you never explained how me saying the media only really reporting on unarmed blacks being shot was causing increased anger and hate and attacks actually meant i called all blacks racist?

comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
And I asked him to clarify. Which he did. And I explained why I asked. End of.

VC, what I'm saying is that the woman's point about that name is irrelevant. BET, unlike the KKK for example (which doesn't have "white" in the title), doesn't seek to attack, endanger or otherwise be racist to white people does it? You do realise that sometimes black people are carted out to provide these views? I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that she's either Stacey Dash stupid or was told to tow a line.
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Stacey Dash is honestly one of the most stupid people in America.

She's just like those android racist biitches on Fox News who sit there and act like being a privileged white person is the only way to be

And the worst thing is that Stacey dash is black. Selling out massively

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 35 minutes ago
So a group of people have been mistreated for generations, used, abused and marginalised, have had their bodies used to enrich the lives of others without receiving compensation, live in a society that goes out of its way to treat them as second class citizens or worse... and when they say "actually, we'd like to create something that reflects our culture and speaks to who we are", THEY are the racists?!

This is what you're saying?

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not in any way, fully made up by yourself
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So what did this mean: "Because it raises racial tensions, gives people the idea its purley racism. Which leads to police being killed."?

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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 18 seconds ago
Never heard of Stacey Dash...
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Be glad...

comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 35 minutes ago
So a group of people have been mistreated for generations, used, abused and marginalised, have had their bodies used to enrich the lives of others without receiving compensation, live in a society that goes out of its way to treat them as second class citizens or worse... and when they say "actually, we'd like to create something that reflects our culture and speaks to who we are", THEY are the racists?!

This is what you're saying?

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not in any way, fully made up by yourself
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So what did this mean: "Because it raises racial tensions, gives people the idea its purley racism. Which leads to police being killed."?
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comment by Sir Digby (U6039)

posted 3 minutes ago

you never explained how me saying the media only really reporting on unarmed blacks being shot was causing increased anger and hate and attacks actually meant i called all blacks racist?

What line is that?

African Americans have been striving for racial equality for generations in the USA.

To me it seems a bit counter productive, even hypocritical if you are having groups know as League of Black Lawyers and Black Entertainment Television.

That is the point the woman was making. I happen to think it is valid.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 seconds ago
What line is that?

African Americans have been striving for racial equality for generations in the USA.

To me it seems a bit counter productive, even hypocritical if you are having groups know as League of Black Lawyers and Black Entertainment Television.

That is the point the woman was making. I happen to think it is valid.
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And I happen to think you and she are wrong. The fact that black people in the States are still striving for that equality is proof of that.

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 35 minutes ago
So a group of people have been mistreated for generations, used, abused and marginalised, have had their bodies used to enrich the lives of others without receiving compensation, live in a society that goes out of its way to treat them as second class citizens or worse... and when they say "actually, we'd like to create something that reflects our culture and speaks to who we are", THEY are the racists?!

This is what you're saying?

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not in any way, fully made up by yourself
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So what did this mean: "Because it raises racial tensions, gives people the idea its purley racism. Which leads to police being killed."?
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comment by Sir Digby (U6039)

posted 3 minutes ago

you never explained how me saying the media only really reporting on unarmed blacks being shot was causing increased anger and hate and attacks actually meant i called all blacks racist?

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I'm not sure if you can see where I asked a question. Take another look... it's right there. So you'll see I'm asking you to clarify something. Can you do that?

Someone (I forget) asked you: Who cares if a TV company wants to make TV programmes targeted to a particular section of society?

You replied: Because it raises racial tensions, gives people the idea its purley racism. Which leads to police being killed.

You see that bit... "...the idea that it's purely racism..."

So black people create black TV station. White people get irked. Think black people are racist.

You see where my question came from? Again... question.

I assumed we were still on my point about the media/news covering stories, at that point it had raised someone elses points on tv stations, people assumed they were the same.

I happen to think you are wrong too.

Black History Month was another thing she said. She believes it shouldn't be called Black History but American History because that is what it is part of.

I find no issues there either.

And in my question, NOWHERE did I say you were calling black people racist. Just FYI.

Why is her opinion on the situation more relevant than anyone else's on that matter? Because she supports your stance and she's black?
If I can paraphrase a white American on the other side of the argument is that equally as valid?

comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 40 seconds ago
And in my question, NOWHERE did I say you were calling black people racist. Just FYI.
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THEY are the racists?!

