But you seem intent on disagreeing with me when im saying all lives matter...
You don't know as barley any are covered by news networks. Look at Dylan nobles killing the other day. Shot while hiding behind his car door.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 7 minutes ago
Who cares if a TV company wants to make TV programmes targeted to a particular section of society?
.................
No one. But when you call that company Black Entertainment Television it becomes racist.
Black people can not have it both ways.
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Now you must be joking.
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Just so that some of you numbnuts who have no idea about the USA other than what you see in the papers, here is a bit of perspective.
A lot of racism is not caused by white people. There is, for example, a TV channel called BET. This is Black Entertainment Channel.
Imagine what would happen if there was a White Entertainment Channel.
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There is certainly some truth in this.
So called positive discrimination that is certainly quite widespread in places I have worked. This meant that women and minority groups were given preference for jobs and managers were encouraged to make sure they recruited from these groups. In order to recruit white males the managers had to complete 4 pages of justification and be interviewed about it so just recruited women and minorities so tey didnt have to. Careers were literally put on the line just by recruiting the best candidte if it was a white male.
The problem was everyone knew about it. There were dozens of the top performers who left because they were not getting promotions etc because they were whote males. I did as well from one place I worked after missing out on 2 senior roles which were given to women who did not have the knowledge and experience I did in the role and was directly told by the recruiting managers that the person who got the job did so because they were women even though I was the best candidate.
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What you describe is discrimination.
Positive discrimination is about giving under represented groups opportunity to interview for positions if they meet the minimum criteria.
Then it's on individual performance.
I'm sorry mate but you didn't get the jobs because It was decided that you weren't the best person for it. You were told what you wanted to hear or you made it up.
D
comment by Paul Robbga (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't see the problem with black people having their own channel.
Do people have a problem with Irish bars or Chinese restaurants.
As far as I'm aware white people are allowed to watch the channel.
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Exactly. The protests here are just laughable. It's the sort of thinking that led to a Blackboard becoming a Chalkboard.
It was about the news not reporting events not entire channels, its changed a bit somehow
No one. But when you call that company Black Entertainment Television it becomes racist.
Black people can not have it both ways.
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Now you must be joking.
...............
Why would I be joking.
Black people would be up in arms if there was a TV Company called White Entertainment Television.
The police are often poorly trained and are jumpy due to the gun laws of US. They are on edge even when making the most routine of stops.
Add this to some cops holding negative racial stereotypes and a major problem arises.
This has been happening for decades. It's only now due to mobile video footage that it's become so apparent.
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 30 minutes ago
But you seem intent on disagreeing with me when im saying all lives matter...
You don't know as barley any are covered by news networks. Look at Dylan nobles killing the other day. Shot while hiding behind his car door.
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When have I said all lives do not matter. Yes it would be great if people, irrespective of race, did not get shot by the police.
You seem intent on ignoring the racial stereotyping that takes place leading to black people, who haven't taken part in criminality, being more likely to be shot.
Black people would be up in arms if there was a TV Company called White Entertainment Television.
---
I think you're kind of missing the point, there's no need to have 1 channel called white entertainment television when the majority of channels will cater to the majority of the population. Digby are you saying that BET is more to blame for the current situation than the systemic racism that the country was built on?
I think you're kind of missing the point, there's no need to have 1 channel called white entertainment television when the majority of channels will cater to the majority of the population
............
Clearly you are the one missing the point.
I will give you a big clue.
COLOUR.
I'd say programmes like COPS stoke racial tensions a lot more than a TV channel aimed at the black demographic.
You seem intent on ignoring the racial stereotyping that takes place leading to black people, who haven't taken part in criminality, being more likely to be shot.
------------
But surely if more whites are shot by police than any other race that makes them most likely to be shot?
Digby are you saying that BET is more to blame for the current situation than the systemic racism that the country was built on?
What is BET? I've never mentioned whatever it is
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 3 minutes ago
You seem intent on ignoring the racial stereotyping that takes place leading to black people, who haven't taken part in criminality, being more likely to be shot.
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But surely if more whites are shot by police than any other race that makes them most likely to be shot?
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How have you come to that conclusion?
"The Washington Post journalists also collect information about the race of those shot by police. According to Kindy, about half are white, and about half are from minorities, but adjusting for the size of the populations, Kindy says, "minorities are definitely being shot at a higher rate than whites".
"particularly noticeable in the case of the black population.
"Blacks are being shot at a rate that's 2.5 times higher than whites," Kindy says.
The big question is whether that is evidence that the police are discriminating against African Americans. There's an obvious argument that it is: African Americans are just 13% of the US population, and yet 26% of the people killed by the police"
So more whites being shot doesn't matter as much as more whites make up the population?
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
"Why do cops shoot white people?"
Practise.
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You've won this article.
American police serving and protecting again.
