I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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We have a housing shortage and we build just under 150,000 homes a year, there's 300,000 extra people every year who need 150,000 homes to house them, but yeah immigration can't possibly have anything to do with it
"The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything"
How so? Surely that 40% of the vote should quit moaning and except the democratic will of the people no?
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
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Well Hungary is just to the right of Ghengis Khan.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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We have a housing shortage and we build just under 150,000 homes a year, there's 300,000 extra people every year who need 150,000 homes to house them, but yeah immigration can't possibly have anything to do with it
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We need to be building far more than 150,000pa. The reason for the housing shortage is predominantly to do with lack of building of social housing by successive governments and people being pushed into an increasingly competitive private rental market. This was exacerbated by those no longer being able to get on the property ladder, after 2008, also flocking to the private rental market.
As stated by Shelter in this article;
"https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/25/uk-housebuilding-new-homes-construction-high-2008"
"Shelter said housebuilding was still “nowhere near” the 250,000 new homes needed annually to tackle England’s housing shortage. Campbell Robb, chief executive of the homelessness charity, said: “Any rise in housebuilding is good news, but not good enough when we’re still only building a little over half the homes we need.”
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 minutes ago
I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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We have a housing shortage and we build just under 150,000 homes a year, there's 300,000 extra people every year who need 150,000 homes to house them, but yeah immigration can't possibly have anything to do with it
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Leaving the EU will not help the housing market.
Of the net 270k immigrants, over half are non- EU, a significant proportion are students.
Impossible to grow the economy and reduce migration. It's either one or the other.
Hence why the government will not commit to a particular number of migrants.
There are over 600k homes just sitting empty in the UK. Pretty criminal that, not sure why they don't just stick a huge tax on empty homes.
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
"The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything"
How so? Surely that 40% of the vote should quit moaning and except the democratic will of the people no?
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
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Who said they wouldn't but doesn't mean their opinions will change. There's never been as much anti EU sentiment around the whole of Europe and support for the EU project has never been weaker then it is now, is all I'm saying.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
"The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything"
How so? Surely that 40% of the vote should quit moaning and except the democratic will of the people no?
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
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Who said they wouldn't but doesn't mean their opinions will change. There's never been as much anti EU sentiment around the whole of Europe and support for the EU project has never been weaker then it is now, is all I'm saying.
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Have you got anything to quantify this apart from claims about two countries that just shied away from electing a far right representative?
Some actual info would be great.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 4 minutes ago
There are over 600k homes just sitting empty in the UK. Pretty criminal that, not sure why they don't just stick a huge tax on empty homes.
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Between second homes in the South West to properties in London only being occupied a couple a weeks a year is shocking.
MP's curtailing the building of social housing for their own ends is just as criminal.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/housing-network/2016/jan/14/mp-landlords-number-risen-quarter-last-parliament-housing-bill
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 7 minutes ago
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
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Well yes. However if government(s) maintained housing stock would we be in this situation?
Has there always been a housing shortage?
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 7 minutes ago
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
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Well yes. However if government(s) maintained housing stock would we be in this situation?
Has there always been a housing shortage?
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Didnt it begin with them letting people buy there council homes but not building new ones?
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 7 minutes ago
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
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Well yes. However if government(s) maintained housing stock would we be in this situation?
Has there always been a housing shortage?
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Didnt it begin with them letting people buy there council homes but not building new ones?
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Yep it was Right to Buy brought in by the Tories. All well and good aiding social mobility in such a way. Not replenishing the housing stock sold was shocking and led us to the situation we're in today.
Fairly typical short-term thinking, politics hasn't changed much since the 80s really. Spend too much and sell off public assets to plug the gap.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 25 minutes ago
it's not about what we want but what's really happening, the EU is struggling and only interested in its own survival right now. If it was successful and everything was going well then we wouldn't vote to leave in the first place, or eurosceptics wouldn't be doing so well elsewhere.
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I agree there’s certainly a perception that the EU is struggling but I haven’t seen anything substantive that backs this view up.
