referendum at a later date. An AV vote with 3 choices - stay, take the deal, leave entirely.
Article 50 can be invoked, then we can withdraw it apparently
posted on 30/8/16
Article 50 can be invoked, then we can withdraw it apparently
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Wrong, once article 50 has been triggered it cannot be withdrawn, however there are those within the Government who who like to take any option rather than to follow the democratic vote
posted on 30/8/16
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 16 minutes ago
Article 50 can be invoked, then we can withdraw it apparently
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Wrong, once article 50 has been triggered it cannot be withdrawn, however there are those within the Government who who like to take any option rather than to follow the democratic vote
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Read this....
http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-how-does-article-50-work-2016-7
As long as no deal on Brexit is agreed we can reverse it.
I imagine that could be put to a referendum to "agree" it
posted on 30/8/16
Lets not forget there are no hard and fast rules with the EU, the countries that joined the Euro are testament to that
posted on 30/8/16
End of the day, the EU will have to make an example out of the UK to show other nations how damaging it will be to leave.
A few comments by the Swedes and Germans this week, make that abundantly clear.
Like I said earlier, the UK is lucky I'm not one of the EU negotiators.
I would royally feck the UK over that the impact to the country will be felt for at least 3 generations
posted on 30/8/16
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
End of the day, the EU will have to make an example out of the UK to show other nations how damaging it will be to leave.
A few comments by the Swedes and Germans this week, make that abundantly clear.
Like I said earlier, the UK is lucky I'm not one of the EU negotiators.
I would royally feck the UK over that the impact to the country will be felt for at least 3 generations
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Then you'd be completely useless with that attitude, completely detached from the reality of the situation.
posted on 30/8/16
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 45 minutes ago
Can't believe you started this again. You need to get a life Red.
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Kindly sod off if you don't want to read any more then. No ones forcing you to.
FA schedule international friendlies that no ones gives a toss about
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I'd happily forgotten all about it. Now it keeps coming up on my timeline, and it's all your fault
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My sentiments exactly.
posted on 30/8/16
Whilst the Government seems to be scratching its head having being left no clear strategy by the irresponsible Brexit politician companies like mine have our strategy and are quietly implementing it, it involves changing our name and re registering our company in France. It will mean a small loss to the UK economy but I guess we are not the only ones...
posted on 30/8/16
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
End of the day, the EU will have to make an example out of the UK to show other nations how damaging it will be to leave.
A few comments by the Swedes and Germans this week, make that abundantly clear.
Like I said earlier, the UK is lucky I'm not one of the EU negotiators.
I would royally feck the UK over that the impact to the country will be felt for at least 3 generations
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Then you'd be completely useless with that attitude, completely detached from the reality of the situation.
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Nah, completely in tune with the reality of the situation. The mugs that voted for Brexit who thought they will keep all the benefits after spitting in Europe's face are the ones detached from reality and are completely deluded
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