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 6 minutes ago
So more whites being shot doesn't matter as much as more whites make up the population?
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Arghhh no one has said that.
You are 2.5 times more likely to be shot be police if you are black. There appears to be a prevalent attitude that even if you are unarmed, not up to criminality and black you are going to get shot.
Clearly you are the one missing the point.
I will give you a big clue.
COLOUR
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That's the point, when you're the majority you don't have to clarify what is for you because its the perceived norm, when something falls outside of that's when they clarify. Is Punjab radio racist?
What is BET? I've never mentioned whatever it is
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You mentioned a TV channel aimed at certain demographic or at least I thought you did.
I mentioned the media only covering certain incidents. That's is the news. Not one channel.
Digby are you saying that BET is more to blame for the current situation than the systemic racism that the country was built on?
...................
Digby didn't say that. I did.
And no I am not saying that at all, as you would know if you were able to read and understand simple short words.
You mentioned a TV channel aimed at certain demographic or at least I thought you did.
.....................
And what is the name of that TV Channel.
You will get a point if you get this one correct.
VC
Does the Black Entertainment Channel contribute to racial tension?
It's a cultural TV channel, I imagine, catering to predominantly black people. But it doesn't exclude white people, or anyone of other ethnicities, from enjoying aspects of black culture. In fact it could be a good way of bridging the gap between races. Take Blaxploitation films for example;
"Blaxploitation or blacksploitation is an ethnic subgenre of the exploitation film. It emerged in the United States in the early 1970s. Blaxploitation films were originally made specifically for an urban black audience, but the genre's audience appeal soon broadened across racial and ethnic lines. The Los Angeles National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) head and ex-film publicist Junius Griffin coined the term, which is a portmanteau of the words "black" and "exploitation."
What has the Black Entertainment Channel got to do with racist police shooting black people?
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
VC
Does the Black Entertainment Channel contribute to racial tension?
..............
It has certainly peed off the white supremacist's.
Make of that what you want.
If I have time I will find something on this for you tomorrow. it was from a prominent well know black actor and he said the same thing. along the lines of ' we can't go around calling out racism when we have BET.
It might have been Halle Berry.
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posted on 21/7/16
But you seem intent on disagreeing with me when im saying all lives matter...
You don't know as barley any are covered by news networks. Look at Dylan nobles killing the other day. Shot while hiding behind his car door.
posted on 21/7/16
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 7 minutes ago
Who cares if a TV company wants to make TV programmes targeted to a particular section of society?
.................
No one. But when you call that company Black Entertainment Television it becomes racist.
Black people can not have it both ways.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now you must be joking.
posted on 21/7/16
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Just so that some of you numbnuts who have no idea about the USA other than what you see in the papers, here is a bit of perspective.
A lot of racism is not caused by white people. There is, for example, a TV channel called BET. This is Black Entertainment Channel.
Imagine what would happen if there was a White Entertainment Channel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is certainly some truth in this.
So called positive discrimination that is certainly quite widespread in places I have worked. This meant that women and minority groups were given preference for jobs and managers were encouraged to make sure they recruited from these groups. In order to recruit white males the managers had to complete 4 pages of justification and be interviewed about it so just recruited women and minorities so tey didnt have to. Careers were literally put on the line just by recruiting the best candidte if it was a white male.
The problem was everyone knew about it. There were dozens of the top performers who left because they were not getting promotions etc because they were whote males. I did as well from one place I worked after missing out on 2 senior roles which were given to women who did not have the knowledge and experience I did in the role and was directly told by the recruiting managers that the person who got the job did so because they were women even though I was the best candidate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What you describe is discrimination.
Positive discrimination is about giving under represented groups opportunity to interview for positions if they meet the minimum criteria.
Then it's on individual performance.
I'm sorry mate but you didn't get the jobs because It was decided that you weren't the best person for it. You were told what you wanted to hear or you made it up.
D
posted on 21/7/16
comment by Paul Robbga (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't see the problem with black people having their own channel.
Do people have a problem with Irish bars or Chinese restaurants.
As far as I'm aware white people are allowed to watch the channel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. The protests here are just laughable. It's the sort of thinking that led to a Blackboard becoming a Chalkboard.
posted on 21/7/16
It was about the news not reporting events not entire channels, its changed a bit somehow
posted on 21/7/16
No one. But when you call that company Black Entertainment Television it becomes racist.
Black people can not have it both ways.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now you must be joking.
...............
Why would I be joking.
Black people would be up in arms if there was a TV Company called White Entertainment Television.
posted on 21/7/16
The police are often poorly trained and are jumpy due to the gun laws of US. They are on edge even when making the most routine of stops.
Add this to some cops holding negative racial stereotypes and a major problem arises.
This has been happening for decades. It's only now due to mobile video footage that it's become so apparent.
posted on 21/7/16
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 30 minutes ago
But you seem intent on disagreeing with me when im saying all lives matter...