Whilst there has been an increase in anti-EU sentiment (in part aided by Russia) during electioneering in Europe, this has failed to materialise at the ballot box to date.
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That's just it WWSPD. We keep being told the EU is struggling but I'm yet to see evidence to back this up either. It's also funny how some cite the economic situations in Spain, Italy, Greece and Portugal (last I heard Portugal's economy is on the up) as proof the EU is struggling. The same people also cite the UK economy as prospering and this having nothing to with the EU.
The Dutch vote, plus the upcoming French election haven't/don't look like going down the anti EU path.
I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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it depends how you interpret it, the Dutch guy was a bit of a loon who apparenly had a 1 page manifesto, wanted to close all Mosques and ban the Koran... It wasn't an in/out referendum. He still came 2nd and pushed the right wing government further to the right and liberals here claimed victory
In French first round of voting anti EU parties got about 50% of the vote, the far left dude got 20% and wants out of the EU. Remainers think it's some kind of far right/liberal divide. If Le Pen loses is that a victory for the EU and liberals? The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything.
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Oh 8Bit, stop feckin read the daily mail please.
The Dutch actually had his worse results to date. Nowhere near to the past election.
In France, Macron is a completely unknown and untested but had clearly claimed that he is pro-euro and guess what, he is the leading candidate.
The far left candidate should have done much better than 20%, especially since the "conservative" party did so badly. Even so, those whom vote for him didn't just for to leave the Euro. it is very inacurate to just reduce to that. He had a full set of programme in geenral reform (economy, social care, etc...) which could have been attractive to some. To some extend, you might even ask yourself if he would have got more vote if he wasn't anti-euro.
ECJ today found the UK guilty of breaching EU clean water law, by allowing discharges of raw sewage in various locations across the country.
Can't wait to get rid of these bureaucrats, and their meddling environmental protections
The spanish have taken all the fish anyway so meh
Oh 8Bit, stop feckin read the daily mail please.
The Dutch actually had his worse results to date. Nowhere near to the past election.
In France, Macron is a completely unknown and untested but had clearly claimed that he is pro-euro and guess what, he is the leading candidate.
The far left candidate should have done much better than 20%, especially since the "conservative" party did so badly. Even so, those whom vote for him didn't just for to leave the Euro. it is very inacurate to just reduce to that. He had a full set of programme in geenral reform (economy, social care, etc...) which could have been attractive to some. To some extend, you might even ask yourself if he would have got more vote if he wasn't anti-euro.
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I don't read the daily mail, or any other paper
The Dutch loon had his best election so far btw. You said the other day you'd be surprised if Le Pen gets more than 30% but she's polling on about 40%, even if she has a narrow loss if National Front got that much of the vote it says something about the state of France. I don't know much about Macron so can't judge him. Anyway in those two elections the Labour/Socialist parties both got tanked which will probably happen here too.
So people keep reading that the EU isn't performing yet can't find the evidence to back it up.
It's available in the public domain that whilst all major trading blocks are seeing strong economic growth, the EU finds itself in the same position it was in 10 years prior.
There are five European nations whose debts are larger than their economic output, and 21 that have debts larger than the 60 per cent of GDP limit set out in the Maastricht Treaty.
The migration crisis will add huge strain to the public services and other existing problems and unemployment continues to be rife around the Med.
Key member states are having debates around membership as we speak.
Anyone who thinks that thr EU isn't struggling is burying their heads in the sand.
Brexitears wishing the EU fails are the same economic self-harmers that let their hearts rule their heads in our referendum, the EU, even in 2 years time will still be our biggest trade partners, what good will it do us if the EU dissolves into recrimination, protectionism and disturb the decades of peace and prosperity we've all enjoyed.
Macron has stated he wants reform, he'll get what Cameron didn't and the EU will move on without us.
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comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 58 minutes ago
So people keep reading that the EU isn't performing yet can't find the evidence to back it up.
It's available in the public domain that whilst all major trading blocks are seeing strong economic growth, the EU finds itself in the same position it was in 10 years prior.
