comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 9 minutes ago
Put this article alongside A-Rabs one about how hilarious he thought ambushing a police officer and shooting him dead was.
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Nah.....false equivalence. Absurdly poor comparison.
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One finds a person getting shot funny.
The other finds a person getting shot funny.

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I'm struggling to see the similarity

There is. Its called Fox News.

Is it called White entertainment Channel or is it called Fox News, which incidentally has had, for the last twelve years at least, two black morning news presenters for the region I live in.

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 3 minutes ago
thebluebellsareblue (U9292)

Have you ever thought why these guys are in gangs and commit crime? or you going to tell me they are born criminals? the oppression black people have had to endure in the US has led to this. You can't deny history and it is still visible today and the scars of yesterday are still valid and present. The structures and systems are still prejudiced towards black people, thus making it harder to get out of poverty and the cycle continues.
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Read my post and don't put words or views on me.

Debate calmly, and rationally.....I am nota white cop kkk member, FYI.

My point was, black gangs and crime leads to more confrontation, proprtionally.

Why do cops shoot white people?

"Why do cops shoot white people?"

Practise.

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 3 minutes ago
with regards to black lives matter and such movements, it's understandable why they exist. throughout much of their history in America they have abused, enslaved and taught being black is inferior to being white. The systems even to this day are prejudiced towards them. You cannot be suprised that black movements are growing.
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Not surprised, but black militants armed on the streets will things how?
Those advocating cop murder are just insane, as if that needs to be said.....but it does.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Just so that some of you numbnuts who have no idea about the USA other than what you see in the papers, here is a bit of perspective.

A lot of racism is not caused by white people. There is, for example, a TV channel called BET. This is Black Entertainment Channel.

Imagine what would happen if there was a White Entertainment Channel.
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There is certainly some truth in this.

So called positive discrimination that is certainly quite widespread in places I have worked. This meant that women and minority groups were given preference for jobs and managers were encouraged to make sure they recruited from these groups. In order to recruit white males the managers had to complete 4 pages of justification and be interviewed about it so just recruited women and minorities so tey didnt have to. Careers were literally put on the line just by recruiting the best candidte if it was a white male.

The problem was everyone knew about it. There were dozens of the top performers who left because they were not getting promotions etc because they were whote males. I did as well from one place I worked after missing out on 2 senior roles which were given to women who did not have the knowledge and experience I did in the role and was directly told by the recruiting managers that the person who got the job did so because they were women even though I was the best candidate.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
"Why do cops shoot white people?"

Practise.
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Joking about white deaths at the hands of cops......the new kinder politics, eh.

I await your first islamist joke😉

"Those advocating cop murder are just insane"

Just to clarify, are you talking about cops commiting murder, or being murdered? For the record, I've not seen anyone 'advocating' either on here - was the comment about something somewhere else?

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 seconds ago

There is. Its called Fox News.

Is it called White entertainment Channel or is it called Fox News, which incidentally has had, for the last twelve years at least, two black morning news presenters for the region I live in.
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It was a flippant response. But understand in a country where people are happier describing themselves as Irish American or Italian American, having a channel catering for a predominantly black audience is not something that is so unusual. Ask yourself why there is a demand for it? Is it because the main channels don't satisfy all parts of the American population? Just because its called black entertainment channel means nothing more than a marketing gimmick. Its simplistic gibberish to consider it anything more than that. Segregation in America, especially in the American south, only really came to an end in the 1960s. Not so long ago. So don't expect a homogeneous society to develop with complete equality till all the societal disadvantages African Americans have had over 200 years disappear.

I forgot the point

There was a lot of prejudice towards these groups as a result of the positive discrimination and it did far more harm to equality than benefit it. It created an us and them mentality.

Digby

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36826297

You are right. More white people were shot by police. However when you apply percentage of population you are more likely to be shot by the police if you are black.