You don't know as barley any are covered by news networks. Look at Dylan nobles killing the other day. Shot while hiding behind his car door.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When have I said all lives do not matter. Yes it would be great if people, irrespective of race, did not get shot by the police.
You seem intent on ignoring the racial stereotyping that takes place leading to black people, who haven't taken part in criminality, being more likely to be shot.
posted on 21/7/16
Black people would be up in arms if there was a TV Company called White Entertainment Television.
---
I think you're kind of missing the point, there's no need to have 1 channel called white entertainment television when the majority of channels will cater to the majority of the population. Digby are you saying that BET is more to blame for the current situation than the systemic racism that the country was built on?
posted on 21/7/16
I think you're kind of missing the point, there's no need to have 1 channel called white entertainment television when the majority of channels will cater to the majority of the population
............
Clearly you are the one missing the point.
I will give you a big clue.
COLOUR.
posted on 21/7/16
I'd say programmes like COPS stoke racial tensions a lot more than a TV channel aimed at the black demographic.
posted on 21/7/16
You seem intent on ignoring the racial stereotyping that takes place leading to black people, who haven't taken part in criminality, being more likely to be shot.
------------
But surely if more whites are shot by police than any other race that makes them most likely to be shot?
posted on 21/7/16
Digby are you saying that BET is more to blame for the current situation than the systemic racism that the country was built on?
What is BET? I've never mentioned whatever it is
posted on 21/7/16
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 3 minutes ago
You seem intent on ignoring the racial stereotyping that takes place leading to black people, who haven't taken part in criminality, being more likely to be shot.
------------
But surely if more whites are shot by police than any other race that makes them most likely to be shot?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How have you come to that conclusion?
"The Washington Post journalists also collect information about the race of those shot by police. According to Kindy, about half are white, and about half are from minorities, but adjusting for the size of the populations, Kindy says, "minorities are definitely being shot at a higher rate than whites".
"particularly noticeable in the case of the black population.
"Blacks are being shot at a rate that's 2.5 times higher than whites," Kindy says.
The big question is whether that is evidence that the police are discriminating against African Americans. There's an obvious argument that it is: African Americans are just 13% of the US population, and yet 26% of the people killed by the police"
posted on 21/7/16
So more whites being shot doesn't matter as much as more whites make up the population?
posted on 21/7/16
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
"Why do cops shoot white people?"
Practise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You've won this article.
American police serving and protecting again.
posted on 21/7/16
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 6 minutes ago
So more whites being shot doesn't matter as much as more whites make up the population?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arghhh no one has said that.
You are 2.5 times more likely to be shot be police if you are black. There appears to be a prevalent attitude that even if you are unarmed, not up to criminality and black you are going to get shot.
posted on 21/7/16
Clearly you are the one missing the point.
I will give you a big clue.
COLOUR
---
That's the point, when you're the majority you don't have to clarify what is for you because its the perceived norm, when something falls outside of that's when they clarify. Is Punjab radio racist?
What is BET? I've never mentioned whatever it is
---
You mentioned a TV channel aimed at certain demographic or at least I thought you did.
posted on 21/7/16
I mentioned the media only covering certain incidents. That's is the news. Not one channel.
posted on 21/7/16
Digby are you saying that BET is more to blame for the current situation than the systemic racism that the country was built on?
...................
Digby didn't say that. I did.
And no I am not saying that at all, as you would know if you were able to read and understand simple short words.
posted on 21/7/16
You mentioned a TV channel aimed at certain demographic or at least I thought you did.
.....................
And what is the name of that TV Channel.
You will get a point if you get this one correct.
posted on 21/7/16
VC
Does the Black Entertainment Channel contribute to racial tension?
It's a cultural TV channel, I imagine, catering to predominantly black people. But it doesn't exclude white people, or anyone of other ethnicities, from enjoying aspects of black culture. In fact it could be a good way of bridging the gap between races. Take Blaxploitation films for example;
"Blaxploitation or blacksploitation is an ethnic subgenre of the exploitation film. It emerged in the United States in the early 1970s. Blaxploitation films were originally made specifically for an urban black audience, but the genre's audience appeal soon broadened across racial and ethnic lines. The Los Angeles National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) head and ex-film publicist Junius Griffin coined the term, which is a portmanteau of the words "black" and "exploitation."
posted on 21/7/16
What has the Black Entertainment Channel got to do with racist police shooting black people?
posted on 21/7/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
VC
Does the Black Entertainment Channel contribute to racial tension?
..............
It has certainly peed off the white supremacist's.
Make of that what you want.
If I have time I will find something on this for you tomorrow. it was from a prominent well know black actor and he said the same thing. along the lines of ' we can't go around calling out racism when we have BET.
It might have been Halle Berry.
posted on 21/7/16
So a she and not a he.
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