There are five European nations whose debts are larger than their economic output, and 21 that have debts larger than the 60 per cent of GDP limit set out in the Maastricht Treaty.
The migration crisis will add huge strain to the public services and other existing problems and unemployment continues to be rife around the Med.
Key member states are having debates around membership as we speak.
Anyone who thinks that thr EU isn't struggling is burying their heads in the sand.
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Not sure how our leaving the EU, or the complete dissolution of the EU, solves any of those problems.
The EU will always be the UK’s largest trading partner. Simply because it’s geographically closest. To wish EU decline is essentially an act of self-harm.
Ironically as the UK leaves the EU, the Commission announced a series of wide ranging reform proposals. Which in turn will be put to the EU27 to decide how they would like the future of the bloc to be shaped. And will also give member states more flexibility (should they wish) in regard to some of the more stringent (four freedoms) Directives.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/white-paper-future-europe-reflections-and-scenarios-eu27_en
The Commission have also today announced proposals to introduce ‘location requirements.’ Directives for financial services sectors. Obviously a complete coincidence that most of these financial services are based in the UK and the announcement was made this week
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-1150_en.htm
Which, if agreed will require many UK financial services having to relocate back inside the SM, even if Brexit wasn’t a big enough motivation/requirement.
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
Some thoughts from the Goldman Sachs boss. I guess you can have your own interpretation of his views:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39812120
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And I'd say this is a very soft, media oriented message. It could be much different in the board room.
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posted on 4/5/17
I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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We have a housing shortage and we build just under 150,000 homes a year, there's 300,000 extra people every year who need 150,000 homes to house them, but yeah immigration can't possibly have anything to do with it
posted on 4/5/17
"The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything"
How so? Surely that 40% of the vote should quit moaning and except the democratic will of the people no?
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
posted on 4/5/17
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
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Well Hungary is just to the right of Ghengis Khan.
posted on 4/5/17
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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We have a housing shortage and we build just under 150,000 homes a year, there's 300,000 extra people every year who need 150,000 homes to house them, but yeah immigration can't possibly have anything to do with it
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We need to be building far more than 150,000pa. The reason for the housing shortage is predominantly to do with lack of building of social housing by successive governments and people being pushed into an increasingly competitive private rental market. This was exacerbated by those no longer being able to get on the property ladder, after 2008, also flocking to the private rental market.
As stated by Shelter in this article;
"https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/25/uk-housebuilding-new-homes-construction-high-2008"
"Shelter said housebuilding was still “nowhere near” the 250,000 new homes needed annually to tackle England’s housing shortage. Campbell Robb, chief executive of the homelessness charity, said: “Any rise in housebuilding is good news, but not good enough when we’re still only building a little over half the homes we need.”
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
posted on 4/5/17
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 minutes ago
I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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We have a housing shortage and we build just under 150,000 homes a year, there's 300,000 extra people every year who need 150,000 homes to house them, but yeah immigration can't possibly have anything to do with it
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Leaving the EU will not help the housing market.
Of the net 270k immigrants, over half are non- EU, a significant proportion are students.
Impossible to grow the economy and reduce migration. It's either one or the other.
Hence why the government will not commit to a particular number of migrants.
posted on 4/5/17
There are over 600k homes just sitting empty in the UK. Pretty criminal that, not sure why they don't just stick a huge tax on empty homes.
posted on 4/5/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
"The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything"
How so? Surely that 40% of the vote should quit moaning and except the democratic will of the people no?
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
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Who said they wouldn't but doesn't mean their opinions will change. There's never been as much anti EU sentiment around the whole of Europe and support for the EU project has never been weaker then it is now, is all I'm saying.
posted on 4/5/17
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
"The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything"
How so? Surely that 40% of the vote should quit moaning and except the democratic will of the people no?
So there's 2 of the 27 nations. What about the other 25?
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Who said they wouldn't but doesn't mean their opinions will change. There's never been as much anti EU sentiment around the whole of Europe and support for the EU project has never been weaker then it is now, is all I'm saying.