The crux of the matter is the perceived attitude by police and how that leads to the recent shootings we've seen. For example the incident in the OP and recent highlighted shootings that led to black lives matter protests. There is the perceived attitude that if you are black you are up to no good. Even if you are a law abiding citizen and unarmed. Black people are statistically more likely to engage in criminal activity and that can't be ignored. However you need to consider the social environment they are brought up in and the lack of comparible opportunities afforded to black people than white people.

You can't dismiss the significantly increased likelihood of being shot by police if you are black.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 6 minutes ago
"Those advocating cop murder are just insane"

Just to clarify, are you talking about cops commiting murder, or being murdered? For the record, I've not seen anyone 'advocating' either on here - was the comment about something somewhere else?
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Not aimed at this forum, but calls to murder cops were made, and thick thugs did so, while others cheeredthem on via social media.

comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 5 minutes ago
I forgot the point

There was a lot of prejudice towards these groups as a result of the positive discrimination and it did far more harm to equality than benefit it. It created an us and them mentality.
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Agreed.


Only gets backs up, . Imo.

You are right. More white people were shot by police. However when you apply percentage of population you are more likely to be shot by the police if you are black.

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I know that's what i said

Just because a population is higher doesn't make their killing any more or less relevant everylife is equal but news often report on only 1 race. This raises tensions and leads to cop killings

catering for a predominantly black audience is not something that is so unusual.

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You can't have it both ways. That is the issue.

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 1 minute ago

You are right. More white people were shot by police. However when you apply percentage of population you are more likely to be shot by the police if you are black.

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I know that's what i said

Just because a population is higher doesn't make their killing any more or less relevant everylife is equal but news often report on only 1 race. This raises tensions and leads to cop killings
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It does make it more relevant. The Black Lives Matter protests haven't been about defending criminals who were shot by police whilst going about their criminal activity. It's come about following the recent spate of black people being shot going about their daily business. The increased likelihood of being shot if you are black is integral as part of the cause of these recent incidents.

Police are approaching black people with the pre conceived idea they are going to shot at. Recent incidents have shown this isn't the case and the police were wrong to have that preconceived idea.

Who cares if a TV company wants to make TV programmes targeted to a particular section of society?

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
catering for a predominantly black audience is not something that is so unusual.

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You can't have it both ways. That is the issue.
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Isn't entertainment always focussed towards a particular demographic?

Why does it matter if there's a to channel aimed at a black audience?

It does make it more relevant. The Black Lives Matter protests haven't been about defending criminals who were shot by police whilst going about their criminal activity. It's come about following the recent spate of black people being shot going about their daily business. The increased likelihood of being shot if you are black is integral as part of the cause of these recent incidents.

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So black lives matter more as their population is less?

Black lives matter is inspired by assata shakur

Who cares if a TV company wants to make TV programmes targeted to a particular section of society?

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No one. But when you call that company Black Entertainment Television it becomes racist.

Black people can not have it both ways.

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comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Who cares if a TV company wants to make TV programmes targeted to a particular section of society?
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Because it raises racial tensions, gives people the idea its purley racism. Which leads to police being killed.

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 1 minute ago
It does make it more relevant. The Black Lives Matter protests haven't been about defending criminals who were shot by police whilst going about their criminal activity. It's come about following the recent spate of black people being shot going about their daily business. The increased likelihood of being shot if you are black is integral as part of the cause of these recent incidents.

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So black lives matter more as their population is less?

Black lives matter is inspired by assata shakur
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No, that's not what I said.

The police approach a black person there is a difference in attitude of what may happen than if they approach a white person.

In the instances of white people being shot by police how many were show whilst unarmed lying on the ground with their hands up, reaching into the glove box of their car during a traffic stop etc etc?

Don't see the problem with black people having their own channel.

Do people have a problem with Irish bars or Chinese restaurants.

As far as I'm aware white people are allowed to watch the channel.

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Who cares if a TV company wants to make TV programmes targeted to a particular section of society?
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Because it raises racial tensions, gives people the idea its purley racism. Which leads to police being killed.
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Are you joking? I just can't tell on here sometimes.