No need to be such a dramatist.

Think of your health

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Well this turned out well.

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Haven’t read all the comments on this thread so apologies if already mentioned.

Regardless of political persuasion (and EU viewpoint) the Tory’s are using Brexit as a vehicle to circumvent parliament. The Great Repel Bill will enshrine all EU statute into UK law. However parliament will not be consulted, nor briefed as to what parts of EU Law the Tory’s wish to retain (or not). It’s basically an executive ‘power grab’.

And this is democracy??

In reference to the economy while the Remain campaign (to their detriment) overplayed the consequences of leaving the EU, the evidence is now indisputable. We all will be considerably less off.

Erm

Vote for a different government in the future then.

One that you believe gives you what you want. Tories won't be in power forever.

I'm pleased you can see so far into the future though. I genuinely believe that the EU will eventually crumble. So much for what we "think" might happen eh?

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What?

Who is boasting about anything?

As for racist lies, they exist on both sides of the argument yet you flatly refuse to accept that people like me voted to leave for many other reasons than immigration don't you?

Yet here you are still with that same single argument because basically apart from the immediate market reactions you have no other argument.

I've previously explained my own reasons for my vote. You choosing not to accept any of those or at least discuss the point shows exactly who here is the narrow minded and bigoted one.

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Gingernuts

When the next general election is called, severance terms from the EU will have already been completed. There is no renegotiation regardless of government.

Ie if (as it now looks) the Torys take the UK out of the single market, that’s it. EU exports to the UK account account for around 2% of the bloc's trade.

The UK exports (including services) around 40%. To make clear the UK need the EU, more than the EU need the UK.

Have you seen the WTO tarriffs which the UK may have to apply join (as a non-EU member)?

So what did we learn from this article?

Joe public is stupid for exchanging money at airports and deserve to be ripped off.

The whole UK populace is intolerant, whether it be towards immigrants, brexiters, remainers or fans of football teams other than the one you support.

Nobody knows what will happen when we do actually leave the EU.

There are no fans on these boards who will be travelling abroad to follow their teams in Europe this season.

Everybody who has posted on this article regarding brexit believes their particular brand of bullѕhit and nobody is going to change that opinion no matter what proof is put in front of them.

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This :
So what did we learn from this article?

Joe public is stupid for exchanging money at airports and deserve to be ripped off.



The whole UK populace is intolerant, whether it be towards immigrants, brexiters, remainers or fans of football teams other than the one you support.

Nobody knows what will happen when we do actually leave the EU.

There are no fans on these boards who will be travelling abroad to follow their teams in Europe this season.

Everybody who has posted on this article regarding brexit believes their particular brand of bullѕhit and nobody is going to change that opinion no matter what proof is put in front of them.

Stuart. At last a sensible discussion.

Yes I have seen some of the suggested tariffs.

What we see now is political posturing from certain EU nations who themselves are being questioned and threatened in some instances by their own populace. There is a long way to go until anything is settled and in between now and then there is market and investment reaction.

Wordplay from the French in particular is certainly not helping our economic circumstances but I don't see the same level of anger and willingness to inflict "punishment" from any of the others bar the Eastern block led by Poland.

There will eventually be an agreement and everyone will want to trade. What that will be not one of us here knows. How can we when the whole of Europe doesn't even know?

I like many others hear and read so much yet all we have done is mention a date and then the posturing starts all over again. It is what it is. It's what I voted for and I will accept the pain that goes with it because I do believe that the EU is a busted flush and whilst a common market was a founding principle we should all be working towards, it has morphed into some giant mess of nations who couldn't agree on the colour of sheite when it come to it.

I'm actually for freedom of movement and believe we will have to give way on this to reach some common ground. The border issues are of our own making and it's our own government we should be pointing the finger at, not Europe.

Yet we now have a number of nations with right wing nutters challenging the easy go status quo across all of Europe. We have some counties erecting fences and no go areas along their borders and we have some countries who will never ever be able to trade out of their debt.

Sorry but in my view that will always lead to a break up any day of the week and I'd rather it was done over a ballot box than in any other way.

Only time will tell how it will all pan out but I'm not going to start looking for a long drop from a high stool because of market reactions that mean I pay more in the interim.

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"I hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime but I now feel that this country WILL be invaded probably by Russia or maybe even the French (with EU backing)."

What?

Invaded by the French with EU backing!!!!

Bloody hell.

All rational discussion has ended right here

Another figure plucked from the air by desperate remoaners. We get the message all 17 m who voted leave are racist and anyone who expresses an issue with freedom of movement must be a selfish bigot.
What it has shown post vote is how those that wanted to stay have no real love for Britain as they stay up all night praying for economic disaster to prove that the minority were right.
Regular threats from other European nations shows exactly what they thought of Britains inclusion anyway and the European Union has already failed many countries when 92 percent of funding goes to the wealthier nations. Delighted to have the chance to experience self governance,deportation of foreign criminals and a reduction in qualified coffee makers in favour of skilled workers who we still need.

Gingernuts

Agree with some of your points. The EU needs reform, no doubt.

The EU parliament’s desire to safeguard EU however far exceeds striking new trading relationships with the UK.

As you noted the rise in the far right; Le Penn et all, has reinforced the EU parliament’s self-preservation requirement. In short the EU will ensure Brexit will be as difficult divorce as possible. Anything else would ultimately be to their detriment (as a bloc).

Regretfully here in NI we are already seeing the implications of Brexit. Especially in regard to the boarder, and the Good Friday Agreement, (which was enshrined by way of EU statute).

The economic consequences aside, (NI’s Stormont executive rely on EU grants) the social damage could be severe. Given the recent announcements at the Tory PC it appears that NI is considered to be collateral damage.

Beaten to death with soft cheese and baguettes. There you go,have a little casual bigotry on me.