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Have you got anything to quantify this apart from claims about two countries that just shied away from electing a far right representative?
Some actual info would be great.
posted on 4/5/17
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 4 minutes ago
There are over 600k homes just sitting empty in the UK. Pretty criminal that, not sure why they don't just stick a huge tax on empty homes.
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Between second homes in the South West to properties in London only being occupied a couple a weeks a year is shocking.
MP's curtailing the building of social housing for their own ends is just as criminal.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/housing-network/2016/jan/14/mp-landlords-number-risen-quarter-last-parliament-housing-bill
posted on 4/5/17
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
posted on 4/5/17
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 7 minutes ago
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
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Well yes. However if government(s) maintained housing stock would we be in this situation?
Has there always been a housing shortage?
posted on 4/5/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 7 minutes ago
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
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Well yes. However if government(s) maintained housing stock would we be in this situation?
Has there always been a housing shortage?
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Didnt it begin with them letting people buy there council homes but not building new ones?
posted on 4/5/17
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 7 minutes ago
How has EU migration affected the social housing market? How many EU migrants occupy social housing?
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Whoever comes into our country has to be housed somewhere,in social or private,it must add to a housing shortage.so whats new there's always been a shortage.
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Well yes. However if government(s) maintained housing stock would we be in this situation?
Has there always been a housing shortage?
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Didnt it begin with them letting people buy there council homes but not building new ones?
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Yep it was Right to Buy brought in by the Tories. All well and good aiding social mobility in such a way. Not replenishing the housing stock sold was shocking and led us to the situation we're in today.
posted on 4/5/17
Bloody Thatcher. Again.
posted on 4/5/17
Fairly typical short-term thinking, politics hasn't changed much since the 80s really. Spend too much and sell off public assets to plug the gap.
posted on 4/5/17
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 25 minutes ago
it's not about what we want but what's really happening, the EU is struggling and only interested in its own survival right now. If it was successful and everything was going well then we wouldn't vote to leave in the first place, or eurosceptics wouldn't be doing so well elsewhere.
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I agree there’s certainly a perception that the EU is struggling but I haven’t seen anything substantive that backs this view up.
Whilst there has been an increase in anti-EU sentiment (in part aided by Russia) during electioneering in Europe, this has failed to materialise at the ballot box to date.
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That's just it WWSPD. We keep being told the EU is struggling but I'm yet to see evidence to back this up either. It's also funny how some cite the economic situations in Spain, Italy, Greece and Portugal (last I heard Portugal's economy is on the up) as proof the EU is struggling. The same people also cite the UK economy as prospering and this having nothing to with the EU.
The Dutch vote, plus the upcoming French election haven't/don't look like going down the anti EU path.
I'm still convinced our politicians have pulled the wool over the eyes of the voting public. It's easier to blamr the EU/immigrants for issues that should have beeb dealt with domestically, such as housing and infrastructure expansion.
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it depends how you interpret it, the Dutch guy was a bit of a loon who apparenly had a 1 page manifesto, wanted to close all Mosques and ban the Koran... It wasn't an in/out referendum. He still came 2nd and pushed the right wing government further to the right and liberals here claimed victory
In French first round of voting anti EU parties got about 50% of the vote, the far left dude got 20% and wants out of the EU. Remainers think it's some kind of far right/liberal divide. If Le Pen loses is that a victory for the EU and liberals? The National Front getting 40%+ of the vote should scare you more than anything.
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Oh 8Bit, stop feckin read the daily mail please.
The Dutch actually had his worse results to date. Nowhere near to the past election.
In France, Macron is a completely unknown and untested but had clearly claimed that he is pro-euro and guess what, he is the leading candidate.
The far left candidate should have done much better than 20%, especially since the "conservative" party did so badly. Even so, those whom vote for him didn't just for to leave the Euro. it is very inacurate to just reduce to that. He had a full set of programme in geenral reform (economy, social care, etc...) which could have been attractive to some. To some extend, you might even ask yourself if he would have got more vote if he wasn't anti-euro.
posted on 4/5/17
ECJ today found the UK guilty of breaching EU clean water law, by allowing discharges of raw sewage in various locations across the country.