This is what you're saying?

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 22 seconds ago
I happen to think you are wrong too.

Black History Month was another thing she said. She believes it shouldn't be called Black History but American History because that is what it is part of.

I find no issues there either.
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Because American history fails to acknowledge the contribution of black people. Did you know for example that historical text books i.e. used to teach children in school refer to slaves as immigrants? Fvcking immigrants!! And you think that a system that rewrites history in that way will do justice to black people?

Whoever that woman is is stupid and is a puppet. The more you tell me about her and her comments, the clearer that is!

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 40 seconds ago
And in my question, NOWHERE did I say you were calling black people racist. Just FYI.
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THEY are the racists?!

This is what you're saying?


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What, you still can't see the question mark...?

so what was your point then?

you fully misunderstood mine

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 12 seconds ago
so what was your point then?

you fully misunderstood mine
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I don't see how I misunderstood yours. Please explain. As above, someone asked you a question about what the issue regarding the rise of black entertainment platforms and you gave some preposterous response that it would be perceived as those people being racist which would in turn lead to police being killed. So you're suggesting there is a direct correlation between black entertainment tv (or other) and police being killed.

"So by way of ensuring I understood what I read (you can imagine my incredulity at this point), I asked:
So a group of people have been mistreated for generations, used, abused and marginalised, have had their bodies used to enrich the lives of others without receiving compensation, live in a society that goes out of its way to treat them as second class citizens or worse... and when they say "actually, we'd like to create something that reflects our culture and speaks to who we are", THEY are the racists?!

This is what you're saying?"

Yet I misunderstood you?

Songs

Who do you think this woman is a puppet for?

You seem to be saying an awful lot but not actually anything of relevance.

don't see how I misunderstood yours. Please explain. As above, someone asked you a question about what the issue regarding the rise of black entertainment platforms and you gave some preposterous response that it would be perceived as those people being racist which would in turn lead to police being killed. So you're suggesting there is a direct correlation between black entertainment tv (or other) and police being killed.

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I was talking about the news channels only covering the stories of unarmed blacks being shot while there are a higher number (not % compared to the population, actual number) of other races also unarmed being shot. This leads to increased anger. I never mentioned entertainment channels. I was talking about the news.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Songs

Who do you think this woman is a puppet for?

You seem to be saying an awful lot but not actually anything of relevance.
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Really? What of no relevance have I said? That American history is biased against black people? That's not relevant?

That the use of the word black in the name of an entity that only seeks to provide entertainment to a group of people who felt they weren't catered for isn't racist (by comparison you have a racist organisation that doesn't have the word "white" in it)? That's not relevant?

That because this person is black it doesn't mean she's right? That's not relevant?

Typical arguing tactic. No actual rebuttal so you try and attack me instead.

I see you haven't even acknowledged user Godleebarne's question either. Here it is in case you missed it... "Why is her opinion on the situation more relevant than anyone else's on that matter? Because she supports your stance and she's black?
If I can paraphrase a white American on the other side of the argument is that equally as valid?"

Good luck with that. I'mma take my apparently irrelevant self to bed.

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
don't see how I misunderstood yours. Please explain. As above, someone asked you a question about what the issue regarding the rise of black entertainment platforms and you gave some preposterous response that it would be perceived as those people being racist which would in turn lead to police being killed. So you're suggesting there is a direct correlation between black entertainment tv (or other) and police being killed.

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I was talking about the news channels only covering the stories of unarmed blacks being shot while there are a higher number (not % compared to the population, actual number) of other races also unarmed being shot. This leads to increased anger. I never mentioned entertainment channels. I was talking about the news.
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That's not the question you answered. But hey, use the whole "oh I was talking about something else" defence when you clearly answered a direct question (even quoting the guy). Like VC, you can't even answer the question... typical.

Carry on then.

That's not the question you answered. But hey, use the whole "oh I was talking about something else" defence when you clearly answered a direct question (even quoting the guy). Like VC, you can't even answer the question... typical.

Carry on then.

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this was over 150 comments ago, that was where the conversation was at the time, good grief its not hard to understand, you came on here looking for an argument though anyway but ah well

oh wait i remember you were on that 4th of july thread and did this same sort of thing on there when i made 1 comment about native Americans