Can't wait to get rid of these bureaucrats, and their meddling environmental protections
posted on 4/5/17
The spanish have taken all the fish anyway so meh
posted on 4/5/17
Oh 8Bit, stop feckin read the daily mail please.
The Dutch actually had his worse results to date. Nowhere near to the past election.
In France, Macron is a completely unknown and untested but had clearly claimed that he is pro-euro and guess what, he is the leading candidate.
The far left candidate should have done much better than 20%, especially since the "conservative" party did so badly. Even so, those whom vote for him didn't just for to leave the Euro. it is very inacurate to just reduce to that. He had a full set of programme in geenral reform (economy, social care, etc...) which could have been attractive to some. To some extend, you might even ask yourself if he would have got more vote if he wasn't anti-euro.
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I don't read the daily mail, or any other paper
The Dutch loon had his best election so far btw. You said the other day you'd be surprised if Le Pen gets more than 30% but she's polling on about 40%, even if she has a narrow loss if National Front got that much of the vote it says something about the state of France. I don't know much about Macron so can't judge him. Anyway in those two elections the Labour/Socialist parties both got tanked which will probably happen here too.
posted on 5/5/17
So people keep reading that the EU isn't performing yet can't find the evidence to back it up.
It's available in the public domain that whilst all major trading blocks are seeing strong economic growth, the EU finds itself in the same position it was in 10 years prior.
There are five European nations whose debts are larger than their economic output, and 21 that have debts larger than the 60 per cent of GDP limit set out in the Maastricht Treaty.
The migration crisis will add huge strain to the public services and other existing problems and unemployment continues to be rife around the Med.
Key member states are having debates around membership as we speak.
Anyone who thinks that thr EU isn't struggling is burying their heads in the sand.
posted on 5/5/17
Brexitears wishing the EU fails are the same economic self-harmers that let their hearts rule their heads in our referendum, the EU, even in 2 years time will still be our biggest trade partners, what good will it do us if the EU dissolves into recrimination, protectionism and disturb the decades of peace and prosperity we've all enjoyed.
Macron has stated he wants reform, he'll get what Cameron didn't and the EU will move on without us.
posted on 5/5/17
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posted on 5/5/17
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 58 minutes ago
So people keep reading that the EU isn't performing yet can't find the evidence to back it up.
It's available in the public domain that whilst all major trading blocks are seeing strong economic growth, the EU finds itself in the same position it was in 10 years prior.
There are five European nations whose debts are larger than their economic output, and 21 that have debts larger than the 60 per cent of GDP limit set out in the Maastricht Treaty.
The migration crisis will add huge strain to the public services and other existing problems and unemployment continues to be rife around the Med.
Key member states are having debates around membership as we speak.
Anyone who thinks that thr EU isn't struggling is burying their heads in the sand.
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Not sure how our leaving the EU, or the complete dissolution of the EU, solves any of those problems.
posted on 5/5/17
The EU will always be the UK’s largest trading partner. Simply because it’s geographically closest. To wish EU decline is essentially an act of self-harm.
Ironically as the UK leaves the EU, the Commission announced a series of wide ranging reform proposals. Which in turn will be put to the EU27 to decide how they would like the future of the bloc to be shaped. And will also give member states more flexibility (should they wish) in regard to some of the more stringent (four freedoms) Directives.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/white-paper-future-europe-reflections-and-scenarios-eu27_en
The Commission have also today announced proposals to introduce ‘location requirements.’ Directives for financial services sectors. Obviously a complete coincidence that most of these financial services are based in the UK and the announcement was made this week
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-1150_en.htm
Which, if agreed will require many UK financial services having to relocate back inside the SM, even if Brexit wasn’t a big enough motivation/requirement.
posted on 5/5/17
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
Some thoughts from the Goldman Sachs boss. I guess you can have your own interpretation of his views:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39812120
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And I'd say this is a very soft, media oriented message. It could be much different in the board room.
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